DL-44 Blaster Props ANH to ROTJ a Guide

[v312]

It’s so hard to make any real judgment on that Hoth mystery as the photos just aren’t clear enough and with what v312 put forward it makes it even more difficult to follow what PoSW said specifically.

Here’s a part though that I believe can be confirmed. With regards to the GK film prop specifically the weavers themselves come in 3 sizes. Small, medium and large. Most know the film used weavers where not the small ones but between the medium and large.. I haven’t heard anyone confirm which is actually the correct variant.

I personally believe it is the “tall” weavers and the reason is the tall weavers are the only ones with this part circled. You can also see the reflection of said part in the film itself. Thoughts?View attachment 1840751

These are the ones that I aslo think are the correct size. I just don't know if they are supposed to be "tall", "large/long" or "medium" as I've seen them listed as all of these and they were the same exact size. There's also exactly the same size, but without that feature that you have circled. Here's a better picture by the way:

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

I don’t think the “medium” size has that specific feature. Only the “tall/large” does from what I’ve seen.

 

[v312]

I don’t think the “medium” size has that specific feature. Only the “tall/large” does from what I’ve seen.

My point was that I've only seen 2 sizes regardless of how they were called - "low" on the left and .. not "low" the 2 on the right:

and from the not "low" that I've seen - some have that feature others don't, but they are otherwise exactly the same size.
Is the medium size you are talking about in between these 2 sizes?
Because the "low" one physically don't have the space for such a feature and although I've not seen one, if there's a size that's between these two sizes I'd bet it also won't have enough space for this feature just like you say.

 

[v312]

Here's another shot to show size and how much it sticks out.
Reference for the mount side of this blaster is scarce. I doubt will find anything truly definitive but I'll keep an eye out.
IMO the nipple is clear in the other two shots if you check the full res in Photoshop. There's definitely something in the center and the same proportion as the V8 piece.

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lonepigeon, I hope you don't see this like I'm personally attacking you ... in fact I do these experiments in hope I prove myself wrong in the process as I really like how it looks with that greeblie.
Actually, when I started building my DL-44 I was considering using it, because I've seen someone post a build with it that I liked ... I won't be surprised if it was the one chubsANDdoggers showed few posts ago, because his builds along with this thread were my main inspirations for starting building the DL-44s.

But when I started looking more into the details I figured it must be something smaller ...

Anyway, I didnt post comparisons with this particular picture before, but I've looked at it as well. It is a rare case that we have another picture from almost the same angle and we can see where the edge of the mount is and where's the screw head and also a little bit of where the disc is, so it can give us some idea about how thick is the greeblie:
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Below - first I tried to match the angle of the blaster and even that I overdid it a little , still the v8 greeblie sticks noticable further out. Then I tried to match how much the greeblie sticks out and compare the angles - as you can see, there's a big difference.

These are not too scientific as I can't match the angles nowhere as perfectly as I wish, but maybe it is intriguing enough for someone who can do these 3d overlays with software to try the same and come up with what the real thickness of the greeblie should be.

 

[lonepigeon]

My only way to test was to put it on my Luke Bespin DL-44 and it fits nice and looks the part right over the existing nut.
If it has to stack on top of the plate with screws it probably is too tall. Looks great when it's flush though.

 

[Galilei]

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My only way to test was to put it on my Luke Bespin DL-44 and it fits nice and looks the part right over the existing nut.
If it has to stack on top of the plate with screws it probably is too tall. Looks great when it's flush though

Nice!

 

[Media Man]

I'm working on a resin stunt and was curious what type of screw held the flash hider? Diameter and height? I'll be 3D printing the bull barrel and FH with a remixed design.

 

[scottjua]

It’s so hard to make any real judgment on that Hoth mystery as the photos just aren’t clear enough and with what v312 put forward it makes it even more difficult to follow what PoSW said specifically.

Here’s a part though that I believe can be confirmed. With regards to the GK film prop specifically the weavers themselves come in 3 sizes. Small, medium and large. Most know the film used weavers where not the small ones but between the medium and large.. I haven’t heard anyone confirm which is actually the correct variant.

I personally believe it is the “tall” weavers and the reason is the tall weavers are the only ones with this part circled. You can also see the reflection of said part in the film itself. Thoughts?View attachment 1840751

Long time ago, I had bought a bunch and also came up with the conclusion that it was the talls… or some variant… but when on the prop… it looks ridiculous on display with it so high in the air. Which was why I always opted for the lower or medium at most for my personal builds. The football style Chronicles versions also are weird since one is floating in air, not connected to anything on the MGC.

So goofy.

Also to be strictly screen accurate, I am pretty sure the under table scene close up… the flash hider was NOT on the GK. I have tried to holster it with the flash hider… not really happening. And even if you crammed it in… that’s not coming out smoothly and freely. So technically I believe a screen used GK wouldn’t have the flash hider either. So I always opted for creative license on how it should look because of how stupid it would look in strict screen guise.

Disclaimer… this is an ultra nerdy take on it. Nothing as gospel or serious. Just do what you like, but I find the tall rings make it look stupid. Hahaha. They were probably only used for practicality on drawing it for a single shot.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

All valid and everyone is fully entitled to their own opinion.. just not their own facts. Facts are the screen used weavers are the tall ones is all I was trying to point out. Once you know that they honestly don’t look so bad actually. Below is both the short and the tall..

Very similar to the Hoth blaster and the drawn on lines. Until one realizes that’s how it’s suppose to be it really does look silly. But after you understands the facts it starts to look really quite cool. Same can be said for this GK I think. But to each to their own as it should be..

 

[scarf man]

I did a major edit of the ANH Hero blurb. I think it flows better, and is a bit more broad.
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The upper receiver of the Mauser pistol was fitted with a bull barrel by film armorers Bapty & Co. for the film “The Naked Runner” 1967, staring Frank Sinatra. Other bull barreled Mauser C96 pistols show up from Bapty & Co. in various British film and telly productions in the subsequent years. Those same guns were later rented from Bapty by the production “The Star Wars” in 1976.

 

[scarf man]

This is a research thread, it’s off topic to showcase your builds, or your reviews of vendors.
I’ve added a notice to the first post to help curb this in future.
I don’t mean to be harsh, but I do not want this thread to become cluttered with beautiful pics of replica blasters, and the congratulatory posts that accompany them. Members come to this thread for reference, and research discussion.
Please post your own thread of your build or review, and keep this one on topic.

Edit: To add context, two such posts were removed by the staff this morning.

 

[Galilei]

Got the oil pump screen housing today, did some filing to make it fit over the screws.
Regarding the glue-clue, since this part is hollow there's nothing for the glue to hold on to and leave residue on the disc it covers. Maybe they used a resin cast?

 

[scarf man]

Galilei that looks plausible, thanks for bringing us back on topic.

 

[thd9791]

This is exactly why I made the cast that I did. I’m guessing they put JB Weld in the center and some epoxy around it and squashed the cast, with notches for the screws, down over it? Or a trimmed outside rim leaving a gap for paint to get in…

 

[Galilei]

This is exactly why I made the cast that I did. I’m guessing they put JB Weld in the center and some epoxy around it and squashed the cast, with notches for the screws, down over it? Or a trimmed outside rim leaving a gap for paint to get in…

When i got my oil pump part, and got it secured it sure looked like it was a good match.

Based on availability, usage of V8 Kit parts, usage of resin casted V8 parts
Unless a clear photo of the right side when the prop was used at Finse magically shows up, im sticking with the oil pump screen housing for now.

 

[3251bimmer]

Here is my result trying for the greeblie. I really like it and think it fits the build nicely.

I like this part as a candidate as it’s from the same kit that provides many greeblie parts for other blasters including the reverse side of this one. Additionally cutting and notching to fit around screws is something we know they did as the pistons are also notched on the reverse side and the motor/coil plate is chopped to bits

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

It looks nice for sure but it’s also very hard to overlook what v312 presently earlier is all. We are all so desperate to simply check off these mystery’s that facts and legit questions get overlooked. Let’s keep digging and see what turns up.

This page was posted on FB with some insight to say they “may” have the answer somewhere with their collection of photos. Hopefully it’s true and we get some answers sooner than later to these mysteries..

The Kurtz Joiner Archive: The Archive

 

[Galilei]

It looks nice for sure but it’s also very hard to overlook what v312 presently earlier is all. We are all so desperate to simply check off these mystery’s that facts and legit questions get overlooked. Let’s keep digging and see what turns up.

This page was posted on FB with some insight to say they “may” have the answer somewhere with their collection of photos. Hopefully it’s true and we get some answers sooner than later to these mysteries..

The Kurtz Joiner Archive: The Archive

Do not tell me ive spent 15USD on the wrong part now
However, i see your point.

 

[thd9791]

15 bucks?! Who the hell is charging that for a single part?!

Sigh, I need to get more silicone. I’m in the process of making a solid version with holes for screws as an experiment for myself, maybe ill make more

Even though it’s not confirmed.

 

[Halliwax]

15 bucks?! Who the hell is charging that for a single part?!

Sigh, I need to get more silicone. I’m in the process of making a solid version with holes for screws as an experiment for myself, maybe ill make more

Even though it’s not confirmed.

Have you ordered platinum silicone lately? Holy h3ll has it jumped in price.. and I have a commercial account with them.. still crazy prices