Lucasfilm is all used up. It's best years are behind it. George gave us the SW:OT and IJ:OT and it was all we needed.
Disney could sell Lucasfilm ?
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JediMichael
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LFL has probably peaked but it's a long way from worthless.
The SW universe alone, without using any of the OT characters, is probably worth more than most franchises if it was handled well.
But Disney is in no condition to handle anything right now. There isn't a franchise on earth that I would trust them not to screw up. They can't even remake their own past hits without botching them.
Cephus
Master Member
That's one of the biggest problems, as you said. These people think they're geniuses for playing in someone else's sandbox and of course, their crap doesn't smell. The original creators, though, they're just a bunch of old, sexist, racist, every-other-ist white men, whose job it is for these new "creatives" to utterly destroy everything that has come before, in favor of stories aimed at a "modern audience" that nobody wants to see. They are looking for an audience that simply doesn't exist, which is why all of these budget-bloated projects fail miserably at the box office. Of course it can't be their brilliant new stories! It has to be the audience!
Except the audience pays their bills. Sooner or later, they're going to have to figure that out.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
Who would realistically buy Lucasfilm? I'm not saying no one would but not too many could afford it and beyond that the inherent risk (given the state of the company) would be a massive deterrent.
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CopperRevan
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drusselmeyer
Master Member
So we would get a real Star Wars space program out of it if Musk bought it?
cbrant
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I'd rather never see another second of new Star Wars media than have this happen. He should focus on not running his most recent acquisition into the ground first.
CopperRevan
Master Member
it was completely a joke...He wouldn't give it a moments thought
CopperRevan
Master Member
maybe real XWings...just kidding..I was just joking. The point was being able to afford Lucasfilm.
CopperRevan
Master Member
"Make it so...Number 1"
If Bezos bought it, he would then figure out a way to get another taxpayer funded agency (just like his contract with the US Postal Service) to do all the work for less than cost. Under budget but completely cr@p while delivered years too late if not lost in transit altogether.
ziddersroofurry
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What a dumb rumor.
CopperRevan
Master Member
I often wonder about where this hypothetical audience exists? If you buy a company because you want the business and massive profit it generates it would be smart to actually understand the brands it controls by hiring the right people to manage it. It also helps when you understand the audience you're making this content for, which they clearly don't.
If they honestly think they have that spark of creativity the way George did, then it's no shock that they think they can create an audience who will happily consume whatever they make. There's clearly a mental disconnect though. No successful business continues to make products no one asks for. The market and demand for certain products is what drives sales. This isn't a small start up company testing the waters with a new invention. This is a multi billion dollar company that's been in existence for 100 years. Literally 100. Walt was a visionary. Iger and the rest aren't.
Maybe because George was able to fund all of his own projects after the success of Star Wars, Disney/Lucasfilm assumes given their finances that it would be next to impossible to fail. Say what you will about George as an artist but as a business man the guy's a genius and managed to continually keep his brand financially viable for decades off of only a handful of films.
Isn't it business 101 that if you make a good product the buyers will come? Clearly George had something Disney lacks.
Vision.
For all of the company's bragging about which director, writer, producer, actor they hire, I have yet to see anyone in a leadership position within Lucasfilm that has an ounce of vision. After over a decade under their ownership, look at the state of things. It's pathetic.
Cephus
Master Member
These failed projects are riding on the multi-billion bank accounts that Disney already has. Those accounts are being drained. Even their parks aren't making the money they used to. They've had flop after flop after flop. Their streaming service has been hemorrhaging money forever. They can ride that wave for a while, but not forever. Something is going to have to give and I think that's happening as we speak. It's why Marvel is slowing their production way down. It's why all of Disney's movies just got pushed back. It's not the writer's strike, after all, Avatar 3 is already done, it was filmed concurrently with the second one, but they are pushing that back multiple years. Still, they're not learning anything from their mistakes. Little Mermaid tanked at the box office, but they're still making an animated version for Disney+. I'm sure that will do just as well.
I just had an argument with an idiot who said that because Dr. Strange 2 made money, therefore it proved that Marvel was on the right track. It was one of the few phase 4 movies that made money and it still vastly underperformed at the box office vs. industry expectations. It made money, but not as much as everyone thought it would and whatever profit it brought in, that wasn't nearly enough to make up for all the losses of the other phase 4 movies. You can't make sound business decisions based on "occasionally, we might make something." Sooner or later, Disney's stockholders are going to revolt. I'm one of them.
I just had an argument with an idiot who said that because Dr. Strange 2 made money, therefore it proved that Marvel was on the right track. It was one of the few phase 4 movies that made money and it still vastly underperformed at the box office vs. industry expectations. It made money, but not as much as everyone thought it would and whatever profit it brought in, that wasn't nearly enough to make up for all the losses of the other phase 4 movies. You can't make sound business decisions based on "occasionally, we might make something." Sooner or later, Disney's stockholders are going to revolt. I'm one of them.
This does not look like a man who is even remotely interested in having anything to do with Lucasfilm, right now…
Only reason GL would buy it back is if his children want it back. I can't wait to go to his museum though, that thing looks amazing.
And the PT. And holiday special. And two ewok movies… brilliantly made masterpieces.
Chef’s kiss.
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