Blade Runner revisited: Deckard's lamps

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  1. Prop Runner

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    Hey guys.

    Thought I'd take a break from my adventures surrounding the Han Solo blaster and Obi Wan saber discoveries and revisit MY favorite movie of all time: BLADE RUNNER.

    A few months ago, our tireless Blade Runner archeologist and researcher, Nick Daring, graciously shared with us his latest (public) discovery: the art-deco Dazor "Flying Saucer" lamp that rested on Deckard's piano and against which his sepia-tone family photos and sheet music were leaning. This is the lamp that provides such warm, fuzzy light to the intimate scene where Deckard first makes a pass at Rachel.

    Well, I went ahead and hit eBay until I finally found a terrific specimen with the correct vertical stand, and my friends, it's a thing of beauty... :D Practically in MINT condition, and the saucer-arm linkage simply uses cantilever friction to remain at whatever height on the post that I set it to - the nylon bearing in the linkage has a slightly oversized inner diameter, thus allowing some forward tilt that permits the post to capture it.

    Here is the lamp as seen in the movie and below it is the one I just received, with a sample of my other BR found-item props and replicas that I've accumulated over the years:

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    The saucer section (sorry, Trek fans - don't know what else to call it ;) ) flips upside down so I have the option of diffused or direct light. The metal section has a removable pinhole grating that allows replacement of the 60-watt bulb, and the other side is an opaque spun-fiberglass diffuser that has yellowed slightly with age but still gives off a wonderful natural warm yellow-orange glow:

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    Now that I have this lamp, I got an urge to see what other lighting Deckard had in his dark, smokey apartment. I was amazed to have found no less than 8 additional models that appear to be found items. I've positively identified one, as you will see below:

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    I can't tell if #2 is a floor-standing Torchiere or a table-top Torchiere with some sort of illuminated 4-sided base.

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    #3's a monster: 4 wrought iron legs and most definitely art-deco.

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    #4 appears to be an executive desk lamp of some sort.

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    #5 could have been custom-made for the film, but they remind me alot of 60's style minimalistic Italian design. They might even be mounted upside down.

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    If I didn't know any better, I'd say #6 look like they're mounted to a headboard of a bed - otherwise, why would there be two?

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    #7 is likely another 50's or 60's vintage desk lamp.

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    #8 is the only Deckard lamp I've been able to positively ID so far (I haven't really tried with the others yet, but searching for "saturn lamp" paid off on the first try (a real no-brainer - but after sifting first through dozens of GM Saturn tail light assemblies :lol ) Frikkin EXPENSIVE though, but thankfully not too rare...

    And finally...

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    #9 leaves me scratching my head. It's either custom-made for the set, or it's some kind of funky light-art statue that I'd guess is psychadelic 60's era or possibly 30's art-deco. Reminds me a lot of those cheasy alien computer monitors seen in the TOS Trek episodes... :lol Good frakkin luck to me and anyone else IDing this one. :p

    Well, there you have it, Blade Runner fans. Deckard's pad had no less than 9 lamps, one-third of which were never on during the movie. There's one recessed lamp built into a Frank Lloyd wright tile alcove, and another one above the sink in the kitchen, but that was obviously part of the set design or built into the range hood (stove ventilator). I didn't bother with the bathroom light. ;)

    I'd be grateful if anyone could help ID lamps 2,3,4,5,6,7, and 9, and feel free to discuss this and any other Blade Runner set pieces, like this little bronze chicken:

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    Hopefully Nick can get his pics restored to the wonderful Blade Runner "Web of Props" thread and the two can then be merged and archived.

    Thanks a million candlight power to Whackychimp for hosting these enlightening pics. :D :thumbsup

    - Gabe
     
  2. mgoob

    mgoob Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Pretty cool.

    Laying the props out unde the lamp adds to the display,
    and to any visitors who ask, they get a heck of a story.


    I wouldn't even know what search words to use to find that,
    so Kudos to you.


    And I'd agree that Lamp 8 is the one you have pictured.
     
  3. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    This thread is very illuminating... ;)

    Seriously though I am going to have to start hunting for the 'Saucer' lamp next year as I really like it.

    Thanks Gabe for shedding some light on a new and fascinating subject. :D
     
  4. Prop Runner

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    I'm unworthy of, yet de-LIGHT-ed by your praise... :D

    - Gabe
     
  5. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Nonsense my good Man. You are a Beacon of Info. :)
     
  6. TheRealMcFly

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    I think I spotted on of these lamps in Ghostbusters the other night... I will try to get some screen grabs.
     
  7. nick daring

    nick daring Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    The Saturn Lamp is actually reproduced by a guy but in the wrong color scheme. A google search finds it pretty quick and believe I have the link in the WebO Props Thread.

    Lamp 7 on your list is one I found a while ago and was gonna be my next reveal.

    It's a saucer lamp made by a lighting company called Lightolier.

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    Here you can see they used the head in a floor model as well as a desk version.

    I've only seen a couple go up on Ebay and wasn't willing throw the 100 buckarros to pick it up. It only shows up at the end for a couple shots.

    However, I've always wanted to spend a little time and figure out Lamp 3. It's a really nice looking lamp and prominently featured in the film.

    Good hunting. It's nice to have help and not to many people care about this stuff to drive up prices (other than true Art Deco collectors who have DEEP pockets).

    I have a couple more reveals left but I'm running out quick. Not much left in this movie to figure out. I do however need help with a couple objects that I haven't been able to make head or tails of. I'll try to post about those at some point in the future.

    Nick
     
  8. nick daring

    nick daring Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Oh yeah, I've looked for the Bronze/brass Rooster/Chickens before as well.

    Boy there are a lot of Bronze/brass Rooster/Chickens to sift through on ebay. Never found the right one. I sculpted one that has made my little brain happy though for the time being. I figure I'll just probably run across it one day perhaps.

    Nick
     
  9. Lamb of Zod

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    Nice lamp, Gabe.

    What kind of blaster is that in the holster?

    I recently picked up one of Coyle's Metal BR Blasters and was thinking about getting that holster for it.
     
  10. Jayn

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    Nice find on the lamp.. I've got a few nice metal shade deco's, but none that match. Maybe that's not a chicken but Vaucanson's duck. Where did you get your "precious photos" Are they under the paper prop thread??
    BR fan,
    Jayn
     
  11. Scott

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    The two specimens marked Lamp 6 remind me of Japanese paper lanterns... they don't actually look like they're a part of the bed, but as if they're hanging from the overhang on the top of the bed post...
     
  12. Killdozer

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    Great thread. Now I have something new to look for... :D

    Meanwhile.. what do you think?

    KD
     
  13. Prop Runner

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    KD, you're having a pretty * good week, mate. :D

    Thanks for the heads up on the duck.

    Nick - great find on the reading lamp and thanks for gracing my thread with it. :) Which other saucer-lamp are you refering to that you discovered - the floor lamp with 4 posts, or the torchiere agaisnt the wall behind Rachel?

    - Gabe
     
  14. nick daring

    nick daring Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    SONOVA... GAWL DANGIT... A Freakin DUCK....

    sigh...

    Thanks Killdozer and Jayn for the duck lead.




    Rassin frassin Duck.


    Nick

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    Oh yeah, I only found the Lightolier Lamp. Typo/bad wording has been fixed.
     
  15. Prop Runner

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    The photos were offered regularly a few years ago on eBay by a BR fan/graphic artist by the name of Ben Mund - not a member of this forum. Not sure why he stopped selling. He also offered Deckard's sepia-tone family photos, various Deckard wallet items (ID, vid-phon, apartment key, future cash, etc. - all fantasy, or at least none of it screen accurate), various decals, patches, license plates, and fantasy replicant dosiers. I sent out an e-mail to his last known address and hopefully he's still around. If he's still dealing in BR ware, I'll post his contact info. If anyone would like to have PDF files of his old catalog, please PM me with your e-mail address.

    Oh, and since the duck is out of the bag, and surely by now some of you have scoured eBay and found a few of these, I'd appreciate if everybody lets KD post what they are exactly - they have a rather unique background, to say the least. :) Also, if it's not too much to ask, please don't bid over someone who's an RPF member, whether it's on the ducks or one of the lamps. There seem to be plenty of these to go around, and if you missed out once, excellent chances are you'll see it again. My lamp, for instance, ended in zero bids, and the seller was kind enough to sell it to me for the original starting bid rather than relist it. Since then I've seen 3 others of the exact same model, all in excellent condition. If your eBay ID doesn't match your RPF handle (mine does), consider posting it here to alert others. I really hope common courtesy prevails if people plan on acquiring these. I guess I'm asking a personal favor from everybody in the Blade Runner Brotherhood, and I'd be grateful if you honor my request. If not for my sake, ask yourselves:

    "What would Deckard do?" :lol

    Thanks,

    - Gabe
     
  16. Killdozer

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    Yeah, a duck. :)

    Just looking at the screencap and the overall shape and posture (and the bill) told me that much. Every once in a while, I look on eBay for those little goose- or swan-neck items in Ben Kenobi's hut, so I knew they have a metalware>animals category. Well, the ducks weren't there, but they weren't far off. "Bronze duck" gives you what you want.

    And they're not uncommon, apparently, but they come in different sizes, and they're genuine antiques, so 1) they may be expensive, depending on size, condition and rarity and 2) they are handmade, and from different countries and foundries, so no two are going to be the same.

    So what are they?

    The duck is proabably 18th 19th C. They all have different markings on the side of the bases (stars, birds, etc), and different postures. The smaller ones would not have a space between the legs. Unfortunately, they are classified in ancient weight terms, so unless you know your tical from your viss, I think you'd have to see one in person to know.

    The good news is that these ones appear to come pretty cheap. Check Google, lads. You'll find what you want.

    My work here is done. B)

    KD
     
  17. DrStranglove

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    Great thread.
     
  18. Jayn

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    Thanks for the info on the photos. I'd LOVE to get my hands on them. (I still refer to my own pics as "precious photos" : ) ) As for the duck, I should've known it was a weight. (I have a lion & an elephant) The duck symbolism is relevant to that set. Google Vaucanson. A duck was one of the very first
    "replicants".
    Jayn
     
  19. Prop Runner

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    No sweat - I hope Old Ben is still alive...

    Maybe I should rename the thread "Deckard's Duck," seeing the direction it's going in. ;) Seriously though, in the name of Nexus, please dedicate every spare minute not spent working, driving, answering nature's call, or providing the bare minimum of attention to your families or significant other, and make an all-out effort to ID the remaining 6 lamps...

    Now with the weekend at hand, you have no excuse to procrastinate, so hop to it, little people. :D

    - Gabe
     
  20. Prop Runner

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    *BUMP*

    Also see the new thread, which this one inspired:

    http://www.therpf.com/index.php?showtopic=103021

    They're different topics, which is why I didn't continue here - let's keep this one focused on the lamps.

    (no luck finding any of the unidentified ones yet... :( )

    - Gabe
     
  21. confusion

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    Wow. What a great lamp. what color is the "saucer" section? I'm going to have to get seach ebay for one.
     
  22. Prop Runner

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    It's a trademark bronze-brown metallic paint that's almost automotive quality. Most vintage Dazor rectangular-head drafting lamps also were this color. But I've seen this particular model also come in black, white, and gray. Mine is the correct screen-used color.

    Best key words to use in an eBay search:
    • Dazor lamp
    • flying saucer lamp
    • art deco lamp
    • retro lamp
    • Eames Era lamp
    • Eames lamp
    If you get too many hits, narrow it down by adding "table" and "desk" before lamp, but I wouldn't do that for automatic searches, as you might miss one if the seller isn't that specific in his title or description.

    Hope this helps. :)

    - Gabe
     
  23. tk421mv7

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    Have you seen the one that was on ebay (search completed items) that's a ...err...lovely... salmon pink? Wow, I'd hate to see the room *that* would fit in. :eek
     
  24. Prop Runner

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    Yes... I did, and I hit the [​IMG] tab as fast as I could. :lol

    Still, would have made a great project if one wanted to repaint it...

    - Gabe
     
  25. Apollo

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    Just want to say thanks Gabe for getting me started on another obsession.

    I have two now and I want to start collecting all types of Dazors.

    Thanks Gabe..
     
  26. Apollo

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    I just finished watching "Miami Vice, Season 2", and lo and behold there were TWO Salmon Pink dazors on the nightstands of some drug lords bedroom. :lol
     
  27. Jedirick

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    This is a rare virtual at the interior of the Ennis Brown house. Seems they are very guarded about pictures of the interior and save it for tours.
    I suspect that some of the lights, like #6 may belong to the home itself. The woodwork upon which they seem to be mounted seems in tone with other found in the home.

    http://www.world-heritage-tour.org/virtual...diningRoom.html


    http://www.world-heritage-tour.org/virtual...livingRoom.html

    http://www.world-heritage-tour.org/virtual...e/corridor.html

    http://www.world-heritage-tour.org/virtual...use/bridge.html


    http://www.world-heritage-tour.org/virtual...e/overview.html
     
  28. mez7

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    i had the same thought the second i saw them :p
     
  29. Prop Runner

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    Rick, your first two links aren't working.

    Great panoramics, by the way - I'd love seeing the house again when they resume tours. :)

    I wasn't aware that any scenes were shot in the actual Ennis Brown house - are you certain of this? I believe I read that the tiles were cast up enough times to create the interior of Deckard's apartment.

    - Gabe
     
  30. Jedirick

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    Fixed the links.

    I'm zero qualified as to where scenes were shot. I know I have read at least one claim where the home was used but that could be someones assumption based on the tiles alone. IIRC the main part of the article was devoted to Wright architecture and mentioned a number of film locations using his work.

    But I love the house. :D
     
  31. phase pistol

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    You know, if Deckard would just use higher-wattage bulbs, he wouldn't need so many useless DIM lamps.

    - k
     
  32. nick daring

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    The exteriors were shot on location. The interiors were on a sound stage.

    Nick
     
  33. Jedirick

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    [​IMG]

    #9 leaves me scratching my head. It's either custom-made for the set, or it's some kind of funky light-art statue that I'd guess is psychadelic 60's era or possibly 30's art-deco. Reminds me a lot of those cheasy alien computer monitors seen in the TOS Trek episodes... :lol Good frakkin luck to me and anyone else IDing this one. :p

    At first I thought it might be a mica shaded light or sliced polished agate or even stained glass. Then realized that she is being reflected on the surface. So is it a shiny reflective part of the lamp or some other item that is simply reflecting light and her image and not a lamp at all?

    Also willing to bet the desk lamp is a Dazor.
     
  34. Jedirick

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