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Deprecated Blade Runner 2049 - K's blaster....in Metal (Seller Banned)
- Thread starter brandomack
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I have messaged people on the list and had no reply? Maybe they have given up looking on the forum or just can't be bothered with this anymore. I asked Brandomack about the amount of blasters he had to build and he told me 70! That list of people waiting for a refund is not real. That's just what he put up. I am owed my $300 deposit. Just lucky i didn't give the thief the full amount!
Lot's have moved on of course- it has been over 6 years.. I would say that if there are less than 20-30 people who have paid the full amount (and have retained the documentation to prove it) then it probably isn't going to be feasible or advisable to pursue any kind of litigation. There are statutes of limitation also. I don't know the laws of Canada on these things, but if this was all in the US it would need to be at least $15,000. If not, then small claims court which can issue a judgement which can be put on a person's credit report, but I don't think carries any real enforcement opportunity.
I know this doesn't help much, but his files are available for free to make 3d prints: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5541085
pnag
Sr Member
I'd have loved the metal one I paid for, though. 600 dollars is not an easy loss to absorb when I have nothing to show for it.
Landocycle
New Member
I hear you. $600 is a lot of money to lose for worthless files. I call them worthless files because if they did not even work for the person who created them...what was the point of posting them? I mean...it looks like the electrical componants were a complete and utter failure. He posted apparently about tossing his moulds and parts for the units which goes to show this fellow is completely low skill with questionable I.Q.
that matches his lack of integrity. Sad to see people taken advantage of the way this fellow did. I notice that a lot of people were conned by a fellow named Curtis on here. Brandomack talks a lot of smack about him. Leads one to believe that perhaps Curtis and Brandomack worked together at times to fraud people. They certainly had a connection.
enterprise0216
Sr Member
Found this as well…
The Canadian law statute for fraud is Section 380 of the Criminal Code of Canada:
The Canadian law statute for fraud is Section 380 of the Criminal Code of Canada:
- Fraud over $5,000
This is an indictable offense, which is a more serious criminal offense. The maximum penalty is 14 years in prison.
- Fraud under $5,000
This is also an indictable offense, with a maximum penalty of 2 years in prison.
Fraud is defined as using deceit, falsehood, or other fraudulent means to defraud the public or a person of money, property, or services. Some examples of fraud include:
- Medical fraud, which is making false claims or producing fake receipts to get unearned medical benefits
- Insurance fraud, which includes knowingly lying on an insurance application or claim
Factors that can increase the penalty for fraud include:
- The complexity of the fraud's planning
- The number of people affected
- The impact on the victims' finances, age, or health
- Whether the offender was qualified or licensed to take the actions
- Whether the offender destroyed or concealed evidence
First-time offenders for minor fraud may be eligible for alternative measures programs, which may include: Compensating the victims for losses and damages, Apologizing to the victims, and Performing community service.
If we take only the list in the opening post of this thread (23 people still waiting for a refund) and multiply it by just the depost of $300, you have a total of $ 6.900. But as mentioned above, I think the total will be MUCH higher!
If we take the 70 blasters he needed to make. Let's say 10 people were refunded already? This makes 60 people waiting for refunds. Let's say 20 of those payed in full. Then we are talking about 20 x 600 + 40 x 300 = $ 24.000. Don't know about you guys, but I have to work half a year for this kind of money...
If we take the 70 blasters he needed to make. Let's say 10 people were refunded already? This makes 60 people waiting for refunds. Let's say 20 of those payed in full. Then we are talking about 20 x 600 + 40 x 300 = $ 24.000. Don't know about you guys, but I have to work half a year for this kind of money...
I don't think a claim of Fraud would prevail. There was enough evidence on the thread of intent to follow through on creating the blasters, with posts showing purchasing of the pewter ingots, modeling clay, videos showing the molds being created, parts getting casted, etc. If he created a post and showed renderings of a blaster and descriptions of what all it was going to be as a final product, took deposits and didn't show any good faith effort to actually move forward in any capacity, then yes, that is true fraud. I'm not a lawyer but work with enough of them lol.
Landocycle
New Member
Assuming the images he put forward are his. With zero finished blasters...anyone can post images and files. Unless people confirm the files created a working blaster...they are simply just fodder. The fraud is not simply in the non completion of the product. The fraud is in manipulation of customers...giving false impressions of dates and deadlines....ignoring customer messages and dropping off the thread altogether. That is the definition of FRAUD. However, because he extended the refund process himself...he put it in writing which puts it 100% on him. File reports with Maple Ridge BC , Canada RCMP Police as well as contact PayPal to report the fraud of Brandon Scott Mackay.
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The images are definitely his- they are videos and comments on the forum after viewing these were positive and encouraging. He is talking into the camera I believe as well. Definitely not fodder. Again I don't think this counts as 'fraud' per say. Additionally, any court would likely say there was a remedy available in the form of PayPal Buyer Protection- so his attorney could argue contributory negligence on behalf of the buyers that they did not utilize the mechanism that was provided to prevent this problem, etc.
Landocycle
New Member
Just as equally one could argue that the images, videos and comments you mention(with HIM talking into the camera) were used to mislead his customer base into a continuous stream of time extensions. These time extensions falsely gave customers the impression their props were in the process of being built when OBVIOUSLY they were not. It also seems he insulted customers when they called him out or were smart enough to not trust him. The ones who called him out were ABSOLUTELY RIGHT to do so. Brandomack without a doubt delayed customers who on good faith gave him time and then he blew them all off completely. That is both FRAUD and FODDER !!! I would not be suprised at all if Brandon Scott Mackay had shadow accounts on the RPF that he uses to still weigh in on matters and defend himself while posing as someone else. Seems like something a fraudster would do.
Aldringham
Active Member
Still waiting on my deposit to be refunded for what it’s worth. After this experience I don’t check in very often. In the past I’ve bought stuff that was for sale on RPF and everyone was solid, but I won’t back projects up front anymore.
Landocycle
New Member
I would call Paypal and still ask them to honour his extended refund. At the very least have Paypal launch an investigation into Brandon Scott Mackay. The more customers that do this will be taken more seriously i am sure.
Landocycle
New Member
Apparently gnomebody has done it yet. Perhaps filing the police report might be worth it, especially since this thread proves all of it.
I have the impression that there is a lot of conversation here in this thread, but no real action is taken (no police report, no contact with paypal, etc...). I can only say that talking here will not do anything! Time for someone to actually take action. Since I'm refunded in full, I can not do any of this. Otherwise I would have called PayPal for sure already!
So come one, guys: take some actual action here!
So come one, guys: take some actual action here!
Have you actually reviewed the whole posting and the videos in question? By your response, it is clear you have not. Videos showing actual production of blaster parts were way before 'time extensions' were in play - they were all in the concise timeframe after the start of the run and consistent with what other makers do on this forum when offering a run, etc. You've been a member for a few weeks so why don't you review the entire thread? I agree with TomVDJ that no action will be taken to right the wrongs. I luckily got refunded my money, but the others who have not have a huge hill to climb, not to mention these transactions are fast approaching SEVEN years ago?? I think the ones that lost their money have largely moved on. Perhaps this thread should just be closed so the rest of us can too lol.
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