ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

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The sight slide lock looks to be there in the side view I posted. Locked forward and raised.

Rubber likely seeped in the channel and jammed it up. They had to disassemble to clean it out. Could have lost the parts...

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I believe the Merr Sonn was cast prior to the scope mount being added because there is no evidence of it on the stamping. Either that or it was a different grip frame.
 
I believe the Merr Sonn was cast prior to the scope mount being added because there is no evidence of it on the stamping. Either that or it was a different grip frame.
The MerrSonn seems to have been cast with the Naked Runner lower frame with the twin left side scope mount. After casting they must have cut off the scope mounting lugs and added the front pulley/ disk. Can see the cut off rear.

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If you ever ever tried to remove the slide and button, it’s not so easy to do. If for some reason they did, the spring for the button itself could easily have shot out and gotten lost, meaning when depressed it would stay depressed. The far side would still look like it was in place by looking in the notch/guide. Just a thought.

Mine is on the wrong side and I need to flip it. Not fun. As you can see in the photo, the button blends in fairly well.

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The MerrSonn seems to have been cast with the Naked Runner lower frame with the twin left side scope mount. After casting they must have cut off the scope mounting lugs and added the front pulley/ disk. Can see the cut off rear.

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Has it ever been considered this was first. It has the pully wheel, which may have left the mark when removed - to me it fits, and you cannot tell from any pic the length of the barrel with mg81 flash hider on it, in fact the weird angle on that might just be accountable for with a shorter barrel?
 
Sure. Possible. There is the rear disk cut off visible on the MerrSonn. Same position as the Naked Runner Mauser.
Who knows…
 
Also, not to change the subject! But on the general subject of the ANH blaster's last appearance (the deleted "bunker" scene), I've never been able to make out any evidence of the 'mystery disc' on the lower receiver during the one good shot we see of the blaster's left side, even though the whole thing is most likely the same base C96 used for the Hero prop. So assuming it's the same lower (which seems likely), then the idea that the mystery disc somehow etched through the bluing doesn't seen to stack up.

 
oh crud, you're right! Thanks for this.. hmm
Also, not to change the subject! But on the general subject of the ANH blaster's last appearance (the deleted "bunker" scene), I've never been able to make out any evidence of the 'mystery disc' on the lower receiver during the one good shot we see of the blaster's left side, even though the whole thing is most likely the same base C96 used for the Hero prop. So assuming it's the same lower (which seems likely), then the idea that the mystery disc somehow etched through the bluing doesn't seen to stack up.

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Makes you wonder what these prop guys were smoking. They put that thing together scope backwards and added some weird tube…
WHY ?
 
The MerrSonn seems to have been cast with the Naked Runner lower frame with the twin left side scope mount. After casting they must have cut off the scope mounting lugs and added the front pulley/ disk. Can see the cut off rear.
I did some crude measurements in a slightly higher res version of that image against a screenshot from the Naked Runner, and the size of the rear disc checks out.

BTW. I suspect the lock group might be from the same gun as the Han ANH. There is a notch on the left-side lock frame lug on the Han ANH that I think I see in the picture of the Merr-Sonn, but it is just a pixel, so I can't be sure it isn't a compression artefact on the image ... or that it isn't a moulding artifact either.
I think the Naked Runner gun had an "old safety" also, with a hole through the knob, but it could have been filled before moulding.
 
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I did some crude measurements in a slightly higher res version of that image against a screenshot from the Naked Runner, and the size of the rear disc checks out.

I think the lock group might be from the same gun as the Han ANH though. There is a notch on the left-side lock frame lug on the Han ANH that I think I see in the picture of the Merr-Sonn, but it is just a pixel, so I can't be sure it isn't a compression artefact on the image ...
I think the Naked Runner had an "old safety" also, but the hole in the lever could have been filled before moulding.
Also speaking of the safety. note on the MerrSonn the safety is in the up position and the hammer is down.
 
Makes you wonder what these prop guys were smoking. They put that thing together scope backwards and added some weird tube…
WHY ?

To borrow an image from Markus:

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Assuming the base C96 used in the bunker blaster is indeed the complete hero prop gun (which seems likely given the bull barrel, hensoldt scope and Hero scope mount), what I think most likely happened is that the original crossbar for the gun was most likely lost at some point (perhaps even the dovetail as well), and thus they decided to use the scope mount from Han's blaster in place of the horizontal crossbar.

And since the hero's bull barrel was able to be threaded with a longer barrel:

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This longer barrel was most likely also supplied by Bapty, and was added since the scope was now so much higher due to the different crossbar.

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Finally they added something to the end in place of the MG-81 flash hider, and poof - redheaded stepchild Dl-44!
 
I did some crude measurements in a slightly higher res version of that image against a screenshot from the Naked Runner, and the size of the rear disc checks out.

I think the lock group might be from the same gun as the Han ANH though. There is a notch on the left-side lock frame lug on the Han ANH that I think I see in the picture of the Merr-Sonn, but it is just a pixel, so I can't be sure it isn't a compression artefact on the image ...
I think the Naked Runner had an "old safety" also, but the hole in the lever could have been filled before moulding.
Also speaking of the safety. note on the MerrSonn the safety is in the up position and
the hammer is down.

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To borrow an image from Markus:

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Assuming the base C96 used in the bunker blaster is indeed the complete hero prop gun (which seems likely given the bull barrel, hensoldt scope and Hero scope mount), what I think most likely happened is that the original crossbar for the gun was most likely lost at some point (perhaps even the dovetail as well), and thus they decided to use the scope mount from Han's blaster in place of the horizontal crossbar.

And since the hero's bull barrel was able to be threaded with a longer barrel:

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This longer barrel was most likely also supplied by Bapty, and was added since the scope was now so much higher due to the different crossbar.

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Finally they added something to the end in place of the MG-81 flash hider, and poof - redheaded stepchild Dl-44!
… maybe…
But why?
That monstrosity is no where close to Hans ANH blaster. Also that scene is from empire where he was already using the MGC based tank scoped blasters. So why the weird blaster in that scene?
They could have used the Dagobah stunt gun. Would have been closer to the ANH. But Han was not using the ANH blaster in that film so it makes no sense.

What that deleted scene and blaster does likely show is that the scope and mount existed in 1980- but was no longer attached to the original Mauser.

The ANH Mauser was a blank fire gun and had a broken and welded upper frame as evidenced by Carson’s lump. Maybe the upper frame finally failed completely making it unsafe and they tossed it.?
 
Honest question..

Why exactly do people think this “bizaro” blaster uses the exact same base the ANH Hero? What evidence is there other than the fact that it’s a c96?? Did Bapty famously only ever have just the one. I’ve never seen any picture that even shows any details at all of that bizaro build. Infact this is probably the best one and it’s still awful to draw a likeness from no?
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This is about actually what I mean; the tops of the bolt and sight slide are bright, but the sides seem to be unusually dark in all of the pre-production images (post Bapty). I think that if the entire thing was painted then these areas are where the paint would naturally wear/flake off first, hence why they are visibly bright in the film.
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Going back to the painted or not painted topic I noticed from that naked runner photo the Mauser looks similar but to the above where the side of the slide is darker than the top itself..
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People assume that it is most likely the same base gun as the hero prop because

a. The same hensoldt scope is used

b. The same custom scope mount is used

c. The C96 seems to have the same kind of thicker, threaded bull barrel as the hero gun

Theoretically I suppose it's possible that the base gun could be different, as there are no good images of it. But the presence of the same scope mount and scope means that this prop had to have come from Bapty, which in turn means that the base gun did as well. So unless Bapty truly did have more than one bull barreled C96 this being a rejiggered hero blaster makes sense.
 
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