ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

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  1. deadbolt

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    This thread is to discuss the accuracy and details of the DL-44.

    Any ideas, finds, reference, or any information at all is Welcome!

    A HUGE Thanks to Everyone that has contributed to this Research, this Blaster is going to be understood better then ever by the time all of us are done with it! :thumbsup


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    Major Update: Dummy Radial Cylinders, Pushrods & Rocker Covers Found!!
    (Discoveries in post #1697 & #1704)

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    Discussion Highlights So Far

    Flat Bottomed Barrels make the rockin' world go round
    (Discoveries in post #110 & #124)

    The Barrel has now been Confirmed to have a Tapered Barrel and a Level, Milled Flat area on the underside of the barrel. Starting flush with the flat recess on the underside of the Mauser's upper receiver, and running outward towards the end of the barrel.

    With the milled flat portion on the bottom of the barrel, it helps create the 'dropped down illusion' to the Flash Hider, even though the Flash Hider is mostly centered.

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    Sitting Target Scope & Mount Match
    (Discoveries in post #443)

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    Additional taper to the Grill pieces, and an Offset top piece
    (Discoveries in post #553)

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    Odd unique lump on upper right side of the Hero DL-44, Merr Sonns and ESB stunts
    (Discoveries in post #1534)

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    Chicago Art Exhibit! 5/12/2018 - 6/9/2018
    (More info in post #4091)

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    -Carson
     
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  2. DL 44 Blaster

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    Wow...this is a tough call. On one hand I do see what you mean about a flat spot but, on the other hand I see only a shine from the obvious light source...probably a flash.

    If I had to pick I'd say no, there is no milled flat surface and it is round all the way around.

    Have any clearer pics of the Naked Runner gun surfaced that might help?
     
  3. kpax

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    Anyone ever study the pics below? I know some have posted #1, the side view with Sinatra but never saw the others on the RPF.

    Seems the barrel may be the same barrel from ANH.
    About the right length.
    Has the bevel/chamfers

    Also note the position of the scope mount. Possible Mystery Disk answer?

    Don't think it's the same receiver due to the Safety. Has a hole in the knurled area. ANH does not.

    Gonna try to get film on Netflix to see better. The last shot laying in the grass seems to be our best bet.

    The little nitch at the end of the barrel to lock the other segments would be great to look for on the Solo blaster.

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  4. kpax

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    Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Barrel Discussion

    look at this and tell me what you think.

    Note the shadow line below the red line. Seems to be round?
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  5. micdavis

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    Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Barrel Discussion

    Very, very, interesting.
     
  6. tango'd fett

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    My thoughts would be round too , i think the offset of the flash hider is caused by the grub screw pulling it down when it was tightened up.
     
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  7. lonepigeon

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    Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Barrel Discussion


    Only the upper is from The Naked Runner. The lower body of the gun is a different Mauser.
    Chris Reiff and I figured there was a flat bottom to the barrel when we blueprinted the gun for SW Blueprints: The Ultimate Collection a few years ago. It makes sense and it does make it easier to break down (and we know they switched the upper onto another body for ANH).

    The Merr Sonn blasters are cast from the full Naked Runner gun (upper and lower). The lower was replaced later when Han's Hero blaster was finished.

    All those Naked Runner pics are from my site The Parts of Star Wars:
    The Naked Runner thumbnails

    The info about the lower Mauser being replaced is on there too:
    BlasTech DL-44
     
  8. DL 44 Blaster

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    Just when "everything" was thought to have been discussed about this prop, something new arises and a day's lesson is learned :)

    In the one Naked Runner pic with the extreme close-up it looks to be milled on all sides....possibly octagonal. :confused

    Why didn't the MR Han "EE" incorporate this into its design? Is this discovery that new?
     
  9. deadbolt

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    Just the thing I was curious about too :thumbsup
    After years of seeing numerous DL-44 discussions and replicas, I've never really seen this one detail discussed or incorporated into many replicas.

    It just seems too Perfect of an explanation to NOT be there. If only we had better references to work with..:unsure

    -Carson
     
  10. kpax

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    here are some more images and drawings to ponder.

    The barrel in my opinion not octagonal as seen in the HERO pics below. I think it looked that way in the extreme CU due to the poor quality screen capture of the image and by blowing it up so big- it simply got distorted.

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  11. kpax

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    Hi Chris,

    I tried to email you from your Parts of Star Wars site but the mail couldn't be delivered. I was asking if you had any HD versions of the images from Naked Runner to review. I hope you don't mind me posting the pics. I'm new here, not sure if I'm supposed to post your link or not.

    As for your observations, it does seem they used the upper receiver from the Naked Runner for the DL44 including barrel.

    How did you find out about the switching of the lower receiver if you don't mind me asking? Did you ( do you still) have contact with the production people?

    The lower receiver is definitely different, but the ANH version still seems to have the DISK area exactly where the front mount is on the Naked Runner frame AND in the Silent Target frame (see below) has the mount (although this Mauser is the Schnellfeuer version.) in the same place. Interesting.

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    Although the FLAT bottom idea seems reasonable I don't think it is accurate. The idea that it would make it easier to "break down " is only applicable if the bull barrel actually came off. I have not seen the film. Did it come off in the film?

    From what I know about real guns ( I have built and customized my own custom guns including a .45 race gun for IPSC competition) the barrels are screwed on in revolvers. The c96 Mauser is forged as one piece with the receiver which is why the bull barrel is so unusual.

    To remove the barrels you use a barrel wrench and secure the frame in a vise etc. Some more modern guns use screw on barrels including some rifles but the ANH gun seems to be attached permanently otherwise why not just unscrew it and fit something better to match the flash hider? It was said that the flash hider, as evidenced in some photos, was "stuffed" to make the barrel sit in the hider centered which is why the flash hider is off kilter in some pics.

    The "set screw" is only used here to secure the end of the barrel. Not sure if they threaded the barrel or the MG81 hole to do this.

    Not sure if everyone knows, but the REAL MG81 boosters do not use set screws. The holes in the flash hider, which if you notice goes through top and bottom, as to aid in * the booster on and off the end of the machine gun barrel. You would put a rod through the holes to get more leverage. You can imagine the vibration the machine gun would exhibit. If the booster wasn't tight it would just fly off.

    See below:

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    I don't think ONE flat side would aid the break down of the gun very much. IF they were going to go through the trouble of milling a flat on the bottom, why not on the top too? Or profile the top to match the angled contours of the receiver instead of just chamfering the little areas?

    I tried to show in the following drawing below the profile and contours I think are accurate in a real Mauser c96. I used the cleanest and best side view I could find and laid out the bore axis and receiver as best I could. It (seems) that there is enough difference in height to allow the full round barrel contour as modeled in all the reproductions.

    But hey...I could be completely wrong!

    Let me know what you think.

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    Also a quick Q about the Flash hider. I saw that on The Parts of Star Wars site a 1972 Fire Extinguisher Dispersion Nozzle as the flash hider. That fire extinguisher nozzle looks very much like the MG81 part. Do you have any more info on the nozzle? Anybody?
     
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  12. lonepigeon

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    Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Barrel Discussion

    Not sure why your email didn't come through. The email link should be correct on the site. Naked Runner isn't available in HD or even DVD last I checked. Those screencaps are from the VHS.

    No, I haven't talked to the production people. All my research has been done from hi res photos. Early preproduction photos of Han's blaster clearly show it was built from a clean lower (no holes). The "mystery disc" only shows up in later pics. It seems to be a mark from a piece removed. The circle is slightly recessed (might just be paint thickness).
    The Merr Sonn blasters have discs from where the Naked Runner mount was cut off (probably cut from the resin copies not the actual gun). They also have the same hammer as the Naked Runner gun, not the final Han blaster.


    I think by break down people mean easier to slide the upper off.
    No, the barrel did not come off in Naked Runner.
    The flat also just looks better since it matches up with the gun body.


    The Parts of Star Wars needs to be updated (I know, I know - it's been MANY years). I work nearly full-time on official Star Wars work and just don't have the time to work on the site.

    That "fire extinguisher nozzle" pic came from an old member of the RPF who swore he found the correct prop part. It wasn't until years later that the MG81 hider was found and we knew he was lying. I have no idea of the actual origins of that pic. It could be a war relic found on a battlefield, but he swore it came from a pile of old extinguisher parts from a fire house.
     
  13. Dann

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    I agree with everything kpax has said.

    I don't quite understand what you mean by having the flat in the barrel that the upper would slide off easier. Doesn't the upper slide forward (toward the muzzle) when you take the gun down? What would be the reason to have the flat at the "bottom of the barrel"? :lol

    Anyway, I dunno, I'm not convinced either way 100% about the flat, but it looks round to me at the moment, always has.
     
  14. kurtyboy

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    Pretty sure they slide back. The MGC does anyway. Pretty much like most hand guns.

     
  15. kpax

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    If the upper receiver slid off to the rear it would be important the barrel did'nt stick below the frame.

    See below and link for break down info.

    The Mauser model 1896 Broomhandle Pistol

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    [SIZE=-1]* the hammer and lift the lock frame stop lever (take down latch) upwards. Slide the receiver foreward, it should be toward the barrel, slowly, as the lock frame may pop loose from the bolt locking block. If the locking frame does not pop loose then firmly pull the lock frame downward and away from the the barrel.
    [/SIZE]

    Unless it's a different model this seems correct. The upper slides Forward so no "need" for the flat.

    BUT... you never know.

    Great info from Chris. Thanks for the explanations!

    I think we have now proven that there could be a flat... but my depiction of the cross section of the barrel and receiver/bore lay out shows it could be done without a flat.

    Glad that's settled.
    One more thing to consider:

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    All depends on the actual position of the bore.
    The search goes on.
     
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  16. kpax

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    Just for reference.

    A lot of variation in Mausers from what I have seen.





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  17. kpax

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    Hi Kurtyboy,

    Most autoloaders like the 1911 and Glock disassemble with the slides moving to the front after removing or unlocking the slide pin.

    1911
    YouTube - ‪1911 Takedown Video 1‬‏

    Glock:
    YouTube - ‪Glock Disassembly / Field Strip‬‏


    The Mauser does not use a slide per se, it uses an internal bolt assembly similar to a Ruger Mark 2.

    Ruger:
    YouTube - ‪Ruger MK II & III Disassembly/Reassembly EASY (part 1 of 2)‬‏

    BUT as Kurtyboy said, the c96 upper receiver does indeed disassemble to the rear!

    I found this:
    Mauser:
    YouTube - ‪C96 disassembly and reassembly‬‏


    So the first link I posted with disassembly instructions is incorrect information or just written poorly.

    Seeing is believing.. .except in still shots and bad angles, or over exposures or anything to do with props and movies.

    Still doesn't help answer the flat barrel question, can still work either way.

    Is this question analogous to the Flat Earth vs round Earth question?

    Maybe we should try to answer that one, ...Easier I think.
     
  18. kurtyboy

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    Sorry for my ignorance with guns but we just don't have 'em here!

    I just know that you can slide the upper receiver back on the Mauser which * the hammer back, and I can do the same on a replica 1911 I have. :$

     
  19. kpax

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    Hi Kurtyboy,

    Sorry if my reply sounded offensive, wasn't trying to jab at you at all. Just answering.

    The Slides and or bolts do pull back to "rack" the hammer.

    And you were correct about the Mauser receiver being disassembled to the rear. Have a look at the videos. Pretty cool.
     
  20. wuher da brewer

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    I've disassembled the MGC a dozen times in the last week or so, it's very cool it breaks down in the exact same manner as the real Mauser broomhandle. I even built my GK MGC disassembled so I knew I could get it to reassemble and disassemble any time I want.

    I'm leaning towards flat milled based on the reasoning behind disassembly/reassembly and the pictorial evidence.

    Are we here to discuss any other aspects of the blaster like the barrel greeblies in evidence in the second and fifth pictures in post 1? Or has that all been well sorted? Maybe a refresher for those of us who enjoy talking blasters.
     
  21. kurtyboy

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    No offence taken, honestly! ;)

     
  22. kurtyboy

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    For anyone that doesn't already know, the barrel greeblies were nailed by Lonepigeon years ago. A piece of t-track and two of those 'antenna' toggle switches.

    The exact same details are on the Merr Sonns but in resin obviously.

     
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  23. wuher da brewer

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    I'd love to see another run of those antenna toggle switches. I'd like 6 or 8 of them.
     
  24. Dann

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    Me too. :)
     
  25. RPGnerd

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    Kurt, does the replicas upper receiver draw back, or do you mean the little T lever (like in a M4 rifle) pulls back? Some replicas don't have the same feature as the original guns.

    In a real Mauser C96 you flip the safety to Fire and draw back the internal slide, but the upper receiver stays stationary (and will lock open if unloaded, otherwise it feeds a round). The hammer is now cocked and the safety may be put to safe now.

    It will slide back slightly (under a quarter inch) and will do so when fired but remains for the most part stationary with the inner slide shooting back and over the hammer. The hammer does not self * mechanically but gets slapped back from the slide ramming back cocking it.

    The C96 is very odd, and it's to expensive to shoot ($2+ a bullet) but it looks so cool. My C96
     
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  26. kurtyboy

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    The whole upper receiver slides back on the MGC. Can't remember how far back it slides and I only have an upper here so I can't try it - the lower half is away to get some work done on it.

     
  27. wuher da brewer

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    RPGNerd, we're talking about for disassembly, not opening the chamber or shell loading.
     
  28. kpax

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    Hi RPGnerd,

    You have a real c96 you say?

    Maybe we can get you to measure the bore axis and upper receiver for us?

    If we knew the width and height exactly and where the bore hole is in relation we could tell if the diameter of the bull barrel-if the same as the width of the upper receiver, would allow the barrel to sit above the top edge or not.

    Do you have a micrometer? And would you be willing to do this?

    You would probably have to take it apart to get the center of the bore but maybe could get the top and bottom of the chamber from the top with the slide bolt back.

    Could settle the issue for us!
     
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    I'd be willing to do this but I'm not sure how. Would it be measured from the flat up, I don't have a micrometer available.
     
  31. kpax

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    Hi,

    That would be a great help.

    Do you have a steel ruler? Even a nice plastic ruler would prob. do,

    Are you able to disassemble the receiver?

    If so I would take the Mauser apart safely, making sure it was empty of course and following all the safety protocols.

    Get the upper receiver with the barrel and , using an EMPTY cartridge case slid partially, maybe half way in to the chamber and measure from the flat on the bottom of the upper receiver to the case.

    Then simply measure the inside from top to bottom and then side to side.

    If you cant disassemble, no prob. I will make a drawing to show you how to do it and where to measure.

    Thanks for the offer to help!
     
  32. deadbolt

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    I did some measuring on my MGC Mauser today, which has the barrel lopped off in just the right area.
    Here's the results...for an MGC at least.

    My MGC
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    The drawing isn't flawless, it was just a quick way to get the right idea.
    The flat angle measurements, bore and proportions are accurate though.
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    Here's the Two different Barrel Size Possibilities. I'm liking the one on the Left the most. The barrel on the Original does seem a tad larger than the width of the Mauser's Upper.
    Barrels shown in following pictures are Centered.
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    Definitely seems plausible, ehh?
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    -Carson
     
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  33. deadbolt

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    This thread has been changed so it's now for ANYTHING to do with the the DL-44 :thumbsup
    BUT, at the moment I think it would be better to work through each questionable detail of the Barrel Area, one at a time, just to keep things organized. So, after we are all happy with this one detail, we'll move on to the next tricky little detail! :)

    -Carson
     
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  34. Lichtbringer

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    No Marcus, it stays. It just has some mm "play".

    It only slides back at dissasembling. The job usually done by a sliding back upper receiver is done with the sliding back "T-bar" in front of the hammer.
     
  35. kpax

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    If the real Mauser measures the same, than it seems that the barrel may indeed be flat bottomed as Carson shows.

    The only other proof we may want to see is how it looks on our props. I may try a centered sample barrel with flat bottom and take som pics at the same angles as the hero gun to see how it matches up.

    Also just found out that Forgotten Cinema HAS a d DVD of naked Runner! I am waiting to verify its a DVD.

    THE NAKED RUNNER Frank Sinatra

    May be able to see something else but Carsons drawings are very convincing... as long as the bbl is in the same position on the real c96.


    ...closing in on the truth.

    nice work carson
     
  36. kpax

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    the answer lies in the grassy knoll

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  37. deadbolt

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    Simply a Fantastic observation!! (y)thumbsup Great Work!
    ...:D

    -Carson
     
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  38. kpax

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    Carson, I took your drawings and superimposed it on the HERO CU. When lined up it looks like the flat spot would be as I show, a little lower than yours, not in the recess. What do you think?

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  39. kpax

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    recess area in super extreme CU
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  40. Dann

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    Wow, dang. Certainly looks as though there's a break in the reflection in that "grassy knoll" photo.

    Good catch!
     
  41. Lichtbringer

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    I´m still not convinced - it´s the combination that makes no sense.

    I turned my MGC receiver/barrel down on the lathe, so it is centered around the barrels bore (if there would be one) - that´s the only way a lathe works if you don´t chuck a piece with a offset, hard to do with this piece if the barrel and the hole for the bolt at the end are a straight line.

    Then i turned the barrel, and drilled/machined it a hole - again completly centered without offset.

    Now we have a situation that on the top the chamfer looks not prominent enough, and we would need a flat milled bottom to disassemble it - cause a completly centered "line" puts the barrel to low, on top for the chamfer, and on the bottom for disassembling.

    What can we do to get more chamfer? Making it a bigger dia - but that way we would also get more dia at the undersideof the barrel. That means even more to mill flat - the more flat the more easy noticeable. I mean "really noticeable", like a D-ring. AND the barrel would also stick more over the sides, it would be easy noticeable from every view than from the flat side - to get 1mm more chamfer on the top, the barrel has to has 2mm more dia. Instead the 22mm i used a 24mm, come on - 1mm sticking out on each side, 1mm more to mill on the underside?


    Or, the second alternative, everything was kept at the 22mm - just mounted offset, cheated with a not centered/aligned bore, there was no need that real bullets can pass the barrel.
    That way to lift the barrel up by 1mm would keep the sides of the receiver matching to the barrel, it would delete or at least minimize the amount of milling the bottom flat- AND it would enlarge the chamfer.

    Would be a easy job (much more easy than what we do to replicate it) - just saw/mill the old barrel from the receiver at the wanted place, machine a new barrel the way you want it, weld/braze the parts together. Voila.
     
  42. kpax

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    An interesting problem:


    I think to make the blank prop work properly it would have needed to be set as a real barrel. Blanks are sensitive to pressure and may not have operated the auto loading if not done correctly...so

    I think we need to get measurements from a real Mauser. The position of the bore is the key.

    My drawing showed that a bore height of just a mm or two higher than the MCG would make the difference...I think

    RPGnerd has offered to measure his gun. We need to show him what we need. I will try to work up a drawing to help him. He does not have a micrometer so we need to use other means.

    Any other ideas?
     
  43. dcarty

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    I have a real Broomhandle Mauser (top), an MGC Mauser and a Micrometer so I'll be happy to help out as best I can.

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  44. Lichtbringer

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    Not in every case - for some field training we got trainingsammunition/blanks with reduced power, as no slug needed to be pushed. To keep the effect of autoloading running, the reduced power had to be kept in the barrel for building up the needed pressure. Therefor we unscrewed the flashhider and put a blank-firing-adapter on. It has a really reduced outled to keep the pressure moving the bolt backwards instead of loosing the pressure through the barrel.

    A 1mm offset would still provide more free flow than needed, probably another reduction would be needed, maybe invisible inside the barrel the bore was smaller, around 2-3mm.
     
  45. Lichtbringer

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    Much appreciated. :)
     
  46. deadbolt

    deadbolt Sr Member

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    Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Barrel Discussion

    That's great! Your Mauser would be an awesome source for more accurate measurements. Thanks! :thumbsup

    If you can manage to figure up any or all of the measurements in this picture, that would be just great!
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    -Carson
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2017
  47. kurtyboy

    kurtyboy Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Barrel Discussion

    Sorry do derail, but has anyone else noticed that the Naked Runner scope looks a lot like the Compac (GK) with the front bell still attached?

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  48. dcarty

    dcarty Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Barrel Discussion

    LOL--It would be another amazing coincidence if it were the same scope!

    Here's what I have so far. Measurements off the C96:

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    Measurements off the MGC:

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    The MGC is amazingly close in some dimensions and very different in others. The differences could be chalked up to the specific pistol that MGC copied. I've owned two C96 Mausers and the parts were not universally interchangeable between them either.
     
  49. kpax

    kpax Sr Member

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    Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Barrel Discussion

    the suspense is killing me!
     
  50. kpax

    kpax Sr Member

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    Re: ANH Hero DL-44 Barrel Discussion

    The two
    MGCs are very close
     

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