ANH Hero DL-44 Discussion - Three ANH Greeblies Found

[deadbolt]

I agree, either the button was removed for some reason (God knows why at this point, haha), or possibly the button was depressed inward and stuck on the flat portion of the sight ramp in between the scallops/notches??
I really doubt it though, I'd think some tiny bit of the button would still be visible, at least. But it appears to be completely gone! Nice catch, Pat!!

The button is there in the Pre-Pro shots, clearly, but not visible in the Chronicle/New photos whatsoever..


-Carson

 

[thd9791]

It shows a bit in that pic too but I was thinking of another promo image. I will have to find it, but...

The ridge also shows in the Luke Dagobah casting below.
Note the top and bottom ridge... likely glue... and also a center spot that lines up exactly. Likely the glue left from the pully wheel when it fell off.

The piston covers most of it but the center point is visible thru the hole in the piston.

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First thing I thought of was the muppet blaster!

and great catch on the sight button

 

[deadbolt]

I'm not sure, but I think we might just be seeing the High-Point of the sight-slider in this one, the button may actually be missing! Note the line of the receiver visible through the area where the button would normally be.

..Again, thank you so much Anonymous for letting us share these particular photos!!

-Carson

 

[OdiWan72]

With Carson's new photos there is another tidbit detail that come to light.

Looking at the pics. Couldn't be sure with the old chronicles pics because they used to actually cut around an image xacto style and thought maybe it was just a bad cut and paste job, but take a look at the top view image. I enlarged and enhanced a bit and tell me what you think.

I think- the rear sight elevation button is missing! I always suspected it but thought they may have accidentally cut it off in the crop but it looks like it's actually missing in these pics. Would definitely show at this angle.... mine does... ; )

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I think it´s still there and just hidden in the shadows of the upper receiver/ bolt etc.
I´ve handled quite a few real C96 over the years and found the button to have quite a few variations with regards to it´s height/ thickness and how far it sticks out of the rear sight elevation slide.

Check this out...I tried to match the angle the picture of the ANH blaster was taken.
See how distinct the button is and that it is much less protruding, than in your comparsion pic?

 

[Vanitas]

Good job with that image Markus! I think that really shows how the button could have been 'hidden'. I think if you also look at the Bapty image you can tell that the sight button is still present inside the slide:

Even if the button is on the other side of the slide, the T-shaped hole on the other side makes it rather cleer that at least at this point, the slide was not missing any parts. I guess you could say the button may have been sanded down for some reason or another, but I think it's most likely there, just not visible.

 

[OdiWan72]

...not even neccessarily sanded down, just less protruding due to manufacturing differences (like the one on my real C96)

 

[MastahBlastah]

Man, I hope that button is still there! Would hate to have to take it off of my replica, but it would eat away at me

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

OdiWan72 that pic is great and shows how small the button is on a c96 but I don’t think you have the angle quite right. The angle you have it on hides the button nicely but look at this angle of the hero prop. If u can try your Mauser at this angle I think you would actually see the button.. where it still doesn’t seem appear on the film prop? It’s a very subtle difference in angle but I think it might show.

Unless of course their is a discrepancy with all these Mausers as you mentioned. The button could also just be locked inside the slide for some strange reason.

deadbolt for that pic I brightened it up trying to reveal the shadows. It’s really hard to see (crappy pic when zoomed in) but what can be seen is the straight line on the Mauser itself, behind where the button would be. Yet nothing of the button seems to be visible. ?

 

[OdiWan72]

Am still convinced about the presence of the button.
Did you ever handle a real C96? The small button sticks out when the sight is correctly positioned on the „range marks“. But when the sight sits in between a mark, the button is pretty much plain with the slide

will post another pic asap

 

[OdiWan72]

Here you go.
Keep in mind that the slide itself differs as well with regards to the raised end, that the button sits in

 

[OdiWan72]

The slide on the blaster is obviously not positioned far to the back, but resting more forward on the sight…at least in the pic of the holstered prop. So the possibility of the button simply being stuck in the slide is very high imho

 

[scarf man]

I happen to have one with a missing button for comparison right here.

sorry about the crappy iPad pic quality, it’s all I have to hand at the moment.

 

[kpax]

Good job with that image Markus! I think that really shows how the button could have been 'hidden'. I think if you also look at the Bapty image you can tell that the sight button is still present inside the slide:

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Even if the button is on the other side of the slide, the T-shaped hole on the other side makes it rather cleer that at least at this point, the slide was not missing any parts. I guess you could say the button may have been sanded down for some reason or another, but I think it's most likely there, just not visible.

This is a pre-production image and I agree the button is there in this pic.

in the post-production pics the area is very dark... maybe there...maybe not.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

The slide on the blaster is obviously not positioned far to the back, but resting more forward on the sight…at least in the pic of the holstered prop. So the possibility of the button simply being stuck in the slide is very high imho

Makes total sense. At this point it’s anyones guess really. But it being “stuck” is a full possibility. And to your other question.. no I’ve never handled a real c96 before. I’m going only by pictures for what it’s worth.

To quote a famous scientist who I don’t recall at this time “when the facts change.. I change my mind”.

 

[kpax]

I agree there was a variations in parts but if the button sat THAT flush it would be useless.

If "stuck in" it would be below the surface in these pics. Could it be? Maybe...

Here are the three new top view images Carson provided. Slightly different angles. No hint...

 

[kpax]

Here is a theory.

Note the sight position in the casting.
The ramp is pushed forward raising the sight and the button/housing is forward to its normal position.

MAYBE... after casting they got a bunch of rubber into the sight channel and had to disassemble to clean it out and misplaced the button upon reassembly?

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

I agree there was a variations in parts but if the button sat THAT flush it would be useless.

If "stuck in" it would be below the surface in these pics. Could it be? Maybe...

Here are the three new top view images Carson provided. Slightly different angles. No hint...

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I think it’s also important in this case to look at the side view as well. It’s clear that the slide is in fact all the way to back so it shouldn’t be “stuck” in this photo either. Which would lead one to believe the possibility of it being removed for what ever reason to be quite possible. Forgive me but I like to look at these pictures this way..

 

[kpax]

The slide on the blaster is obviously not positioned far to the back, but resting more forward on the sight…at least in the pic of the holstered prop. So the possibility of the button simply being stuck in the slide is very high imho

As you point out, in the holstered pic where the blaster is pointing down the sight slide "slid" down/forward...exactly because there is no button lock in place. Without the sight slide lock,- the button housing will slip back and fourth as you tip the gun up or down from gravity. Logically pointing down, the slide slipped forward.

What do you think?

 

[kpax]

I think it’s also important in this case to look at the side view as well. It’s clear that the slide is in fact all the way to back so it shouldn’t be “stuck” in this photo either. Which would lead one to believe the possibility of it being removed for what ever reason to be quite possible. Forgive me but I like to look at these pictures this way..

...and to my eye, the button lock channel "looks" deeper than in the preproduction. Could be wrong and only shadows but with the top view images....

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

Here is a theory.

Note the sight position in the casting.
The ramp is pushed forward raising the sight and the button/housing is forward to its normal position.

MAYBE... after casting they got a bunch of rubber into the sight channel and had to disassemble to clean it out and misplaced the button upon reassembly?

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I thought maybe seeing the other side of this prop (from the slide scene in EMPIRE) might have the answer but it’s not clear enough. That and it looks to be attached all the way across when molded..