11th doctor waistcoats

[Cap Fitzgerald]

So, as to avoid derailment of other threads, I'm making this one so we can discuss the three waistcoats in the second half of series 7.

The first and most common is the "scale" waistcoat with woven silk buttons (except for in journey to the center of the tardis)

The second is the velvet waistcoat with what looks like lambs wool trim and metal buttons in the Christmas special and darker buttons in nightmare in silver and the name of the doctor that seem like silk

And last is the dark gray almost black plaid waistcoat in the 50th anniversary episode that has normal looking black buttons with small white circles or dots around the edges.

Let's see what we can find out about these

 

[Risu]

I wouldn't be surprised if that last one has some purple woven into it. I also never noticed that the grey waistcoat had different buttons in Journey. Kind of an odd change. It occurs to me though that a person could make the two easily exchangeable by sewing both sets of buttons to one side of a sew on snap and the other side to the waistcoat. It wouldn't be as strong as sewn on buttons, but it would make it effortless to switch between the two variants.

 

[Cap Fitzgerald]

That'd be one option, to avoid making two waistcoats (which I'll probably end up doing me, knowing myself)
It's just confusing because Journey is actually smack in the middle of filming when it comes to production order. There's no reason to change the buttons

 

[HaroldVonBraun]

Just to drop in my two cents, the third waistcoat seems to be made in a Glen Plaid/Prince of Wales check fabric, that might help with narrowing down the searching for it.

Also, just to go Off-topic again, for anyone who wants a 50th shirt on the cheap, Modern tailor's pinpoint oxford is quite close for 20 bucks.
Modern Tailor | select fabric - Blue Oxford dress shirts

 

[Columbo]

That'd be one option, to avoid making two waistcoats (which I'll probably end up doing me, knowing myself)
It's just confusing because Journey is actually smack in the middle of filming when it comes to production order. There's no reason to change the buttons

It isn't only Journey that has the plain buttons on the waistcoat, I think they are also in The Rings of Akhaten. Maybe the coat started out with the silk buttons for Cold War and Hide, which were filmed first. The two Victorian era episodes were shot next [different costume of course]. Then Journey and Rings were filmed [with Bells of Saint John in between] and the coat has new buttons in both of those. Maybe there was some damage after the earlier recording block, or someone decided they didn't like the silky buttons? Or maybe it is actually a different coat of the same fabric?

 

[Columbo]

Reading the Neckties thread and I saw some reference on the waistcoat pattern might be wanted, this may be the closest shot I've seen -

 

[thorneyboy]

Reading the Neckties thread and I saw some reference on the waistcoat pattern might be wanted, this may be the closest shot I've seen -

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There must be two waistcoats as the other one has a diamond dot pattern. It is currently at the experience and I have pics of it...

 

[Cap Fitzgerald]

Care to shows us those pictures?
And geez, two different waistcoats that look almost the same. It's like they're trying to mess with us

 

[HaroldVonBraun]

For people looking for the Velvet waistcoat, there's a ebay seller who has quite a close option, you just need to ask for them to make it with a straight button, they seem to have been accommodating to other members who asked for it.

 

[thorneyboy]

Yes hold on while I find them. Also have a lead on a decent fabric but would need colour strip and dyeing...

 

[thorneyboy]

For people looking for the Velvet waistcoat, there's a ebay seller who has quite a close option, you just need to ask for them to make it with a straight button, they seem to have been accommodating to other members who asked for it.

Yeah that was me lol. I found it and got the first one made..

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Here it is. Looking at it now it seems similar but the pattern looks more pronounced in a diamond shape. What you think?

 

[Cap Fitzgerald]

I'd say they're the same, and the pronunciation of the pattern is probably just a quirk of seeing it in person as opposed to on screen

 

[thorneyboy]

So what would you call the pattern?

 

[Cap Fitzgerald]

I'd call it scales, there's no other name for it. A waffle pattern fabric is sort of in the ballpark but really those are scales.

Also, does anyone know if the velvet waistcoat is a full waistcoat?
I'm fairly sure the 50th one isn't, and it just has no belt, but if anyone can disprove that, it'd be appreciated

 

[thorneyboy]

I'd call it scales, there's no other name for it. A waffle pattern fabric is sort of in the ballpark but really those are scales.

Also, does anyone know if the velvet waistcoat is a full waistcoat?
I'm fairly sure the 50th one isn't, and it just has no belt, but if anyone can disprove that, it'd be appreciated

The velvet is front facing only..

 

[thorneyboy]

I have found the Hide Shirt Fabric, the ACTUAL fabric and not a replica

 

[Risu]

I think I'll send that email, but I'm going to specify which vest I want. The 50th one is pretty boring IMO.

 

[progolfercd]

I'm actually looking for the 50th waistcoat. I think it's pretty snazzy.

 

[vortex]

the scale one would be my favorite, perfect if Abbeyshot could make one, i just got the coat

 

[Mr Meat Science]

Abbyshot has said that they're in the process of making the scale waistcoat, due out sometime in July, tentatively.