Cephus
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this thread is full of neckbeards - can't we just enjoy discovery for what it is?
Complete crap?
this thread is full of neckbeards - can't we just enjoy discovery for what it is?
Net net I thought it was good, not great, but enough to bring me back for season 2 although I stopped paying for Alll Access.
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How about just let people like what they like without shi$&ing on it? Would that be too much to ask?
this thread is full of neckbeards - can't we just enjoy discovery for what it is?
"this is Clem Fandango. Can you hear me"I didn't realise that Lieutenant Ash Tyler (Shazdad Latif)......
is also Clem Fandango (some swearing)
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I'll say this for Discovery: Beyond anything else, it's still the best star trek tv series in the last 10 years.
No, it isn't even that. The Orville is the best Star Trek TV series in the last 10 years. Discovery isn't even good enough to be bad TV.
...we all need to admit to ourselves that a good chunk of this franchise is goofy at best...
Oh if only that were true. The Orville at it's best is one of the weaker episodes of TNG and at the worst it's Ted in Space. I'm fine with Seth Macfarlane wanting to do a Star Trek show, but if he want's to do it he should do it, instead of half assing it, hedging his bets, and peppering in stupid jokes throughout it. Or make a straight comedy. Admittedly I couldn't get through the entire season, because by halfway I felt I had been watching two semi-decent shows simultaniously, and neither were worth following up on.
Discovery gets a lot of flak for being "not Trek enough" and sure, I mean when you compare it to the previous seasons you've gotta admit there is some discrepencies. It's certainly no Episode of Voyager where the Rock shows up to wrestle Seven of Nine, or the Episode of TNG where it turns out that Starfleet is being taken over by bug parasite things, or the Episode where Scotty is possessed by the ghost of Jack the Ripper when they're on a planet that looks like historical Scotland, Or the episode where Quark gets a sex change in a whacky comedy episode, or literally all of Enterprise. My point is that I love Star Trek, but we all need to admit to ourselves that a good chunk of this franchise is goofy at best. You can gripe on some of the writing choices in Discovery for sure, but there is literally no season on Star Trek out there that doesn't have these same problems. And what's more, Most of their first seasons are pretty rough (Except Enterprise, I really thing it started as high as it could and just kinda wandered down quality wise). But for example the Lorca plotline I think was one of the better first season Arcs that Star Trek has had. And I feel like people forget that most people hated TNG for not being star trek enough until like Season 3. I'm sure when whatever the next Star Trek series that comes out happens, people will be like 'Well Discovery never pulled this garbage" because for such a progressive franchise, Star Trek fans are by and large slow to accept any change to the franchise.
And honestly, it kinda bums me out, because I think a lot of people will be too busy being angry about what doesnt make sense (And I'll give it to you, Discovery definitely has problems, especially in terms of fitting into canon at large) to give themselves a chance to really enjoy the series as a show. And I don't mean a begrudging three episode pout watch so that they have specifics they can cite when they're mad about it not being exactly what they wanted. But I think some people can't look past the differences, which if you think about it really isn't very Star Trek of you.
But then, Nobody hates Star Trek like Star Trek fans, right?
But then, Nobody hates Star Trek like Star Trek fans, right?
did discovery die or are new episodes being made?