You have never seen the Blade Runner blaster before - PHOTOS RESTORED

[Gojira61]

<div class='quotetop'>(phase pistol @ Aug 29 2006, 02:58 AM) [snapback]1308953[/snapback]</div>

Well this explains the rust anyhow.

Look carefully at the white wire. Now you see it...

- k
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One thing is for sure, look at the color differences on the body of the gun in Karl's grab, you can clearly see the upper is a much different color than has been thought even back then.

Maybe that's just the wire ends and they are tucked under the swing out cylinder cover.

Jim

 

[spinner44.com]

4,000+ views within 24 hours. This has got to be a record.

 

[Talisen]

Now you see it again:

 

[PHArchivist]

By the way...

Where is Phil...?

 

[phase pistol]

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[spinner 44]

I have been searching throught the archived threads to quote Phil S. regading the color of the gun but I cannot find his post. I do remember clearly though.

Phil talked to the propmaster in charge of the gun and he said: the whole gun was blued (this means the Steyr parts) and the shown to Ridley, who did not liked it at it looked too new. It was dissamsembled and then rubbed hard with steeel wool, removing almost all the bluing from the Steyr and Bulldog parts. The only parts that kept the bluing were the custom handgrip and the Bulldog hadgrip frame.

If I remember well, the propmaster was so angry that he fired the person who did this as the thought he had ruined the look of the gun.

So this means that all Steyr parts were crude steel during filming. Nick Daring has already posted some pics, and its easy to see in some film captures too.

How do you decide you like you Blaster is one thing, but the people like me who prefer a anal reproduction of the prop rather than a "if this would be real" (blued steel would make perfect sense), would go for a steel colour as seen in the pics, minus the rust and pitting, of course.

From what all I have researched, I can tell you the ONLY difference shown by hero gun used on filming and the one shown now is the rust on the steel.

My two cents

 

[PHArchivist]

That makes pretty good sense (if not perfect sense). And I do recall the story of Ridley wanting to age the gun.

A couple people here postulated that the blueing wore off over time. I suggested that the evenness of the wear and lack of collateral wear contradicts this.

But if it was done intentionally with dissambled parts, well... There you go.

And that would also explain why it was more susceptible to rust over the years, correct? Removal of a protective finish, combinded with possibly less-than-ideal handling over the years...

 

[eltee]

<div class='quotetop'>(spinner 44 @ Aug 29 2006, 08:37 AM) [snapback]1309102[/snapback]</div>

I have been searching throught the archived threads to quote Phil S. regading the color of the gun but I cannot find his post. I do remember clearly though.

Phil talked to the propmaster in charge of the gun and he said: the whole gun was blued (this means the Steyr parts) and the shown to Ridley, who did not liked it at it looked too new. It was dissamsembled and then rubbed hard with steeel wool, removing almost all the bluing from the Steyr and Bulldog parts. The only parts that kept the bluing were the custom handgrip and the Bulldog hadgrip frame.

If I remember well, the propmaster was so angry that he fired the person who did this as the thought he had ruined the look of the gun.

So this means that all Steyr parts were crude steel during filming. Nick Daring has already posted some pics, and its easy to see in some film captures too.

How do you decide you like you Blaster is one thing, but the people like me who prefer a anal reproduction of the prop rather than a "if this would be real" (blued steel would make perfect sense), would go for a steel colour as seen in the pics, minus the rust and pitting, of course.

From what all I have researched, I can tell you the ONLY difference shown by hero gun used on filming and the one shown now is the rust on the steel.

My two cents
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That makes sense. I have seen guns that have had the finish stripped away or steel wool'd off, and they look just like that. They also start rusting if preventive maintenance is not implemented. IIRC, the magazine on that Steyr is a synthetic so it would stay black.

This whole BR find is exciting. New and credible details on the screen used gun, identification card, uniform, etc. :eek

 

[racprops]

Sadly (for me, so many years painting then black) I aggree, it is bare steel, there are too many pictures showing that.

So I will convert. Amen.

Rich

 

[franz bolo]

Rich, do you have a link to any pics you took?

thanks

FB

 

[Gojira61]

<div class='quotetop'>(Talisen @ Aug 29 2006, 10:35 AM) [snapback]1309060[/snapback]</div>

Now you see it again:

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Man, you look at that grab and there it is, the same gun Karl photographed, color, details, wire, all of it.

It's funny how we have all looked at these grabs for years but now that the actual gun has been seen and photographed all the details come out that have been there all along.

Jim

 

[racprops]

And yes the second I saw the wires I knew it was real as thet funney white line in the wall shot had bugged me for years.

Rich

 

[PHArchivist]

<div class='quotetop'>(racprops @ Aug 29 2006, 04:01 PM) [snapback]1309123[/snapback]</div>

Sadly (for me, so many years painting then black) I aggree, it is bare steel, there are too many pictures showing that.

So I will convert. Amen.

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I can almost hear the gavel smacking the pulpit.

And dammit all if the finish I achieved on the Steyr protion of my own build-up isn't the best BLACK gun finish I've ever pulled off.

In the voice of Roy Batty, "Time... To repaint..."

 

[philippes]

Here's another revelation: at least three heroes exist. You're already familiar with the gun documented in this thread, but I was just contacted by another collector who has the second hero. And although the third is unconfirmed, I'm nearly certain it exists, as the property master established it was sent to this person.

Tentatively, it appears that a single Steyr receiver was procured, molded, and then foundry cast, as my contact confirmed that his gun has the same serial number as this gun. Since the Charter Arms gun was so cheap, they easily purchased additional copies of those.

Due to the fact that a foundry cast copy of the Steyr receiver would be a violation of the 1968 Gun Control Act, it's becoming clear why this wouldn't have been made public.

I'll need to find the property master again to confirm all of this.

I've been aware of the fact that more than one hero exists for quite some time, but have only been allowed to speak of it now.

Phil

 

[Simba]

So were all three guns made using the foundry cast Steyr parts or was there one that used the real Steyr?

 

[philippes]

<div class='quotetop'>(Simba @ Aug 29 2006, 01:39 PM) [snapback]1309187[/snapback]</div>

So were all three guns made using the foundry cast Steyr parts or was there one that used the real Steyr?
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My guess is that one of the guns has the original Steyr, while two of them have castings. It's also possible that all of them are cast. I simply don't know for sure.

Phil

 

[racprops]

Well as this gun has CLEAR numbers and all three importing stamps, this seems to be the real Styer, and I have had almost no luck getting good castings with clear lettering.

Rich

 

[Noeland]

<div class='quotetop'>(gojira61 @ Aug 29 2006, 04:20 PM) [snapback]1309141[/snapback]</div>

Man, you look at that grab and there it is, the same gun Karl photographed, color, details, wire, all of it.

It's funny how we have all looked at these grabs for years but now that the actual gun has been seen and photographed all the details come out that have been there all along.

Jim
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Yes, I feel exactly the same. I've certainly studied that picture along with many others and honestly always assumed it was some sort of exposed metal, being so much lighter than the rest of the gun. I was actually shocked to see that damn clipped wire, but not very suprised.

Guys, I was actually excited to wake up and come back to this thread. hahahaha. Does that make me sick . . .

And Phil, You're holding out on us man. 3 hero guns that had "foundry" cast bolts? That is a huge piece of information. Wow, just when ya think "OK, this is all I could ever know about this" Phil shows up to school us. :lol

Damn.

 

[phase pistol]

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[philippes]

I'm still trying to confirm all of this information. At the moment, everything about this blaster is correct, and my contacts might have been misled. We'll see.

I've emailed my prop master contact. It'll be interesting to see if he responds. Originally, when I first interviewed him, he told me only one hero existed. That might still be the case.

Phil