You have never seen the Blade Runner blaster before - PHOTOS RESTORED

[Noeland]

WAY back on page 2, UNIT PD mentioned he didn't think the front trigger was a bulldog trigger, which got me to wondering, then I saw this in one of Karl's photos.

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Now, I am certainly no bulldog trigger expert. I've seen them exposed before but do not remember ever seeing a notch in them. So, with respect to the fact that the part of the trigger has been cut away, to whoever may know, is this notch found on bulldog triggers?

Njc------------------

 

[Riv]

Wow. :eek

Truly spectacular. Thanks to everyone involved in bringing this out into the light. And to think just today I was reading about Blade Runner showing up on a list of future HD-DVD releases from Warner.

I love my C&S PKD blaster, but I eagerly look forward to an updated version

So where does the line form, Mr. Coyle?

 

[Noeland]

Another question, do we know if this display will be shown at any other venues????

 

[gavidoc]

Fantastic photos. Well done.

As for the steel, both the steyer and the main revolver look to be guns that were blued originally and over the years, the bluing has worn off in some places and patinaed to the dull grey/brown finish found currently.

If you do a search for old weapons you will see that blued weapons that are not oiled on a regular basis will take on the characteristics found on these pieces.

 

[Darth Infamous]

I have to agree with Gav on this. The Steyr reciever and barrel were blued IMO. I just think there would be way to much contrast between the painted ammo housing and covers to the reciever. Watching the DVD leads me to this conclusion too. Does anyone know of any Steyr 222 made in steel only? No blueing. It would be a pain in the butt for the gunshop to where down the blue and it makes no sense why they would have to for the movie.

Carl

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Fantastic photos. Well done.

As for the steel, both the steyer and the main revolver look to be guns that were blued originally and over the years, the bluing has worn off in some places and patinaed to the dull grey/brown finish found currently.

If you do a search for old weapons you will see that blued weapons that are not oiled on a regular basis will take on the characteristics found on these pieces.
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[dcarty]

WoW. :eek Thanks for the pics Karl.. Interesting observations about the front trigger. Until we see the fruits of Mr Coyle's pics I wouldn't be prepared to say either way. The only thing that really leads me to think it might not be is that the groves on the front of the trigger extend all the way out to the edge. The slot on the back and reshaping may have been done to prevent it from interfering with the "real" trigger. Here are some quick snaps I took of a Bulldog trigger I have:

Cheers,

Dave C

--Thanks to Wackychimp for hosting the pics.

 

[Noeland]

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I have to agree with Gav on this. The Steyr reciever and barrel were blued IMO. [/b]

This is just a thought, I tend to agree as well. We're seeing a weapon here that has clealry not been cared for as well. I mean, the barrel still has gun powder residue in it.

STILL, for the sake of arguement, rumour has it that Ridley Scott and the prop master saw the Steyr receiver in a gunshop. It could be that the part they saw was unblued, and that's how the gun was built.

Maybe I'm way off base here, but I'm not sure we should assume the gun was in pristine condition to begin with, should we? :lol

 

[WinstonWolf359]

I was just thinking that myself. Who's to say they started with a new and pristine rifle in the first place?

For all we know (thought I personally doubt it) the gun was just as rusty in 1981 as it is today...

 

[PHArchivist]

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If I recall, its the sequence either before or after he gets pummeled by Leon that shows the most contrast between the Steyr portion and the rest of the prop.

Screen caps would help...

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I'd do it myself, but have yet to buy this on DVD for fear of the 6-disc, supder-duper, ulitmate collector's anniversary special edition coming otu the very next day...

Anybody...?

Please...

 

[terryr]

I can't beleive they let it get rusty. It must have been stored for a long time in damp conditions. A little oil would have prevented it...

 

[phase pistol]

PHArchivist: What, noone told you about the special box set coming out?

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After years of legal disputes, Warner Brothers announced in 2006 that it has finally secured full distribution rights to the film. They plan for three stages of releases for the film. First, a digitally remastered single-disc limited re-release of the 1992 Director's Cut is scheduled for September 5, 2006 and October 9th in the UK. Second, Ridley Scott's new "Final Cut" of the film is scheduled for theatrical release in 2007. The third and final phase, a multi-disc box set including the two previously mentioned cuts, the U.S. and International cuts, and bonus features, is also scheduled for 2007. Warner Bros. has plans to release this box set not only on DVD, but also on the HD DVD and Blu-ray disc formats.[/b]

- k

 

[PHArchivist]

You know I WAS being tongue-in-cheek, of course, but I HAD forotten about that. Thanks for the reminder. And you look like a fellow RPFer and prop GENIUS named Tim.

 

[racprops]

It is a Bulldog trigger, note the slot for the return spring, now IF you were to grind or machine the back section you will cut away the back wall and hit THE SLOT....


Rich


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WoW. :eek Thanks for the pics Karl.. Interesting observations about the front trigger. Until we see the fruits of Mr Coyle's pics I wouldn't be prepared to say either way. The only thing that really leads me to think it might not be is that the groves on the front of the trigger extend all the way out to the edge. The slot on the back and reshaping may have been done to prevent it from interfering with the "real" trigger. Here are some quick snaps I took of a Bulldog trigger I have:





Cheers,

Dave C

--Thanks to Wackychimp for hosting the pics.
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[Noeland]

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I can't beleive they let it get rusty. It must have been stored for a long time in damp conditions. A little oil would have prevented it... [/b]

It's SCREAMING for oil. A little oil would help remove what rust is there too, but she needs to be overhauled like a spinner that's been sitting in the florida sun needed Gene Winfield.

And I can't help but want to run a cloth through that barrel with a little hoppes. hahahaha :lol

 

[phase pistol]

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[temponaut]

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Look carefully at the white wire. Now you see it...[/b]

Now that's odd.

The wires seem to be either obscured (darkened?) or missing in the screencap.

At the bottom of where the wires should be, you can indeed see something that looks as if it could be the ends of the white wires. But these are protruding all the way into the trigger guard area.*

In the photo of the prop, the wires end well above the trigger guard.

What's going on?

:confused


{EDIT} *Could this simply be a reflection of the light?

 

[Blad]

They don't end above the trigger guard, you can see a faint ghost if you lighten the picture.

They may have been disguised with poster paint or something.

 

[temponaut]

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They don't end above the trigger guard, you can see a faint ghost if you lighten the picture. [/b]

I'm talking about the prop in the showcase, not the screencap.

The lower ends of the white wires on the Blaster in the showcase appear to end well above the trigger guard.

In the screencap, what appear to be the ends of the white wires down in the trigger guard may in fact simply be reflections of the light off of the metal.

 

[Blad]

I see what you mean.

I also think you're right about the reflections, amazing what we think we can see if we want to see it.

 

[PHArchivist]

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Look carefully at the white wire. Now you see it...[/b]

Now that's odd.

The wires seem to be either obscured (darkened?) or missing in the screencap.

At the bottom of where the wires should be, you can indeed see something that looks as if it could be the ends of the white wires. But these are protruding all the way into the trigger guard area.*

In the photo of the prop, the wires end well above the trigger guard.

What's going on?

:confused


{EDIT} *Could this simply be a reflection of the light?
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I think its just an illusion. I read the pic that Karl took as having the wire humped up (with the peak of the hump closest to the camera), which would draw the end of the wire higher up on the gun body.

You follow me, right? Lay a string flat on a table, then grab it's center and pull it up, and the ends draw closer together...

No doubt during filming they tucked in as close to the body as possible.

Karl or Rich should be able to answer this easily.


And looking at that screen cap, anyone who thinks that gun was one solid black color is color blind.



Edit/Retraction: Hmmm Looking at the other photos, it does look as if it IS currently tucked in... Hard to say. Maybe there's some "play" in there allowing the wire to be slid back up into its receptacle. Just thinking out loud here...