You have never seen the Blade Runner blaster before - PHOTOS RESTORED

[phase pistol]

Lookin' good, Predicta. :thumbsup

On the real prop, the brighter metal parts (the sides of the buttplate, the unpainted parts of the grip straps) are a bare steel color. The barrels and other "darker" bare metal parts, were close to the color of my titanium watchband.

Since the entire prop is the same age, I think there really are two shades on the gun, not just rust.

- k

 

[temponaut]

That's very nice work, mr.p. :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

 

[racprops]

Very nice work,
Rich

 

[mr.predicta]

Very nice work, the steel looks a little brighter than I think it should,

IN the pictures the gun looks brighter than in person I think the flash from the camera and the sheen from the polished alclad makes it look brighter tha it realy is.I will try and get some shots outside with out the flash.

I will say better to watch me and when I get the new model up and running contact me for parts.

That would be great Thanks.

Say what do you mean by deeper gun butt?

I think the base at the end of the handle may need to be a bit thicker, look at the weight of the metal towards the front of the plate vs your casting,also the back end of the base plate looks contoured with the grip. I will be altering mine again soon and can post pictures of what I mean later.
Thanks again Rich for a great piece of work.

MSL

 

[racprops]

Thanks for yout help and understnding.

Rich

 

[PHArchivist]

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I just recieved my coyle blaster a few weeks ago.I guess it pays sometimes to wait.
now that some decent pictures have surfaced I took the liberty of repainting the piece Richard sent me.

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Looks great but you got to gloss up those grips, man. Drop them in some Future floor wax or take out on a hot dry day and soak them with a heavy, wet, clear gloss paint.


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I was priveleged to examine the prop and take some startling photographs. So strap in, and prepare to be amazed by the Deckard PKD blaster As You Have Never Seen It Before.

Photos are ©2006 Karl Tate, please do not reproduce them without my permission. Thanks.

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Rich, does your trigger guard have any curvature to it (in cross-section)?

Or in cross-section, is it more or less a perfect rectangle?



In this pic of Mr. Predicta's fine example, the trigger guard looks like it is flat on the top and (in particular) bottom surfaces. And (hard to tell from photos) it looks a tad thick.

If this observation is correct, and if you're currently in the process of creating the end all-be all blaster, could you shape up your trigger guard master to duplicate the cross-sectional curvature of the bottom surface of the guard so clearly seen on the original? This would also reduce the thickness somewhat too...


Finally, I can't really tell from the pic if your butt plate is a different thickness (though the original pinky rest does look thicker), but I would concur about the rear edge of yours. Yours seems more or less vertical, or perpendicular tot he surface if the plate as flat on a table. It needs to follow the same contour/line as the grips...

 

[phase pistol]

Speaking of curvy shapes, the buttplate does not have perfectly straight sides either. The curve of the back of the grip is carried down through the sidewall of the buttplate.

Also note how the footprint of the buttplate is not a "round ended rectangle", but rather more of a fat jelly-bean shape.

- k

 

[PHArchivist]

See... Now... I've been tweaking and crafting my post so long now, others are responding.

Phase and Mr. Predicta - hope you don't mind me re-posting your pics within the thread to illustrate points. :$

Rich, if you want, maybe I should copy this info into your Junkyard thread...?

 

[phase pistol]

I don't mind a bit. :lol

- k

 

[racprops]

Yes I am always look for insight and thanks guys.

Some times you can be with something so long you no longer see it, if you know what I mean.

Rich

 

[Darth Infamous]

Mr P- Very nice repaint.
Ya I noticed how the the buttplate curved with rest of the handle. Especially the very back. The buttplate seems to be thicker also. If you look closely at the very back you can see over spray of black where it becomes bare metal. I noticed too the buttplate seems a very silvery color. Like its a different metal used for it.


Carl


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Yes I am always look for insight and thanks guys.

Some times you can be with something so long you no longer see it, if you know what I mean.

Rich
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[phase pistol]

In person you can see that the buttplate sides and other "bright" parts of the blaster look like stainless steel... definitely not chromed and really not that bright at all.

The metal has a rich tone to it... there's rust on the upper part of the receiver and on the triggers and guard, but no rust on the sides of the buttplate.

- k

 

[QuasiOdo]

I'm sitting here in Toronto, looking out of my hotel room window into a rainy, misty night full of lit buildings and neon and getting chills because this city reminds me so much of the visuals of that movie I first saw in 1982 in 70mm. It rapidly became my favorite film- warts and all. Back in the early'90s, I obtained one of Rich's early blasters and it seemed I'd found the Holy Grail. Well, now I feel like I've found it again.
Many thanks, guys.

 

[mr.predicta]

Yes I am always look for insight and thanks guys.

Some times you can be with something so long you no longer see it, if you know what I mean.

Rich



Yeah I think its called eye burn
sometimes you need to walk away from a project for a few days then when you return you see everything wrong with it.
I'm glad I'm not seeing things or misinterpreting the photos

MSL

 

[spinner 44]

I do plan to post a list of newly discovered details using your pictures Phase Pistol, if that is ok for you.

BUTTPLATE
Regarding the buttplate:
-Shape. Phase pistol is absolutely right: seen from the front doesn't have parallel sides, they follow the curve of the grips, so this means the sides are never perfectly perpendicular to the down flat side. The cuvature is present too when seen in profile in the back part. Note too how the front (below the pinky indentation) is angled to the flat base.

-Thickness. It think Richard's repro is ok, per my calculations the total thikness is some 11,5 mm. But the pinky indent should be less pronounced, it's just 1,5 mm.

-Material. I do not think the buttplate is made of steel, but machined from a block of ALUMINIUM. Why? well, the colour its aluminium, the part is full of scratches due manipulation, kind of scratches you'll find in a soft metal , not in steel. And lastly, if it was stell, then if would show rust and oxide and it does not. Plus it makes perfect logic for the propmakers to make this from a block of a softer material than steel and easier to machine.

The same goes for the custom gripframe. It has the same color as the buttplate (where you see the bare metal), and the paint looks gloss black paint rather than blued (aluminium can't be blued) -attedants could you confirm this?. Again it would make sense to make this part from alu: easier to machine, to create, it's not rusted.

COLOR SCHEME
So on the color scheme, I think you'll agree with me:
-Natural Steel. Steyr metal parts (receiver, lever). All Bulldog parts minus the gripframe. Tube that attaches the gun barrel to the ammo clip (the one on front). Gun Barrel. Trigger cover.
-Gloss black. Generaly applied over aluminium casted or machined parts as: drum covers (left and right), custom gripframe, buttplate (but the removed, some stays in the flat part). Plus "laser pointer".
-Bare aluminium. Sides of the buttplate, gripframe where paint is removed (where it meets the buttplate).

The bulldog original gripframe looks dark under the orange grips. http://www.hooverae.com/upload/pics/DSC05534.jpg This may be due it kept the original bluing or because it was painted black as with the rest of the custom gripframe.

More to follow.

 

[Bug Stomper]

It looks like the Steyr bolt was replaced with a custom part that just covers the ejection port. The part swivels with the lever. The "probe" is attached to the new bolt and acts as the forward pivot pin. The Steyr end cap has a slot milled into it's right side and the screw above the Steyr safety switch goes into that slot. The movement of the bolt is thus limited to about 15mm.
The screw below the serial number and the one on the other side are inserted into round holes not open sided slots.

Phase Pistol, can you confirm this so far? Do you know what material the cylinder covers are made of?

Cheers,
Stefan

 

[phase pistol]

Please refer all bolt-related questions to Rich; I am not the expert on that sort of stuff.

- k

 

[temponaut]

Phase pistols don't have bolts.

 

[tain669]

Hey Rich,can you get the bolt handle to look more a darker shade of black.I think it would look really great.thanks :cheers :thumbsup

 

[Darth Infamous]

I would suspect this is going to be the biggest challenge. To make the steyr bolt and reciever the dark blueish/black faded look. It should appear like a metal surface and contradict the painted covers and ammo housing. What to use is the big question in my mind. A tarnish...a stain of some sort on metal. How about an oxide process?

Carl


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Hey Rich,can you get the bolt handle to look more a darker shade of black.I think it would look really great.thanks :cheers :thumbsup
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