Joek3rr
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The first picture looks like it doesn't have notches. But the second picture it does have notches.So you're saying they made the notches during this phase of shooting? Right before this photo?
The first picture looks like it doesn't have notches. But the second picture it does have notches.So you're saying they made the notches during this phase of shooting? Right before this photo?
So you're saying they made the notches during this phase of shooting? Right before this photo?
Some of the Snowspeeder crash was filmed in Norway? I thought all of that was at Elstree?We have the photo evidence of both notchless and notched grips during the Norway shoot, as well as the photo where the grips have fallen off. Logic dictates that the shoot began with the notchless grips glued on, but then they fell off due to the intense cold. The notches and screws (presumably silver, then painted black at least by the time of the publicity photos and the snowspeeder escape scene, some of which was shot on location) were added to solve that problem.
Also note that, in the shot where Luke is knocked off of the Tauntaun, the prop has a proper d-ring and silver screws, which indicates the use of at least two props during the Norway shoot. One with the tri-ring (and no notches/black screws, then later with notches/screws) and one with the d-ring (and silver screws).
The Bespin/studio shoot features the idealized version of the prop As we know it, with the d-ring/notches/black screws. And the Dagobah/studio shoot features essentially the same version, but with the missing red button and the extra screws added to the upper grips. These may well be the same prop, but seen in an increasingly battered and reinforced state by the end of filming. Still up for debate.
Some of the Snowspeeder crash was filmed in Norway? I thought all of that was at Elstree?
I don't see any screws at all on the speeder escape-- I also thought that the close-ups were shot on stage. You could very well be right though.
I think that the only thing we know for sure if that they started with glued grips, they started falling off, so the silver screws were added, and at some point they were painted/sharpied/replaced to be black.
Generally speaking, the glued grips, missing grips, and silver screws seem to be what we see from stuff shot in Norway, and studio stuff is all black screws. That may not be sacrosanct in all cases, but generally speaking, that's what we see.
The spacing is never going to be consistant They didnt have grip guides like we do. We know there are multiple hangers, so knowing they just slapped them on, no way they'll match.
I would love a pic that shows us if the early glued grip versions had six or seven grips.
So the shot that you posted is from Norway?The bluescreen shot of Luke jumping out just before the AT-AT’s foot crushes the speeder was filmed on the stage. But, in Norway, they filmed Hamill scrambling to get out of the smoking, full-sized speeder mockup.
So the shot that you posted is from Norway?
That's an awesome thought! Nice to think that that ring could tie the histories of those two props together! Going to have to try one out for size on my graflex tomorrow.I’m in the yuma/hero tri ring..
The edges look identical to the yuma/hero
I bet they scavenged this tri ring off this graflex since they weren’t using graflex’s in RoTJ
D-ring, silver screws:
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Tri-ring, black screws:
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D- ring, black screws:
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