The Ultimate Ben Obi-Wan Kenobi Real Vintage Parts Lightsaber Group
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ChrisRWars
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Had found contact and intended on purchasing a full engine but alas wrong config. Asked whether there were any spares laying about and that was all she wrote really.. a stroke of luck, however hours and hours of hard work and searching went into this find. It’s never ever easy and I take every find with the utmost gratitude.
I would love to find an entire motor, I really would. I don’t know what’s harder.. surplus stock or the entire thing. Some burner cans would be really great..
But yeah man. I’m stoked, and broke lol
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awesome!For sure. They came separate from an engine, I’d been looking for an engine and stum
Had found contact and intended on purchasing a full engine but alas wrong config. Asked whether there were any spares laying about and that was all she wrote really.. a stroke of luck, however hours and hours of hard work and searching went into this find. It’s never ever easy and I take every find with the utmost gratitude.
I would love to find an entire motor, I really would. I don’t know what’s harder.. surplus stock or the entire thing. Some burner cans would be really great..
But yeah man. I’m stoked, and broke lol
For sure it's hard work and a lot of research. I think the most important might be assiduity in the research. For the story, the last engine find was a 2 hour road trip away from me! and it was on a local second hand website that I used to check once or twice a week. I missed it!!! believe me, not that it's going to happen again, but now I'm watching that website every day!
ChrisRWars
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Yeah you're right about assiduity for sure, particularly with the easier to find stuff.. because things do pop up quite often. I actually wonder how many items are bought from people and used for their actual purpose and not prop building lol! Bet we've missed a few. But man! That would have been an amazing find. I'd definitely keep checking it for sure, you just never know really.
ChrisRWars
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My second time refinishing an Mk1! Very proud of this one. Okay, this is my last post for a while. Getting a bit spammy, sorry all!
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Spam away, never get tired of seeing real vintage Obi parts.
ChrisRWars
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Curators brown antiquing fluid is amazing for windvanes and necks!! Was very nervous applying this patina but suffice to say it turned out just so perfect..
Anyone else use the same product??
Anyone else use the same product??
PadawanLoLo
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Can’t contribute much here in terms of knowledge, hell I’m just learning from these RPF threads and only been doing this for about a month! New member to join the ANH Real Parts Building though, so check me in to that room!!
Now to your question, something I HAVE been referencing is the through rod. I’ve noticed in pretty my every photo where the rod is visible that it appears darkened. Checked in at the local hardware store and they have a darkened gunmetal grey and a black threaded through rod. And for my build I will be using the one that looks better when constructed.
Primarily I like looking in to the emitter and seeing a shaded area rather than a brightened post, no matter how short. So in my mind I’m thinking the gunmetal will look more closely in tone to the balance pipe, but still stand out enough to be recognized in its’ presence. If that babbling makes any sense lol.
PadawanLoLo
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Thank you to those here who’ve given me a warm welcome and answered my questions. Also big thanks to Chaim for getting this all documented for those of us coming along later to learn and to build.
Just started my build, but have a couple of smaller pieces so far, and hoping to get out there and find more. And will be working behind the scenes to dig wherever X seems to mark the spot! There have been some great recent finds and I’ve loved reading about all of the finds and modifications and additional discoveries here in the this thread so thanks again!
Just started my build, but have a couple of smaller pieces so far, and hoping to get out there and find more. And will be working behind the scenes to dig wherever X seems to mark the spot! There have been some great recent finds and I’ve loved reading about all of the finds and modifications and additional discoveries here in the this thread so thanks again!
Things have been very hales centric over here recently, so let's keep it up!
I've been doing commissions recently for weathering. I've been a professional blacksmith and metalworker for over a decade now and patina on steel and iron is one of my specialities.
Here's some before and after of a few beautiful hales I've refinished and created a deep beautiful chocolate brown patina on. The patina is a stabilized oxide that will protect and preserve the body for another 100 years at least, and is based on the actual surface of my personal hales which had aged like beautiful fine wine since it was made in 1915. If anyone has one they'd like me to work on please send me a message!
Enjoy!
Before
After!
And a second one! This one had already been cleaned and blued by my great friend ChrisRWars to protect it!
Before
And after!
I've been doing commissions recently for weathering. I've been a professional blacksmith and metalworker for over a decade now and patina on steel and iron is one of my specialities.
Here's some before and after of a few beautiful hales I've refinished and created a deep beautiful chocolate brown patina on. The patina is a stabilized oxide that will protect and preserve the body for another 100 years at least, and is based on the actual surface of my personal hales which had aged like beautiful fine wine since it was made in 1915. If anyone has one they'd like me to work on please send me a message!
Enjoy!
Before
After!
And a second one! This one had already been cleaned and blued by my great friend ChrisRWars to protect it!
Before
And after!
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I just finished this up today! That second one is actually this grenade. I can't recommend Schrodinger555's patina work (and spacer!) enough. ChrisRWars was also indispensably and enthusiastically helpful on getting this over the finish line.
A big thanks to everyone who helped sort out parts.
Parts:
Armitage Shanks Hot tap
Graflex case d-ring
Genuine booster + booster nut
Genuine clamp + bubbles
Marconi Dat29 ICs/ScottJua's modified washer
Schrodinger555's super awesome clamp spacer
Genuine Mk1
Genuine Derwent balance pipe
Roman emitter cone
Hardware store: 5/16s threaded rod, 5/16s 1" carriage bolt, 2" long coupling nut, 3/32 cotter pins, 1/72 screws.
I'm a firm believer that there was no tape on the clamp. The Death Star shots have all the other clamp markers (silver screws, cotter pins), plus the same visible gunk and no obvious tape. Plus, in the 20something years I've been on the RPF, the answer to "what is this weird texture on this Star Wars prop?" has always been "sloppy epoxy work".
I had a pretty close match with ferric chloride etching and e6000 gunk buildup, but the e6000 wasn't sticking after it dried so I had to try to redo it with superglue, which wasn't as forgiving and accurate. I might give it another go with syringe epoxy in the future.
A big thanks to everyone who helped sort out parts.
Parts:
Armitage Shanks Hot tap
Graflex case d-ring
Genuine booster + booster nut
Genuine clamp + bubbles
Marconi Dat29 ICs/ScottJua's modified washer
Schrodinger555's super awesome clamp spacer
Genuine Mk1
Genuine Derwent balance pipe
Roman emitter cone
Hardware store: 5/16s threaded rod, 5/16s 1" carriage bolt, 2" long coupling nut, 3/32 cotter pins, 1/72 screws.
I'm a firm believer that there was no tape on the clamp. The Death Star shots have all the other clamp markers (silver screws, cotter pins), plus the same visible gunk and no obvious tape. Plus, in the 20something years I've been on the RPF, the answer to "what is this weird texture on this Star Wars prop?" has always been "sloppy epoxy work".
I had a pretty close match with ferric chloride etching and e6000 gunk buildup, but the e6000 wasn't sticking after it dried so I had to try to redo it with superglue, which wasn't as forgiving and accurate. I might give it another go with syringe epoxy in the future.
PadawanLoLo
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So first, great job these look amazing!
Something that is so crazy and blows my mind about Hales is how different they are from one another.
Really great work.
ChrisRWars
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Well, suppose the debate is settled lol
And that Graflex wasn't covered until ESB.
A lot of the things he's "recalled" over the years have been proven false, unfortunately. Still a SUPER important guy in our history, but you have to evaluate everything.
(I do agree there is no cover on the sink knob, though )
A lot of the things he's "recalled" over the years have been proven false, unfortunately. Still a SUPER important guy in our history, but you have to evaluate everything.
(I do agree there is no cover on the sink knob, though
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I think it's time we had The Talk.
People in the film business often do what they do because it's a job. It's a paycheck. They aren't fixated on the details, the way we are.
STAR WARS was made nearly 50 years ago. Some of the people involved in the production have been more than happy to exploit their connection to it for ego-stroking and/or financial gain.
Frankly, it wouldn't be hard to do some cursory prop research in forums like this one, go on convention tours, spout off some BS details about a job from 50 years ago that you barely even remember doing, and then also fabricate some replicas to pass off as "production made by the original set/props decorator" so as to make even more money.
(Mind you, I'm not disputing the notion that the endcap was missing. I'm speaking more broadly.)
People in the film business often do what they do because it's a job. It's a paycheck. They aren't fixated on the details, the way we are.
STAR WARS was made nearly 50 years ago. Some of the people involved in the production have been more than happy to exploit their connection to it for ego-stroking and/or financial gain.
Frankly, it wouldn't be hard to do some cursory prop research in forums like this one, go on convention tours, spout off some BS details about a job from 50 years ago that you barely even remember doing, and then also fabricate some replicas to pass off as "production made by the original set/props decorator" so as to make even more money.
(Mind you, I'm not disputing the notion that the endcap was missing. I'm speaking more broadly.)
ChrisRWars
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I know there's a lot of alleged shady stuff gone on with ubsubstantiated claims to ownership of this and that, claims to know such and such for x gain. I honestly wouldn't want to chime in.
But yes was only speaking on the end cap. I'll still be keeping mine on though
PadawanLoLo
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I noticed “someone” right below that post asked him for a full confirmation that, yes indeed the cap was always off for filming, but as mentioned above his memory is how good? and anyone’s memory that far back is how good? and yeah, maybe on maybe off but like you I will keep mine on.I know there's a lot of alleged shady stuff gone on with ubsubstantiated claims to ownership of this and that, claims to know such and such for x gain. I honestly wouldn't want to chime in.
But yes was only speaking on the end cap. I'll still be keeping mine on though
I found his, paraphrasing here… “AG digging through a bathroom to find a knob” comment to be great comedy and still ringing true lol.
Do we REALLY want definitive answers anyway? What would we have to shoot the **** about if everything was completely known lol. Kidding, we’d all still find SOMETHING lol.
ChrisRWars
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I actually totally agree man!!
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