The Mandalorian (TV series)

[Strikerkc]

I believe it was more of a "might not be dead" thing. Never a definitive statement by Lucas.

Though, it's a fictional story, and he doesn't own it any more. So it can be whatever those making the new stories want it to be.

I'd prefer mace be dead, if for nothing more than he didn't strike me as a man that would have sat out the civil war, or stayed hidden once it was over.

 

[ghostryder]

 

[Strikerkc]

I texted a buddy Friday morning after I watched it and told him spoilers were gonna be ape **** after this one, so he needed to basically not go online. LoL

 

[squirk]

The "...making my way through the galaxy" line?

If Jango ever said anything similar, I'd chalk it up to an error. We call things "universes" to encapsulate "everything in them".

The star trek universe. The marvel universe. The DC universe. The doctor who universe. The star wars universe.

In the case of star wars, internally, it only consists on one galaxy. They never travel outside on the one galaxy. In the books, when the Vong show up, they're so strange because they're from another galaxy.

I think the only "universe" I can think of that ever actually bridges that gap and goes extra galactic is Stargate, when they added the pegasus galaxy. Maybe doctor who?

In AOTC, Jango told Obi-Wan, verbatim, "I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe."

He was almost certainly speaking colloquially - not literally talking about hopping galaxies - but for a series that is so anal about fanboy callouts like this, I am still scratching my head that they would take the effort to make the reference but not validate it.

 

[Treadwell]

I totally should have stayed off social media. No one BLATANTLY spoiled it, but vague "when so and so put on his you know what", and references to Haslab Razor Crest purchasers possibly being mad were enough for my brain to put a couple things together before I could get it to stop.

Reminds me Star Trek IV. I had seen an unfinished print at an exhibitor screening months beforehand, and Friend #1 had somehow also learned about the plot via a leaked script or something. Friend #2 told us both not to mention a single thing about it. I didn't, but Friend #1 simply said "dash A". And that was enough!

 

[Strikerkc]

Solid odds that it's because lucas couldn't even say the names of half his own characters during the prequel series, and the folks he would have written dialogue with wouldn't have noticed the fact that it's limited to one galaxy. And Filoni and Favreu didn't want Boba to sound like some Muppet that doesn't know a galaxy from a universe.

They're saying stuff like "with the windows down" and putting in ice cream makers "cause it's so funny!". They're doing deep cuts for references, but the references are not "deep". I'd just roll with it and not try to read into it.

 

[AnubisGuard]

I'd prefer mace be dead, if for nothing more than he didn't strike me as a man that would have sat out the civil war, or stayed hidden once it was over.

And also, frankly, because they've resurrected too many characters already just because they were "badass." Mace is cool, but after Maul and Fett, let it go.

 

[Strikerkc]

And also, frankly, because they've resurrected too many characters already just because they were "badass." Mace is cool, but after Maul and Fett, let it go.

To be fair though. This show didn't resurrect either. Maul had been around for ages in the cartoons. And mando got out of the sarlac in every version of the EU. They're just running with it.

 

[Psab keel]

And also, frankly, because they've resurrected too many characters already just because they were "badass." Mace is cool, but after Maul and Fett, let it go.

Honestly is Mace really that cool of a character? I love Samuel L. Jackson, but he, like most of the PT Jedi were pretty flat and emotionless and we didn't have anything to go on other than loving the actor who portrayed him.

 

[squirk]

Solid odds that it's because lucas couldn't even say the names of half his own characters during the prequel series, and the folks he would have written dialogue with wouldn't have noticed the fact that it's limited to one galaxy. And Filoni and Favreu didn't want Boba to sound like some Muppet that doesn't know a galaxy from a universe.

They're saying stuff like "with the windows down" and putting in ice cream makers "cause it's so funny!". They're doing deep cuts for references, but the references are not "deep". I'd just roll with it and not try to read into it.

Well, again that’s kind of my point - when Jango said it (or at least, how Morrison read it), he didn’t literally mean he was making his way through the entire physical universe. It wasn’t GL being inaccurate with his terminology. It was Jango using a figure of speech.

Just as you or I might say, “We’re making our way through the world.” We’re probably not saying that we are literally making our way across the entire planet, right?

Anyway, you’re right. I’ve probably spent too much time thinking about this already.

 

[squirk]

Honestly is Mace really that cool of a character? I love Samuel L. Jackson, but he, like most of the PT Jedi were pretty flat and emotionless and we didn't have anything to go on other than loving the actor who portrayed him. The more the writers cheapen death by having the characters constantly cheat it and come back to life, the harder it is to take the story seriously. As much as I'm not a die hard Fett fan, at the least he had protective armor that could have helped him enable his escape from the Sarlacc. Plus the idea had been around for decades before it officially happened on screen this season. Though the constant Lazarus returns these supporting characters get is getting to be too much.

Mace should be dead. He died fighting off a Sith lord. Maul should be dead because Obi-Wan killed him multiple times. (He should have stayed dead in TPM). Fett should be dead too, but his survival seems more plausible to me than the other two.

Mace was badass, but he was also kind of an arrogant prick. Add in the fact that he was a total effing hypocrite at the very end, and I wasn’t totally heartbroken when he died.

And yes, as much as I like what Filoni & Co. did with Maul after his resurrection in terms of characterization, he never should have come back in the first place.

 

[AnubisGuard]

Honestly is Mace really that cool of a character? I love Samuel L. Jackson, but he, like most of the PT Jedi were pretty flat and emotionless and we didn't have anything to go on other than loving the actor who portrayed him.

Same thing as Maul and Fett. Flat characters portrayed by cool actors (or a cool bit of costume in Fett's case) that people want to un-kill so they can star in licenced fanfic as the cool characters they should be. But it just makes death cheap in the Star Wars universe; I mean, Maul was cut in half.

(Maul is by far the worst resurrection; Fett is the most plausible because he just fell in a pit and he had a jetpack. I wouldn't be as bothered by him or even Mace but Maul poisoned the well.)

 

[Psab keel]

At the least I can buy the idea of Fett having armor that would have given him a chance at survival. Mace was electrocuted (likely stopping his heart which is something the fans never want to address and yet always point out his Force abilities) and thrown hundreds of feet out of a skyscraper window. Maul was cut in half and fell down a giant reactor shaft. I'd say both of those deaths are pretty conclusive. All these scenarios end up being is trying to fix the "mistake" of killing them off too early or cheaply. When the fans go gaga over them the writers realize the potential there and have to retcon them back into existence to show them off.

Not that it can't be done and I think Fett's return was handled well. I just start to check out if it keeps happening over and over because then the tension totally deflates.

 

[Toadmeister]

In AOTC, Jango told Obi-Wan, verbatim, "I'm just a simple man trying to make his way in the universe."

He was almost certainly speaking colloquially - not literally talking about hopping galaxies - but for a series that is so anal about fanboy callouts like this, I am still scratching my head that they would take the effort to make the reference but not validate it.

Or maybe we’re over analyzing this...

 

[Psab keel]

Or maybe we’re over analyzing this...

 

[squirk]

Or maybe we’re over analyzing this..

I’m sorry. Are you new here?

 

[squirk]

Same thing as Maul and Fett. Flat characters portrayed by cool actors (or a cool bit of costume in Fett's case) that people want to un-kill so they can star in licenced fanfic as the cool characters they should be. But it just makes death cheap in the Star Wars universe; I mean, Maul was cut in half.

(Maul is by far the worst resurrection; Fett is the most plausible because he just fell in a pit and he had a jetpack. I wouldn't be as bothered by him or even Mace but Maul poisoned the well.)

Agreed. I can’t be 100% positive, but I’m pretty sure I read a quote from Filoni to the effect that he didn’t want to bring back Maul, but it wasn’t his decision, so he made the best of it.

The impression I took away from it (perhaps unfairly) was that Katie Lucas had this "great" idea for bringing back Maul that she whispered in her dad’s ear, and George made Filoni do it.

Those ******* spider legs. Holy ****.

 

[HMSwolfe]

Honestly is Mace really that cool of a character? I love Samuel L. Jackson, but he, like most of the PT Jedi were pretty flat and emotionless and we didn't have anything to go on other than loving the actor who portrayed him.

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[Prop Collector]

Moff Gideon, Boba Fett, Ahsoka Tano... Are we really meant to believe they're going to have some kind of interesting conclusion for all of these threads in 3 episodes?

So... They're doing a pretty good job so far.

 

[Usagi Pilgrim]

Yeah...I wouldn't mind seeing Mace again, personally, but story wise, not at all.

Mace was the epitome of what was wrong with the Order-

Called to be in service to both the peoples of the Republic, & to the will of the Force, he instead sat in his LITERAL ivory tower, deeming his value & worth onto those he found to be beneath him.

Pretty much all you'd need to know is when Anakin tells Mace about Palpatine. Mace's response of "IF what you say is true, THEN, you'll have gained my trust.".

I could see Mace having an arc where he reaches the conclusion that the Jedi grew into something wrong, & changed his opinion, but I feel we've seen that too many times already.

I vote let him live on, but not in The Mandalorian.