The Mandalorian (TV series)

[davewhite152]

I totally agree Michael Biehn was underused.

As for Mando, is the rule that he can never take off his helmet, or he can’t remove it in front of other people? If the former, then we can assume that he removes it to shower and sleep (and eat hard foods?).

Maybe The Watch made up the helmet rule just for Din djarin, b/c their initial reaction to his face was this:
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Just not in front of people. That's why he was able to remove it in front of the droid last season

 

[sztriki]

He also took it off to eat when he was on his own.

 

[Toadmeister]

I totally agree Michael Biehn was underused and Mando leaving without his jet pack was weird.

As for Mando, is the rule that he can never take off his helmet, or he just can’t remove it in front of other people? If the latter, then we can assume that he removes it to shower and sleep (and eat hard foods?).

Maybe The Watch made up the helmet rule just for Din djarin, b/c their initial reaction to his face was this:
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Have you watched every episode? This has been explained.

Your picture from Rick and Marty is spot on funny however!

 

[Toadmeister]

Other than Luke and Ashoka, there is another “Jedi” during that time. We just aren’t privy to where he is.
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Also choosing between the force or not reminds me of this scene from the Japanese samurai film, Shogun Assassin (aka Baby Cart), which the Mandalorian seems to be loosely inspired by.

Is/was he a Jedi however? A Palawan at best.

 

[CopperRevan]

So I'm typing this as I watch it and here are my initial thoughts and observations.

Alcoholism aged Michael Biehn severely. Some of his dialog is literally unintelligable. I rewound it several times and still don't know what he said in some parts.

Rosario Dawson matches what I've seen of Ashoka so I appreciate the visual continuity though her appearance wasn't anything significant to me personally because I haven't watched either of her shows. The Magistrate's dialog and delivery is atrocious. Flat, emotionless and trying way too hard to sound cool. Par for the course with what I've seen with clips from Rebels and Clone Wars.

WHY, WHY WHY is every pilot since TPM hellbent on landing a mile away from their destination? It was really noticeable and annoying in Rogue One, but this drives me absolutely bonkers. It's fast becoming a pet peeve of mine because of it's overuse. Basic logic would dictate you save a LOT of time having to schlep through the muck if you land right beside the gate of your city. If you're going to land that far away you better have a good story reason for it other than to show off your set designs.

Why is the landscaped razed by fire and what is the significance of that oasis in the middle of it? (Ok this is answered at least)

This is the danger of bringing in Ashoka and the Jedi into this. We're rehashing the whole idea of attachment, should (Anakin) I mean Grogu be trained, his fear being a factor. etc. Fear is a perfectly natural feeling that all sentient creatures have and one of the key factors to survival. This is familiar territory and frankly really tired at this point. I do like the fact that he has a reason to know how to do what he does with the Force. Is that picture of Grogu hiding behind the chair in ROTS fan made, or has he been digitally inserted into that movie now?

Plus if Ashoksa survived long enough to see the Rebellion through why was she not fighting alongside Luke, Han, Leia? Maybe that's answered in Rebels so that's not a critique so much as a genuine question.

Why does Mando want to take down the Magistrate? What's in it for him? A staff? If so it seems like the motivation of a video game character who just wants to upgrade his gear and this is a placeholder for actual character development. ie. Consummerism (tm): The Game! This is why I scoffed at the beskar lore in the first season because it was literally the kind of thing you see in a game where the player beats a level and then upgrades their skin (armor) for better stuff to propel the story along without any emotional stakes. I was able to overlook it before because the characters around him have been interesting enough that I didn't bother worrying too much about it, but it's starting to concern me now with the absence of Grief or Cara who I like far more than Din.

Am I watching Clone Wars or Rebels turned into live action now? This is why I've expressed concerns over known characters appearing in this show because Din is merely the vehicle to have an excuse for a cameo now and then. Should we just be honest and nickname this show The Gondolorian? Because he's a ferryman for all the other characters.

Oh there's another one of those cat creatures from Rebels. The Magistrate's facial expressions are making me laugh. It's cool that she's the god daughter of Bruce Lee and the daughter of Don Inosanto but man she's really overselling it.

Why doesn't Mando bring his rifle with him more often? He can literally disintegrate people with it. Seems like it would be really handy.

I'm surprised Mando got Grogu to stay on the ship. The little guy is always intent on following him. Speaking of which, why do they having him purring like a cat throughout this episode? The last one they used a lot of human baby sounds which I think was a smart move on selling him as a sentient character. The cat purring sounds out of place to me because they strike me as a sound they should use for a non sentient being. Just a thought.


Overall:


I was pretty disappointed in this latest episode and with the hints of Thrawn showing up as well as them delving into Jedi lore with Grogu choosing his path, I fear we are treading into all too familiar territory. I'm really not interested in this turning into a live action version of Clone Wars or Rebels.

And the music swells...... and I don't care. Like at all. Overall I've enjoyed the show but there is a real danger that they're going to keep shoving the member berries into a dish best served without them. I've said since before it even premiered that it's strength will be letting it branch out and be it's own thing. While there will be trappings that we know to remind us which universe this takes place in, I worry that it will limit the story potential if they get lost in those things. If that ends up being the case I'll check out and move on.

I initially thought that the show could get overcrowded because i think Mando is still the most intriguing character in the show and should be, but then i asked myself a question. How can we expect the writers to NOT include any legacy characters? I mean really. Do you think after the 2nd Death Star was destroyed and the fall of the empire happened that nobody would hear rumors and legends of Luke Skywalker, General Leia and Han? So the fact to have any continuity at all in the Star Wars Universe and that Mandalorian takes place 5/6 years after ROTJ begs the question of Where is Luke the Jedi? People would be saying the whole show makes no sense if you didn't atleast make mention of them. I believe Filoni and Favreau and all who are contributing to this show are absolutely nailing it!! Best Star Wars anything since ROTJ in my opinion.

 

[Toadmeister]

Nobody seems to have mentioned how visually beautiful this episode was. You can pause it at nearly any point and BAM, you've got a new computer wallpaper. And there were SO MANY Ahsoka pose-down shots. It was gorgeous. A tad gratuitous, at times, but let Filoni play with his toys for an episode.
Some random thoughts I had:
- The antagonists were boring as hell. We know Ahsoka could take the Magistrate. From a distance. They wasted Michael Biehn. Did his character even get a name? Did anyone recognize his armor? It seemed too specifically designed to not be a reference to something.
- Who saved Grogu? I'm guessing it was Anakin. Even during Order 66, and killing some Younglings, I could see Anakin not being able to wipe out all the little children and telling some to get out. Another likely possibility is Jocasta Nu. An UNlikely candidate, but a possibly interesting one, would be that the Grand Inquisitor helped some younglings escape. He started off as a Jedi Temple Guard after all. OR, it'll be some other random Jedi.
- People ask why Ahsoka wouldn't know Luke, but I think it's a lot more likely she knew Leia. Ahsoka was connected to the Rebellion long before Luke was, and she knew Bail personally. I can imagine she'd have met Leia.
- I was expecting them to play coy with Ahsoka, hold off on showing her, maybe she shows up in the last few minutes, but WOW... White lightsabers fighting and full face shots, 35 seconds into the episode (after the recap and logos.)
- Good to see the Harkonnen soldiers getting work after they lost Arrakis.
-A tiny nitpick, but there were two Yodas at the Jedi Temple: Yoda and Yaddle. Ahsoka would have known about her, too.

I’ve seen the Yaddle argument all over the place. Anakin was around 10 when he first encountered Yaddle at the Jedi council. Yaddle may not have been around at all by the time Asoka started her apprenticeship.

So quite plausible Asoka did not “know” Yaddle first hand. Sort of like remembering a school administrator from middle school 30 years ago... heck I don’t even remember most my teachers from back than, I’m about Asoka’s age in the Mandelorian, mid 40s.

 

[Psab keel]

I initially thought that the show could get overcrowded because i think Mando is still the most intriguing character in the show and should be, but then i asked myself a question. How can we expect the writers to NOT include any legacy characters? I mean really. Do you think after the 2nd Death Star was destroyed and the fall of the empire happened that nobody would hear rumors and legends of Luke Skywalker, General Leia and Han? So the fact to have any continuity at all in the Star Wars Universe and that Mandalorian takes place 5/6 years after ROTJ begs the question of Where is Luke the Jedi? People would be saying the whole show makes no sense if you didn't atleast make mention of them. I believe Filoni and Favreau and all who are contributing to this show are absolutely nailing it!! Best Star Wars anything since ROTJ in my opinion.

I'm fine with some references. As long as they don't pull the focus off Mando and all the core characters of this show, which the first season was smart enough to understand. Plus they need to stay away from Luke. Far far away. They've already done enough damage to him.

 

[firesprite]

Yaddle was killed prior to the start of the clone wars in one of the books. As she never appeared in the movies after that, I suspect they're sticking with her having died prior to the conflict.

As to the question of why Ahsoka is out there and not working with the New Republic... she's doing what the Jedi were MEANT to do; going into the universe and helping people in need. The Jedi were never intended to be governmental enforcers. That mindset is a big part of what led to their downfall as it left them vulnerable to Palpatine's manipulations and machinations.

 

[ghostryder]

 

[B-Movie Zombie]

I thought Yaddle was died by the time of the clone wars. Also could the other jedi be a purple lightsaber wielding one? I mean we never saw a body.

 

[cboath]

I thought Yaddle was died by the time of the clone wars. Also could the other jedi be a purple lightsaber wielding one? I mean we never saw a body.

First rule of TV/Movies - no body, no death

I mean, who was in worse shape? Mace or Anakin? And we know Anakin lived.

 

[Psab keel]

No more resurrections.

 

[Prop Collector]

Moff Gideon, Boba Fett, Ahsoka Tano... Are we really meant to believe they're going to have some kind of interesting conclusion for all of these threads in 3 episodes?

 

[Jamesfett]

I totally agree Michael Biehn was underused and Mando leaving without his jet pack was weird.

As for Mando, is the rule that he can never take off his helmet, or he just can’t remove it in front of other people? If the latter, then we can assume that he removes it to shower and sleep (and eat hard foods?).

Maybe The Watch made up the helmet rule just for Din djarin, b/c their initial reaction to his face was this:
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Well he said no living thing can see him without his helmet.

As someone else mentioned does that include trees.

 

[Strikerkc]

No.
Boba fett is likely done with.
Gideon is a long term baddie, so he'll be sone nuseance by the end.
Asoka washed her hands of involvement.

 

[Jamesfett]

Have you watched every episode? This has been explained.

I have.

They have not really. He takes it off in front of a huge window in full view of a bunch of people. He could take it off in the cockpit when the child is asleep in his bunk. Seeing the actual Mandos always taking their helmets off was a contradiction and making him an unknown member of some wacky cult makes him kind of sad.

Not seeing the star is really annoying.

He goes against the entire guild which does not seem to now exist yet he claims he is in it.

He delivers the baby, takes and keeps the payment, and then takes the baby back but does a shtick about not accepting payments for jobs not done, not honorable kills, deals, complains and then changes his own terms, tells frog lady deals off, etc.

They explain and then contradict.

LOVE IT. The inconsistency and dumb decisions just bug me.

 

[Jamesfett]

Never removing the helmet.

It's just stupid. It makes every character in the show called The Mandalorian more interesting. Plus Mando seams to be the most uninformed person in the show or Galaxy. Everyone else knows lots but our hero is insanely ignorant, naive and clueless.

Never heard of the Jedi. Seriously. Has any human on the planet involved with society on any level not heard of Donald Trump or Darth Vader, The United Nations. Please!!!!!!!

I still love it but dang guys. I think our love of this show is more about desperation than it being genuinely good. At best, overall the show quality, writing, character development is okay with major flaws.

If not for the God awful prequels and vomit inducing sequels I doubt we would even like it.

Gonna go stare at all my Mando Merch now.

I am Star Wars' bitch. I accepted it a long time ago.

 

[Jamesfett]

I thought Yaddle was died by the time of the clone wars. Also could the other jedi be a purple lightsaber wielding one? I mean we never saw a body.

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If no one ever dies what is the point.

Love that Mother f&#@^r Jedi as much as the next Motherf#%$R but he needs to stay dead. Let's not get carried away with Jedi powers.

One good line from the prequels.

Anakin-"No one can kill a Jedi."

Qui-Gon "I wish that were true."

 

[Toadmeister]

I have.

They have not really. He takes it off in front of a huge window in full view of a bunch of people. He could take it off in the cockpit when the child is asleep in his bunk. Seeing the actual Mandos always taking their helmets off was a contradiction and making him an unknown member of some wacky cult makes him kind of sad.

Not seeing the star is really annoying.

He goes against the entire guild which does not seem to now exist yet he claims he is in it.

He delivers the baby, takes and keeps the payment, and then takes the baby back but does a shtick about not accepting payments for jobs not done, not honorable kills, deals, complains and then changes his own terms, tells frog lady deals off, etc.

They explain and then contradict.

LOVE IT. The inconsistency and dumb decisions just bug me.

I think your describing Dunn's conflict, not writing inconsistentcy. Dinn is struggling with his identify, what it means to be a Mandelorian and now a father figure.

 

[Sundowner]