Done / Completed TASM2 Suit Kit *closed*

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Do want

I'll be creating one myself. I just have to draw out the brick design and create a screen.

It's a four way stretch lycra that I got from a market. Very very cheap too, I got 2 yards length with a width of 65 inches for like under $5 (It was 160 PHP in the Philippines). So I went ahead and bought blue and red lycra. And now I'm just trying to figure out how to create the brick pattern on the blue

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Oh no, I am not selling this :lol

Thanks for the info!

Update: I will be having some updates on the webs soon using high density inks. The problem we had was trying to get rid of the cake-like texture after the ink raises. However, we solved that by going over the entire HD ink with a matte overprint using some additives.

 

[maffhewdc]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Thanks for the info!.

No problem bro! Just trying to help you out

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern



Great news! My fabric that I will be using from Italy finally arrived. It's a very dark blue, similar to the color of the fabric I am currently using for the screen printed bricks. However, it has a very nice shine and is very thick and will sculpt itself to your overall body.

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

I need a little advice guys.

Excluding the spider symbols, my biggest concern is creating a web pattern that would match up with the entire suit. People suggested I use Ken's pattern, but because of the Raimi-style pelt I chose not to use his (it is a really great pattern though) for the final patterns. I do plan on selling the screen printed patterns and Ken did mention he did not want it used for commercial use so that is another reason why I am back at square one. The only thing I am confident on is testing the inks and getting results.

I'm not sure what to do. If anyone has any experience drawing on a mannequin and reverse engineering the suit, and would like to collaborate with me on designing the suit then please send me a PM.

 

[RiotJavelinDX]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

I'm confused by the "Raimi-style" comment. While he does have a Raimi pattern, he also has a TASM2 pattern.

 

[rentonjosh]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

I need a little advice guys.

Excluding the spider symbols, my biggest concern is creating a web pattern that would match up with the entire suit. People suggested I use Ken's pattern, but because of the Raimi-style pelt I chose not to use his (it is a really great pattern though) for the final patterns. I do plan on selling the screen printed patterns and Ken did mention he did not want it used for commercial use so that is another reason why I am back at square one. The only thing I am confident on is testing the inks and getting results.

I'm not sure what to do. If anyone has any experience drawing on a mannequin and reverse engineering the suit, and would like to collaborate with me on designing the suit then please send me a PM.

Honestly I think that you should go with Kens pattern as its honestly the most accurate one I've seen as of color and design. His belt design is square as seen in the picture and actually looks even more square in person as I've had about six of his suits almost all with different versions of the pattern. this is one of his Web design files. Surely making it easier to create the webbing

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

I'm confused by the "Raimi-style" comment. While he does have a Raimi pattern, he also has a TASM2 pattern.

If I were to screen print the webs with HD ink using his TASM2 pattern, there'd be two thick web lines in the middle area right where there's a split to the neck.

Honestly I think that you should go with Kens pattern as its honestly the most accurate one I've seen as of color and design. His belt design is square as seen in the picture and actually looks even more square in person as I've had about six of his suits almost all with different versions of the pattern. View attachment 482555 this is one of his Web design files. Surely making it easier to create the webbing

His pattern is really great, don't get me wrong. But screen printing wise, it may prove a little difficult. However, I could use his as a base and edit it into something I could use. Thanks for bouncing the idea onto me guys.

 

[RiotJavelinDX]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Ah, valid point, hadn't considered that.

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Ah, valid point, hadn't considered that.

Other than that, it is a great pattern. I do plan on using Ken's spider symbols though.

 

[Lunaman]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Other than that, it is a great pattern. I do plan on using Ken's spider symbols though.

Ken's is a solid pattern, especially for the price of *FREE*, but his pelting is way off--the layout is based on the arrangement of pattern pieces from the Raimi suit and there are a lot of misaligned, misnumbered and misplaced web intersections. It might be worth talking to Jake, McLean, Kino Kaoru, or Anneeyys, as they all either have or are working on patterns with proper pelting.

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Ken's is a solid pattern, especially for the price of *FREE*, but his pelting is way off--the layout is based on the arrangement of pattern pieces from the Raimi suit and there are a lot of misaligned, misnumbered and misplaced web intersections. It might be worth talking to Jake, McLean, Kino Kaoru, or Anneeyys, as they all either have or are working on patterns with proper pelting.

If I ever attempt to screen print my own Raimi suit webbings, I'll be sure to use his.

I'll talk to Jake, McLean, Kino, or Anneeyys if I can't find any helpers in my local area.

Quick question, Luna. I noticed that on a lot of the worn suits, the space between the crotch is too big on the pants area that it appears that there is too much extra space there. Do you think this is due to poor measurement by the seamstress or the person who took their own measurement? How can this be prevented?

 

[Lunaman]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Quick question, Luna. I noticed that on a lot of the worn suits, the space between the crotch is too big on the pants area that it appears that there is too much extra space there. Do you think this is due to poor measurement by the seamstress or the person who took their own measurement? How can this be prevented?

I don't think this is due to poor measurements by the seamstress, just a lack of in-person tailoring and patterns that are all hewing to the same pelting arrangement/sew lines that has slightly short limbs in the standard sewing lines. Ask any tailor about the armpit area on jacket sleeves for example, and they'll reiterate that taking things higher up into the joint gives more mobility than leaving room there does. The same is true for the crotch, it should be taken in fairly high, which many hobby suits don't do.

I think that on some suits this is compounded by having a belt that sits too high. The horizontal belt is placed very low and the front of the suit. Having it too high will make the crotch area seam even bigger.
http://i.imgur.com/I3WRvKt.jpg

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

I don't think this is due to poor measurements by the seamstress, just a lack of in-person tailoring and patterns that are all hewing to the same pelting arrangement/sew lines that has slightly short limbs in the standard sewing lines. Ask any tailor about the armpit area on jacket sleeves for example, and they'll reiterate that taking things higher up into the joint gives more mobility than leaving room there does. The same is true for the crotch, it should be taken in fairly high, which many hobby suits don't do.

I think that on some suits this is compounded by having a belt that sits too high. The horizontal belt is placed very low and the front of the suit. Having it too high will make the crotch area seam even bigger.
http://i.imgur.com/I3WRvKt.jpg

So would it be more advantageous to have a seamstress measure you in person? I ask this because once I get this printing technique down, I'm not sure if I should give a pre-cut set of blue patterns. The red portions will of course have its own set pre-cut patterns considering the web patterns can't be altered once printed.

 

[Lunaman]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

So would it be more advantageous to have a seamstress measure you in person? I ask this because once I get this printing technique down, I'm not sure if I should give a pre-cut set of blue patterns. The red portions will of course have its own set pre-cut patterns considering the web patterns can't be altered once printed.

It's always better to have measurements and tailoring done in person, and ideally every suit would be individually patterned and pelted to fit one specific customer, but we don't live in an ideal world, the reality is that completely bespoke garments are out of the question for most people, not to mention out of the question for the hobbiests providing the material.

I think giving a pre-cut set of blue patterns is fine, as long as people realize that no one-size garment will ever fit them perfectly right out of the gate. If you're working with a good seamstress, they can accomodate your individual tailoring within reason.

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

It's always better to have measurements and tailoring done in person, and ideally every suit would be individually patterned and pelted to fit one specific customer, but we don't live in an ideal world, the reality is that completely bespoke garments are out of the question for most people, not to mention out of the question for the hobbiests providing the material.

I think giving a pre-cut set of blue patterns is fine, as long as people realize that no one-size garment will ever fit them perfectly right out of the gate. If you're working with a good seamstress, they can accomodate your individual tailoring within reason.

Good point. I'll probably have to deal with the fact that I can't please everyone.

Though, I think I will try to have at least 3 body type sizes for the future. Which may probably take me time to cater to buyers with bigger sizes since printing on larger panels is difficult.

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Very tiny update. Our order of a variety of screen printing additives just arrived. We also consulted a few screen printing gurus about approaching high density ink. Look forward to an update some time this month.

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Very unconventional way to create my own pattern. I'm going to be doing a lot of math to convert things.

 

[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

First post updated.

 

[dcutugno]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Anxiously waiting for preview of the kits! Will buy ASAP!


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[kiyominai]

Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Anxiously waiting for preview of the kits! Will buy ASAP!


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I should have an update by next week on the webs (with pictures). I'm just waiting for approval to post the pictures from my partner for reasons I can't disclose.