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Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

I disagree. In this photo you can see a very noticeable difference in how the light hits the black bricks versus the red. The light reflects off the black bricks, but not the red.
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Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

That's. ..very interesting. I'm going to see how that look is achieved.
 
Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Dye sublimation is my best guess. Should be possible considering the type of fabric you're using.

It's a good thing I have notes about it from my Raimi Spider-Man days. Thanks for the lead, Jakemoore.
 
Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

I just talked to a few other people who've seen the suit, and they said that the printing actually does sit on top the red fabric, similar to the ink on the blue fabric. According to Zach Luna, there were some wear and tear on the fabric.



I disagree. In this photo you can see a very noticeable difference in how the light hits the black bricks versus the red. The light reflects off the black bricks, but not the red.
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Gee, can I chime in here? Instead of being third-personed.

The suit definitely used different inks for the red and the blue sections (the brick on the blue being a thick emulsion), but the bricks on the red DO change the way the surface of the suit reflects light. It's hard to capture on camera, but the ink on the red DOES catch catch ambient light a bit. It is, however, more "soaked in" to the weave, leading me to wonder if the red sections used a water based ink rather than the plastisol based inks used on the blue sections. I don't have clear images of the wear and tear areas, since the red brick is hard enough to photograph in the first place, but there were areas that looked like it had worn away. That and the surface sheen and some info I've gleaned from people in the local industry is what informed my conclusion that everything on the suits was screen-printed.
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However, as Jake mentioned, the red portions show a similar appearance as results from dye-sublimation, which can be less of an ordeal to manage. Other suitmakers like Anneys have gotten good results from using dye-sublimation on satin-finish fabric, which would be a fine approach and the one I aimed to take on my own suit.
 
Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

The main reason I'm leaning towards sublimation is because you can still see the knit of the fabric on the brick portions.

Whether or not they actually screen printed the bricks, this look is definitely achievable via sublimation and that's probably a much easier process.
 
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Gee, can I chime in here? Instead of being third-personed.

The suit definitely used different inks for the red and the blue sections (the brick on the blue being a thick emulsion), but the bricks on the red DO change the way the surface of the suit reflects light. It's hard to capture on camera, but the ink on the red DOES catch catch ambient light a bit. It is, however, more "soaked in" to the weave, leading me to wonder if the red sections used a water based ink rather than the plastisol based inks used on the blue sections. I don't have clear images of the wear and tear areas, since the red brick is hard enough to photograph in the first place, but there were areas that looked like it had worn away. That and the surface sheen and some info I've gleaned from people in the local industry is what informed my conclusion that everything on the suits was screen-printed.
(more wordstuff after the pics)

http://i.imgur.com/YE1Bv0f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Wc7zSzX.jpg

However, as Jake mentioned, the red portions show a similar appearance as results from dye-sublimation, which can be less of an ordeal to manage. Other suitmakers like Anneys have gotten good results from using dye-sublimation on satin-finish fabric, which would be a fine approach and the one I aimed to take on my own suit.

Thanks for your chime-in, Zach.

It's going to be difficult to gauge that type of ink or even obtain that type of look. I'm going to look into the water based ink and see if I can mix them with a type of bead.
 
Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

The main reason I'm leaning towards sublimation is because you can still see the knit of the fabric on the brick portions.

Whether or not they actually screen printed the bricks, this look is definitely achievable via sublimation and that's probably a much easier process.

You're right about that, it is a much easier process via sublimation. As a screen printer though, I feel like I need to achieve this despite its difficulties.
 
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You're right about that, it is a much easier process via sublimation. As a screen printer though, I feel like I need to achieve this despite its difficulties.
Haha, your determination is very admirable! :)
 
Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Hey man, what kind of screen printing technique did your screen printer use for the blue fabric? Rubberized?

Also, i tried screen printing the red brick pattern onto my red fabric with basic textile paint and it came out real close to the actual suit.
 
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Hey man, what kind of screen printing technique did your screen printer use for the blue fabric? Rubberized?

Also, i tried screen printing the red brick pattern onto my red fabric with basic textile paint and it came out real close to the actual suit.

I can't reveal too much information without giving away a trade secret, but it is not rubberized at all. It's a mix of some shiny beads and plastisol.

That's really cool! Do you have any images of your red brick pattern? It'd be awesome if you could share it.
 
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Do you have any images of your red brick pattern? It'd be awesome if you could share it.


Well it's mostly just really scratch red spandex fabric which i tried to create a continuous brick pattern on with a 9x12 inch silkscreen. Results were disappointing though since it did not line up. So don't judge it hahaha. But okay, I'll post some pics tomorrow. :) It's pretty late here in my country
 
Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Alright, well here are the pics of my screen printing! :) I used a red ink which I lightened by mixing in a bit of white.


Unstretched:
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And here it is stretched horizontally:
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And vertically:
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P.S. the fabric is a much darker red in person than it looks here in the pics :D
 
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P.S. the fabric is a much darker red in person than it looks here in the pics :D
^Story of my life, mate. :lol

Thanks for sharing the pics, nice looking results. This is a water-based textile ink?
 
Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Alright, well here are the pics of my screen printing! :) I used a red ink which I lightened by mixing in a bit of white.


Unstretched:
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And here it is stretched horizontally:
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And vertically:
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P.S. the fabric is a much darker red in person than it looks here in the pics :D

Do want
 
Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Alright, well here are the pics of my screen printing! :) I used a red ink which I lightened by mixing in a bit of white.


Unstretched:
View attachment 481931View attachment 481932View attachment 481933

And here it is stretched horizontally:
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And vertically:
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P.S. the fabric is a much darker red in person than it looks here in the pics :D

Thanks for sharing this. Great results have been had I see.

Quick question, what kind of fabric are you using?
 
Re: TASM2 - Screen Printed Webbing, Spider Symbols, and Brick Pattern

Thanks for sharing this. Great results have been had I see.

Quick question, what kind of fabric are you using?

It's a four way stretch lycra that I got from a market. Very very cheap too, I got 2 yards length with a width of 65 inches for like under $5 (It was 160 PHP in the Philippines). So I went ahead and bought blue and red lycra. And now I'm just trying to figure out how to create the brick pattern on the blue :)

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Oh no, I am not selling this :lol
 
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