Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Pre-release) (Spoilers)

[seelsa73]

I don't mind that,but if everything always revolves around a Skywalker or a Solo that would be a tad boring don'tcha think? like if everydamn movie is centered on a certain desert planet that seems to have problems noticing people of certain names always hanging around (you can almost cue Superman music and his "disguise" of a pair of glasses)

I wouldn't mind Kylo being a Vader clone gone wrong,I could even buy him being a Palpy clone,I can even see someone of the original cast having kids but let's have them be in a position to be in the background while someone new steps up.

I was with you till the last sentence. The numbered films have always and will, and should, always feature a Skywalker, because it's the Skywalker story.

Outside of VII, VIII, IX, etc. is where you will get the story of the rest of the galaxy. Unless, as I'm starting to worry might be the case, they decide to drop the numbers from the main story altogether. In that case...who knows.

 

[Bryancd]

Kylo is a Solo/Skywaler with 95% certainty.

 

[Jaitea]

How lame would it be if they announce that Tatooine was renamed Jakku after the Hutts left/died & new crime lords took over

J

 

[Bryancd]

How lame would it be if they announce that Tatooine was renamed Jakku after the Hutts left/died & new crime lords took over

J

Very, so they won't. Best guess is Jakku is at least partially populated by Imperials left stranded there for the past 30 years.

 

[Jaitea]

Yeah I'm thinking not either

There are people seriously thinking about it,....comparing homesteads, clothing etc

One thing Ive read them pointing out are vaporators.....but the way I see it,....you can have a Ford tractor on any farm in the world......just because theres the need to farm water using vaporators on Tatooine,....doesn't mean that that equipment wouldn't be sold to desert planets around the galaxy,...the same goes for Landspeeders,.....do the new XP-38's go on sale only on a barren Tatooine?

How about Jawas?,.....are they like cockroaches which appear on many planets picking up scrap?

J

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

How about Jawas?,.....are they like cockroaches which appear on many planets picking up scrap?

J

If it's like every SW game in the past 10 years, then yes there are Jawas on every planet with sand... No one can apparently scavenge parts except Jawas in the Lucas Arts universe. I hope that stereotype crap changes.

 

[PoopaPapaPalps]

....I can even see someone of the original cast having kids but let's have them be in a position to be in the background while someone new steps up.

This.

This. So. Hard.

...The numbered films have always and will, and should, always feature a Skywalker, because it's the Skywalker story...

That I can't agree with, sorry. The originals were Luke's story; he had a clear beginning, middle, and end to his arc. Nevermind their execution, but the Prequels were warranted because of the OT's nature with being renamed IV, V, VI. Of course it would be about the man partially responsible for the creation of the events in the OT.

With the new set of movies, it should be about the changing of the guard, Luke stepping down and handing over the reigns to a new set of kids to a new set of problems rather than to their kids with the same but glossed up versions of the old problems.

 

[LrdSatyr8]

The trilogy of trilogies is actually the stories of R2 and 3P0... they should always be in the movie!

 

[Bryancd]

Just thinking some more about Rey. Another reason I can't see her being Luke's daughter is I don't see Luke being an absentee father. I can see him going into exile after his attempt to restart the Jedi Academy ends in a massacre by the knights of Ren but I don't see any utility putting what must be his very young daughter on a planet where she has to struggle to survive. Rey's existence on Jakku seems pretty sparse.

 

[kristen jones]

Just thinking some more about Rey. Another reason I can't see her being Luke's daughter is I don't see Luke being an absentee father. I can see him going into exile after his attempt to restart the Jedi Academy ends in a massacre by the knights of Ren but I don't see any utility putting what must be his very young daughter on a planet where she has to struggle to survive. Rey's existence on Jakku seems pretty sparse.

I agree... to a point. But if you consider that he may have put her there to both protect her and keep his existence a secret... sort of how he realized that his accompanying Han and Leia on the mission to Endor was endangering it because Vader could sense his presence. Maybe Luke *had* to isolate her, in order to keep her force-sensitive nature secret from a certain someone who is obsessed with emulating Vader...?

 

[Bryancd]

I agree... to a point. But if you consider that he may have put her there to both protect her and keep his existence a secret... sort of how he realized that his accompanying Han and Leia on the mission to Endor was endangering it because Vader could sense his presence. Maybe Luke *had* to isolate her, in order to keep her force-sensitive nature secret from a certain someone who is obsessed with emulating Vader...?

Yeah, that would be the only reasonable explanation to put her on such a backwater world. Her response to Maz's question of "Who are you?" "I'm nobody" is really intriguing. She clearly IS somebody but is she a blank slate struggling to embrace her destiny or is she Luke's daughter in denial of her lineage?

 

[kristen jones]

Dunno... I'm inclined to think that she has no practical knowledge of her power or destiny... I think she has grown up with abilities, but doesn't understand what they mean, or have any grasp of her importance or potential.

But then what do I know? LOL

 

[Bryancd]

Dunno... I'm inclined to think that she has no practical knowledge of her power or destiny... I think she has grown up with abilities, but doesn't understand what they mean, or have any grasp of her importance or potential.

But then what do I know? LOL

That's where I am on this as well.

 

[kristen jones]

Alternately, it may be a "Hanna" situation... I.E. she has been *extensively* trained... and conditioned to give off the notion that she is "No One" on purpose until it's time for her to be called upon.

Either one could work, and be cool I think.

I really don't think the latter is the case, though. I'm inclined to believe "The Force is calling to YOU..." is Leia making Rey aware of her destiny...to which rey may have asked "But how...? What must I do...?" to which--again I think it's Leia--replies "Just let it in."

 

[Bryancd]

Alternately, it may be a "Hanna" situation... I.E. she has been *extensively* trained... and conditioned to give off the notion that she is "No One" on purpose until it's time for her to be called upon.

Either one could work, and be cool I think.

I really don't think the latter is the case, though. I'm inclined to believe "The Force is calling to YOU..." is Leia making Rey aware of her destiny...to which rey may have asked "But how...? What must I do...?" to which--again I think it's Leia--replies "Just let it in."

That's Maz saying that line, not Leia. It takes place during the Force vision sequence I believe.

 

[kristen jones]

That's Maz saying that line, not Leia. It takes place during the Force vision sequence I believe.

It could be... though I believe "Who are you?" is Maz... and "The Force is calling to YOU" doesn't sound like the same person/being to me at all. That sounds like Carrier Fisher to me. Of course I could be wrong... but that it what I think ATM.

 

[Bryancd]

It could be... though I believe "Who are you?" is Maz... and "The Force is calling to YOU" doesn't sound like the same person/being to me at all. That sounds like Carrier Fisher to me. Of course I could be wrong... but that it what I think ATM.

I'm almost 100% certain that is Lupita. Actually come to think of it the "Who are you?" might be Captain Phasma, again the context is confusing intentionally. But I do feel that it's Maz after that.

 

[gizmo]

So do you think the "flashback" scene may happen when Han is telling Finn and Rey about the Jedi in the trailer. It would make sense to tell the backstory of Luke setting up the academy at that point.Especially if they are trying to find him and Han says he's gone into hiding.


Ben

 

[Bryancd]

So do you think the "flashback" scene may happen when Han is telling Finn and Rey about the Jedi in the trailer. It would make sense to tell the backstory of Luke setting up the academy at that point.Especially if they are trying to find him and Han says he's gone into hiding.


Ben

Based on what I've read it occurs in the Castle and is induced by Maz. I think Maz is an ex Jedi.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Just thinking some more about Rey. Another reason I can't see her being Luke's daughter is I don't see Luke being an absentee father. I can see him going into exile after his attempt to restart the Jedi Academy ends in a massacre by the knights of Ren but I don't see any utility putting what must be his very young daughter on a planet where she has to struggle to survive. Rey's existence on Jakku seems pretty sparse.

I agree... to a point. But if you consider that he may have put her there to both protect her and keep his existence a secret... sort of how he realized that his accompanying Han and Leia on the mission to Endor was endangering it because Vader could sense his presence. Maybe Luke *had* to isolate her, in order to keep her force-sensitive nature secret from a certain someone who is obsessed with emulating Vader...?

That was what I was thinking about her. Plus I would think that if Luke had to do that he would have left a guardian to watch over her. I doubt he would leave her in a dangerous position under the premise of protecting her. It wouldn't take her out of danger, just place her from once instance into another.