Star Wars Ahsoka (tv series)

[Jodo]

I don’t understand why this stuff has to be shoe horned in, regardless. When you have the power of writing, you can literally just put the characters somewhere else.

 

[blewis17]

When you have the power of writing, you can literally just put the characters somewhere else.

...they did that once, and Palpatine ended up on Exegol

 

[Rexermus]

The actual canon never stated he was on Endor, just that he was at the Battle of Endor along with Hera. He could have been on the Ghost among the many other ships.

The script reads:

Hera fought in the battle of Endor, as did Commander Rex.

And if you want to take the Galaxy of Adventures shorts as having any sway on the canon, then canonically Rex did serve alongside the Pathfinders on surface but he wore his trademark gauntlets making him visually distinct from Nik Sant

Of course it's a sizable *IF* as there's nothing else that depicts Rex during the Battle of Endor and Galaxy of Adventures isn't necessarily intended to be canon depictions

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

And if you want to take the Galaxy of Adventures shorts as having any sway on the canon, then canonically Rex did serve alongside the Pathfinders on surface but he wore his trademark gauntlets making him visually distinct from Nik SantView attachment 1749678View attachment 1749677

Of course it's a sizable *IF* as there's nothing else that depicts Rex during the Battle of Endor and Galaxy of Adventures isn't necessarily intended to be canon depictions

The Galaxy of Adventure shorts are problematic because they are highly revised retelling with artistic interpretation. You can easily watch any of those videos and see things that didn’t play out as you see on screen. So if they these minor details conflict with known canon materials, they really can’t be canon can they?

In these scenes you can see the armored rebel in the same location as Nik should be however even Filoni himself says that Nik and Rex are different people. In that same video, there is a beaded man who looks to be either Rex or Nik posing next to Han and other rebels in the.briefing room but Nik nor Rex was never seen in the briefing room. No one in the video identifies the individual as Rex in any scene, so why can’t it just be Nik has his own inaccurate armor for this retelling? After all, Han has a pointed roll collar shirt on in the briefing room which is not the case in the movie. If we are going to pick up on various different clothing elements, then maybe that is not Han in the briefing room. Maybe it’s Indiana Jones. See what I mean by problematic.

Most likely the person doing these animations did exactly what I said, they heard half the story and ran with it. But like it has been said before there really is no real info other than at the battle of Endor. He could have been on a ship, or just out of sight on the ground.

 

[Rexermus]

The Galaxy of Adventure shorts are problematic because they are highly revised retelling with artistic interpretation. You can easily watch any of those videos and see things that didn’t play out as you see on screen. So if they these minor details conflict with known canon materials, they really can’t be canon can they?

In these scenes you can see the armored rebel in the same location as Nik should be however even Filoni himself says that Nik and Rex are different people. In that same video, there is a beaded man who looks to be either Rex or Nik posing next to Han and other rebels in the.briefing room but Nik nor Rex was never seen in the briefing room. No one in the video identifies the individual as Rex in any scene, so why can’t it just be Nik has his own inaccurate armor for this retelling? After all, Han has a pointed roll collar shirt on in the briefing room which is not the case in the movie. If we are going to pick up on various different clothing elements, then maybe that is not Han in the briefing room. Maybe it’s Indiana Jones. See what I mean by problematic.

Most likely the person doing these animations did exactly what I said, they heard half the story and ran with it. But like it has been said before there really is no real info other than at the battle of Endor. He could have been on a ship, or just out of sight on the ground.

That's why I reiterated that it's a big if. Also, Han's collar being drawn a little differently to the actual pattern Harrison wore on set isn't the same as adding a completely new element, that itself is clearly Clone armor. The artist's 100% intended for the character to be Rex (they could have also been trying to merge the characters but it still is definitely Rex at the very least), but like I said, it being a canonical depiction of Rex's involvement in the Battle is basically worthless but actually exists beyond "Yes he participated"

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

That's why I reiterated that it's a big if. Also, Han's collar being drawn a little differently to the actual pattern Harrison wore on set isn't the same as adding a completely new element, that itself is clearly Clone armor. The artist's 100% intended for the character to be Rex (they could have also been trying to merge the characters but it still is definitely Rex at the very least), but like I said, it being a canonical depiction of Rex's involvement in the Battle is basically worthless but actually exists beyond "Yes he participated"

Right, it’s basically an artist interpretation because he is also where Nik is. So the artist intended for Nik and Rex to be the same person which is untrue to canon because nothing has ever been established that they are. Therefore if the short conflicts with canon, it can’t be canon.

 

[Bloop]

now wait.. clones could take out an entire temple full of Jedi and just because of sheer volume of fire? No force bubbles? no Pulling down the Temple ceilings on the soldiers? no Temple defenses? no force push or force healing or force invisibility, just blind Jedi arrogance and surprise? maybe i just unraveled too much here. That was even George writing.. at the time that was believable.

I agree, even with Lucas writing the prequels, you still had things that didn't really make sense. I think he rushed a lot of things in 'Episode III,' trying to wrap everything up in the final film of the trilogy - Order 66, Palpatine turning into the Emperor, Anakin & Kenobi's fight, Anakin becoming Vader, Luke & Leia born, Padme dying - just a lot going on for one film. But compared to 'Ahsoka,' at least he actually did wrap things up and had an actual ending. True, it still felt like it was leading into 'Episode IV,' but that was the whole point of the prequels. 'Ahsoka' is a filler series that starts nowhere, goes nowhere, and ends in virtually the same place it began. Filoni could've just condensed all this into the first half-hour of the theatrical film he's making and would probably have had a stronger story.

I wonder how (or even if) he's going to try to bring people up to speed on what happened in 'Ahsoka,' plus the animated series that came before that, in his new film. The potential moviegoers that will go to see theatrical releases are a broader group than those that are die-hard fans of the animated shows or even these live-action shows Disney is pumping out. They can't just expect that a film that bears the Star Wars name will only get fans that know everything that happened in the whole "canon" Star Wars Expanded Universe. That's not really Disney's business model. They want as many people to see their films as possible, and that incudes hardcore fans as well casual ones. Films should stand on their own, to some degree. They should tell a concise story even if it's part of a larger one, and not leave the viewer thinking, "did I miss something?" I don't see how Filoni's film will be able to do that. I guess the opening crawl is going to do some heavy lifting...

 

[sbaxter]

I dont think they could even write a legitimate unbeatable Thrawn if they wanted to. They really need a true established author to write a plot involving some tactical military genius smarter than anyone. Or ask Zahn to co-write the story...??

I know that Zahn did consult with Filoni, at least when they brought Thrawn into Rebels.

SSB

 

[joberg]

i just watched the final episode of Ahsoka... gosh. Its not really re-watchable in my view.
WHAT HAPPENED??

I am really stumped by what exactly happened in 8 episodes. Was this a story that mattered in the whole of the SW universe?
I guess i have some final takeaways.
1. Ahsoka is as broody as the new Luke. She is not even the main character in her own show... Is this before or after the Mando thing? I assume its after. ? I forgot to read the crawl. it doesnt explain anything or any reason anyone would assume Thrawn survived.. maybe the night sisters leaked it? Maybe i missed it in the show. Not surprised.
Ahsoka is boring. She spends the whole series deciding if she wants to be Sabines master again because of something that happened that others just hint at. But wait... see point 5.
2. The story is a lame duck. Apparently the whole plot is designed to set up whatever is next because it fails on many levels.
3. Every reunion is not even an event. Sabine sees Ezra and they try to play it off? after all Sabine has gone through? WHAT? Then Ezra sees Hera and again... no reactions?? They act like they are seeing someone from high school they are not exactly happy is at the reunion. "Oh, its a stormtrooper? Why is he here? Are you sure thats even a stormtrooper? oh, its Ezra. Wait, is Ezra a stormtrooper now? I guess don't shoot him cuz he smiled at us."
4. Thrawn. Is he dumb now? or just doesnt care? Gosh he's boring, too!
5. So Sabine is learning to be a jedi, but she isnt... she has no master because they are girl fighting over something and neither wants to talk about it because girl stuff. But wait.. Sabine all of a sudden can use the force? And now shes a better fighter than the previous 7 episodes? What? She can force push Ezra to the SD minutes later than she had to all of a sudden call a saber to kill a zombie Deathtrooper? Oh its that easy now? And she could do all that after episodes earlier only being told to try to use it because her ex-master wasnt interested in teaching her anything. What?
6. Baylan.... where did he go????? He just all of a sudden decides his own padawan or mentee or whatever apprentice should just follow her own path because they were now on different paths.. for some reason. Then he is gone from the series until the last scene he has where he is alone.... like Luke.. looking out from some empty place.. he doesnt even know who he is either now? what??
7. Shin. Shin gets beat in her last duel.. or more properly, let go... and she rides off.. then she is gone from the series until.... we see her sitting on top of a hill with her lightsaber raised and others see it and thats ALL?? why did we even care about this character? does she even know who she is either?
8. Morgan... she was not even a formidable obstacle. she was going to die. she was the means to some information. big deal.
9. Huyang. Best Character in the whole show. Funny. Informative. Helpful.
10. Chopper. Runner up for best character. And he was in .... what... 10 scenes?
11. Hera and the rest of the Republic slash rebels... why? They just flounder for a few episodes and show up when its already over and dont do anything except argue a lot and uncover some information. Sure they find Ahsoka... then hand her off and then gone again. They could have used literally any character for this.. even made up a new one.. and it would have been the same.
12. 3P0... cameo much? could have been Jar Jar depending on how long Gungans live. Wait, Leia is a senator again? AFTER the fall of the Death Star 2? What planet does she possibly represent? .. i digress..

Did i miss anyone?

OK So after alllll that... what did happen here?
we met some new characters. we saw about a dozen force wielders without wielding the force for much of anything except for like standing in a circle with some floating electrical balls. we went to another galaxy. we saw space whales. we saw a lot of people arguing and not training. we saw that Huyang can probably make 5000 lightsabers with his knowledge and parts. we saw a lot of spaceship repairs that anyone can do without spare parts. we saw an escape room of a map that leads to somewhere that was destroyed so no one else can have it. we found Ezra is not dead and returned him while exchanging Ahso and Sabine to the new Ewok planet with 2 parted-ways sith on it, plus a bunch of night sisters. we saw zombie stormtroopers, and none of them were force pushed off the cliffs. we saw characters ho have no idea who they are so why should we care who they are at this time? we saw Thrawn is completely unthwarted in his attempts to get back to the main galaxy. we saw a huge hyperspace ring. cool. Ezra brings news of a lesser Thrawn to the republic.

thats all i got. and thats a 4/10.

The battle scene with Ashoka are soporific at best...the lack of effort/emotions, in her face, battling adversaries are a major turn-off for me also.
Next battle scene I'll watch will be Ashoka chewing gum while wielding her light sabers

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

 

[Psab keel]

Prince Adam wore it better.

 

[edge10]

I know that Zahn did consult with Filoni, at least when they brought Thrawn into Rebels.

SSB

Zahn: Yes, the check cleared, you can use Thrawn. /consult complete.

 

[NakedMoleRat]

The series didn’t answer a single question. And nothing was resolved other than to bring Ezra home.

That being said, episode 5 was the single best thing that Disney Wars has produced.

 

[MadCardigan]

Does anybody know what blaster Thrawn is wearing in the show? I don’t think he used it or even drew it. Wonder if there’s any BTS photos of it out there…

 

[The 48th Ronin]

Does anybody know what blaster Thrawn is wearing in the show?

A member thinks they may have identified the base gun as a pellet pistol - see their post here:

Ashoka - Props and background items ID

 

[MadCardigan]

A member thinks they may have identified the base gun as a pellet pistol - see their post here:

Ashoka - Props and background items ID

Amazing, thanks!

 

[Halliwax]

Yep that's one the things that stretches the credibility of TCW for me these days. Like when you watch Episode III.(or the line edited and approved by George, novelisation.) You know that Anakin didn't have apprentice. That Anakin didn't duel Dooku every month. Or that Obi-Wan has even met General Grievous, let alone fought him on numerous occasions. Or that Darth Maul is alive and causing havoc. But TCW would like to act like it's higher and more authoritative then the films. And then these issues are compounded, because they survive past Episode III....

It's crazy how the show made after the films doesn't bridge the gap as nicely as the project that was made concurrently.

But maybe I'm making to much of continuity?(I have some more thoughts on this subject I might post later.)

It always bothered me when Anakin meets gervious on the control bridge, they talk like they haven’t met in years.. or it was their first time meeting

 

[CadetTK2386]

It always bothered me when Anakin meets gervious on the control bridge, they talk like they haven’t met in years.. or it was their first time meeting

Anakin actually never encounters Grievous over the course of the TCW, due to that line. Ahsoka, Obi-Wan, and others meet and fight him, but in order to preserve the accuracy of that line, Dave actually did make sure that Anakin and Grievous never met Face to Face, i person, over the course of the show.

 

[Halliwax]

Anakin actually never encounters Grievous over the course of the TCW, due to that line. Ahsoka, Obi-Wan, and others meet and fight him, but in order to preserve the accuracy of that line, Dave actually did make sure that Anakin and Grievous never met Face to Face, i person, over the course of the show.

I could have I sworn they do… because that was the first thing I thought of

Did they space battle together or something?

 

[Joek3rr]

It always bothered me when Anakin meets gervious on the control bridge, they talk like they haven’t met in years.. or it was their first time meeting

I could have I sworn they do… because that was the first thing I thought of

Did they space battle together or something?

Anakin doesn't actually meet Grievous. They make a big deal in BTS videos about making sure they never met. But they didn't care about anything else. Episode III's dialogue strongly implies that Obi-Wan and Grievous only know each other on reputation. And they certainly never have dueled before. Nor has Obi-Wan seen Grievous' little party trick with the four arms.

But TCW tosses that all that continuity out. But maybe it's mistake to think of everything existing on single continuity. Maybe everything just loosely connected together? Something like the Bond films. But they really exist only in their own continuities? Or perhaps the newest releases is the more "canonical" version, retconning previous version of the story?