stevielewis
Sr Member
She's beautiful! Nice painting. 
Star Trek USS Centaur studio scale
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Little Angel
New Member
The black wash is "Cel Vinyl", originally used in painting animation cells. Wet the surface first and then lightly brush the surface and let the water attract the vinyl into the cracks.
Little Angel
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stevielewis
Sr Member
Thank you so much for this reply. I will look for this product to complete my build.
Millenniumf
Sr Member
Wow, this thread is amazing!! I'm so glad that I can avail myself of it because I've always had an affinity for this little ship. I'm going to get the kits together and try to make my own kitbash of this vessel. Thanks so much to all those who have added to this thread with useful information!
stevielewis
Sr Member
I have yet to find the "Cel Vinyl" paints recommended. Is there a place to get them?
stevielewis
Sr Member
Good luck in finding all the parts needed. The kits are still available but the prices on some are getting pretty high. Post your completed build here when you finish.
Millenniumf
Sr Member
Certainly. I actually have a lot of the parts already, or at least close approximates, in my parts bins. I have a whole Reliant already, plus an Excelsior that's built up which I don't mind sacrificing now that I have a Round 2 one. Only thing I think I'm missing are the K'Tinga and Raider kits.
Barnstormer
Well-Known Member
The K'Tinga and Raider can be found. The big jet was the hardest one to pin down, and I think I still need one kit before I have everything.
I remember ages ago, a miniature-games store near me used to carry Cel paints. Haven't tried in ages - at this point so much animation, even 2D animation, is done digitally that I don't know if it's still made.
I remember ages ago, a miniature-games store near me used to carry Cel paints. Haven't tried in ages - at this point so much animation, even 2D animation, is done digitally that I don't know if it's still made.
Barnstormer
Well-Known Member
...and honestly, if you found a new 'cel paint,' that may not be the same formula or behavior...
stevielewis
Sr Member
That is true but I'm willing to give it a try. I still have a second Centaur model that isn't painted yet so I could experiment on it.
Millenniumf
Sr Member
Yeah, I think I might even have the K'Tinga in my storage unit, and the Raider isn't too expensive.
They still sell cel paints at specialty art stores, because traditional animation is still done by hobbyists. You can probably find it on Google.
Little Angel
New Member
Cel Vinly can be something like this:
Toon Tones Vinyl Acrylic Animation Paint 4oz (Brown) : Amazon.co.uk: Home & Kitchen
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Toon Tones Vinyl Acrylic Animation Paint 4oz (Brown) at Amazon UK.
www.amazon.co.uk
Little Angel
New Member
The sad thing a little while ago was me recycling a stack of cels and getting rid of my pegboards...
stevielewis
Sr Member
It seems all the places that sold "Cel Vinyl" here in the States no longer sell it. I'll have to look in specialty art stores as Millenniumf suggests.
Millenniumf
Sr Member
Yeah, actually wanted to mention another thing, which is they still teach traditional animation techniques at art schools, so I know it's possible for students at least to get cel vinyl. If Google and art stores turn up nothing, you might call up a local art college (for a sufficiently broad definition of the word "local") and ask if they have a traditional animation class, ask for the professor's name, then give them a call.
stevielewis
Sr Member
Thanks for the suggestion. I had not thought of that.
Little Angel
New Member
You could experiment with any "plastic" or acrylic style paint. We used Cel Vinyl as it was available, cheap and worked well with its dispersal with water... you try a black acrylic paint, but cel vinyl was very liquid out of the bottle so you may have to experiment with the consistency on some unimportant plastic model piece...
Millenniumf
Sr Member
I want to say, this stuff looks almost exactly the same as Apple Barrel craft paint thinned in water and dish soap. I use it as a cheaper alternative to washes and it isn't easy to keep it from looking like the Centaur/Buckner weathering, but it'll behave like that if you're not careful. Here's some examples that I missed when I weathered my Bandai Millennium Falcon:
You could give this a try, maybe add more paint than I did, and see if it'll work to replicate the look.
You could give this a try, maybe add more paint than I did, and see if it'll work to replicate the look.
Barnstormer
Well-Known Member
Acrylic washes are my bane. Older paint formulas used to behave really differently (much better for washes) but the 'tidermark' look is REALLY difficult to escape using the same techniques I used to use.
