Studio Scale B-Wing Starfighter Build Thread

Great to see those engines in place:cool::cool:(y)(y):love::love: Are you going to vacu-form the wings as well?
The main wing will be vac-formed, but the two side wings are kit parts, so using those parts there. What I’ve got left to vac-form is:
  • Upper neck, port and starboard
  • Upper neck “collar”, port and starboard
  • Main wing “collar”, port and starboard
  • Main wing, port and starboard
  • Main wing gun shroud, top and bottom
  • Wing gun shrouds, port and starboard
Overall that’s 8 bucks I need to still make for 12 shells. I have scale patterns for 5 of them so far, which handles 8 of the shells, and will start making them this weekend. I have travel to Chicago most of next week, so trying to get ahead of that as much as I can. I’m bringing some tools with me so I can work on the remaining patterns after work in the hotel.
 
The main wing will be vac-formed, but the two side wings are kit parts, so using those parts there. What I’ve got left to vac-form is:
  • Upper neck, port and starboard
  • Upper neck “collar”, port and starboard
  • Main wing “collar”, port and starboard
  • Main wing, port and starboard
  • Main wing gun shroud, top and bottom
  • Wing gun shrouds, port and starboard
Overall that’s 8 bucks I need to still make for 12 shells. I have scale patterns for 5 of them so far, which handles 8 of the shells, and will start making them this weekend. I have travel to Chicago most of next week, so trying to get ahead of that as much as I can. I’m bringing some tools with me so I can work on the remaining patterns after work in the hotel.
Wow...quite the vacu-form list:eek: I can already see the maid, cleaning your hotel room after your stay: " Wood shavings on the floor?":lol:
 
I decided to remake the rear mounting plate for the engines. I wasn't happy with the gaps around the edges on the starboard side where the plate met the housing, and it was my third time trying to move the mount points for the engines, so I scrapped it and started over. I think I did a better job this go round of making sure things were spaced properly, and far fewer gaps -- nothing that can be easily fixed with a little vasoline and putty.

Here's the first layout after fitting the engines for spacing.
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I now shifted gears slightly to figuring out how I was going to center the aluminum center mounting block to the rear engines. I opted to create a sleeve that is fit around the end of the mounting block but with a hole through the back to thread in a mounting rod. The notch on the top is accomodate a bottom-mounting block that the wing hinges will attach to.
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I also cut some ABS plate up to get mounted underneath the aluminum block, specifically to provide the aforementioned location to mount the hinges to for the wing mounts.
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Here it is test-fitting the position of where I calculated it should be (this is upside down of the final mounting position).
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After this initial test fit, I took a bunch of measurements to verify that the mounting block threads would be in the proper location -- and found that it was going to mount ~.2" too far toward the engines. To address this, I buffered out the back of the sleeve by .2" and drilled a 1/2" hole through it to allow the rod to thread in. I then drilled a hole through the engine mounting plate, squared it up to the sleeve, and glued the sleeve to the back of the engine plate.
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Here you can see the buffer plate inside the sleeve.
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I wanted to test fit the engine housings around the mounting blocks, to again check mounting locations and ensure things were lining up, so I marked where the ABS block would poke through the bottom of the housing and cut it out (no pic of the cutout).
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The initial test fitting is pretty good, though a bit more needs to be cut from the bottom notch (can see a decent gab showing on the bottom of the housing). I also verified the mounting block spacing was in the correct location.
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To further test the armature spacing relative to the engine housing, I reattached the cockpit section to the center mounting block -- really the only way to be sure.
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And now with the housing attached:
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Last thing I've worked on so far is a bit of extra work on the engine mounting plate. If you look closely at the reference images, you can clearly see there are small raised rings around the base of the engines exhausts (see red arrows). It looks like the wiring harnesses to supply electricity to the model when rear-mounting come out through there. I'm not going that route, I think, though I haven't fully decided.
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I wanted to add this detail, so I measured out a distance I thought looked good (went with about 1.2") and created a round disk to use for shaping the raised detail. Then it was just a matter of gluing it down. The height on these rings was about .2" and made of .02" thick stock. Clothes pins were perfect for holding the ends in place while the glue set.
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I like how this looks...
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And here it is with the engines fitted. Hard to see the rings from straight behind, but on an angle I think it adds a really nice detail to that pretty bland mounting plate.
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Like I mentioned before, this week will mostly be working out dimensions for the remaining bucks, as I'm in Chicago through late Thursday. I also need to get a long 10-24 tap to thread holes through the ABS blocks and aluminum block to attach them to each other. In total it's like 4-1/2" all the way through, and so I'm gonna get a 6" long extended tap (threads are like 1", and 5" of smaller shank to fit down the hole after) from my work, as we sell practically every industrial supply one might need within the pages of that big yellow book.

Probably won't be anything new for the rest of the week, but you never know. Til next time!
 
Back with an update!

Didn’t get much done in Chicago — lots of late nights working. I did pickup the longer tap, though, so once I was back I tapped through holes for the main mounting blocks and screwed them together.
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I also drilled through holes in top and bottom for the 3/4” dia tubes I’m using for the next and main wing supports.

With that all together I started work on the bucks for the upper and lower neck sections that go above the engine housing. Spent some time shaping the lower neck halves and then made a few pulls. Note, these lower neck sections are the same as the upper section of the main wing.
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The pulls came out nicely!

Next I worked on the upper neck bucks:
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Before I pulled these neck sections I was test fitting the lower neck parts and realized I’d messed up!! The top leading edge should curve up to itself, but I’d forgotten to sand this over and so it’s flat across the front.
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So I went to fixing that front edge on the bucks and made another pull.
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That’s better!!
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Let’s test fit!
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And now with the cockpit section attached.
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It’s looking pretty good, but def needs some massaging! After mulling it over for a bit I decided that I actually didn’t like the fit of the neck sections and so I tweaked the bucks and re-pulled them. Came out a lot better IMO.

Spacing felt good, so I started notching out the neck sections around the cockpit assembly, matching the reference as much as I could.
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So here’s where I’m at right now:

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Next I’ll be working on getting the lower tube for the main wing mounted, getting the hinges for the wings mounted, and then working on the section between the lower neck and engine housing — gotta get those missiles on. Plus wiring, as I feel close to wanting to close up the center section, and that means I need wiring from the engines to the neck and down to the bottom to be setup.
 
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Super small update. Worked on attaching the hinges to the bottom mounting block. For anyone wondering, the width across the hinges is 2.5” from end to end, or 2” center to center. The diameter of the knuckles is .5”.
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Tested the fit with the parts that go into the wings and it’s a good fit! Those wing hinge sections look a bit messed up, but that’ll all be hidden within the wings when assembled. I’m also planning to add a thin piece of .005” thick styrene to cover over the top and front of the hinges so the seams are hidden.
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I don't have pics, but I also was unhappy with the width of the upper neck vac-formed sections (too wide by maybe .2”, which is a lot!) so I sanded the bucks down to something that works better. Now I have to modify the “collars” again to thin them out…ugh…

And with that I’m off to North Carolina for a few days so no more progress on this til next week.
 
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Fantastic build. Can i ask a few dumb questions?

1. The items you are vac-forming. Is that how they were done or are those parts unavailable/too expensive/unidentified?
2. The armature/wing hinge. Are you making that up or following something?

Makes me want to build one too. I built the same exact vacu-former (it is awesome BTW but you know that) and have 10 project in line already so i will just read along.

Thank you.
 
Fantastic build. Can i ask a few dumb questions?

1. The items you are vac-forming. Is that how they were done or are those parts unavailable/too expensive/unidentified?
2. The armature/wing hinge. Are you making that up or following something?

Makes me want to build one too. I built the same exact vacu-former (it is awesome BTW but you know that) and have 10 project in line already so i will just read along.

Thank you.
The items I am vac-forming, from my understanding and talking to others who are in the know, were originally vac-formed and not from lot parts. So no undiscovered parts there. Some attribute the wing gun shrouds as being from a Monogram A-4E Skyhawk, but the shape is wrong — it doesn’t work.

I’m making up the entire armature myself, since it’s not clear what was actually used inside, but basing it on some evidence and photos. For example, the side mounting out of engine housing is accurate, as is the mounting between the engine. There’s also a mounting pole down through the middle to the end of main wing gun. The hinges are based on me taking measurements from the Bandai B-Wing, then comparing to the reference pics using kit parts to confirm the size. The size I landed on is pretty accurate, though truthfully not as round as I’d like, but it’s close enough.

The only thing I have to revisit now is that mounting thread size. Literally today in a Facebook thread (no pun intended) asking about armatures ILM used, Bill George chimed in and effectively said that the smaller models used 3/4” mounting size as the standard, and I’ve used 1/2”-13. So I might have to machine out my thread sizes — I’m seeking some clarification to confirm if it’s a 3/4” dia mounting rod or the threads are 3/4”-10. I’ll share when I know more on that.

And, yeah, the vac-former is pretty awesome and does a great job. It’s a well thought out design, I love it!
 
OK, looking for a small assist here. I’m trying to identify what the front slatted panel is on the B-Wing hinge section.
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It looks like it’s either a slatted kit part (the edges are very straight and clean, which is what makes me think it might be), or it’s from a Plastruct textured sheet, like this wood paneling sheet:
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Or it’s been scribed (very unlikely). I went through all the kits I already have for this build (which is all kits I could identify parts for ~98%) and don’t see a part that matches well, so throwing it out to the ether to see what sticks!

Let me know your thoughts!

Right now I’m stuck here on that section:
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Thanks!
 
OK, looking for a small assist here. I’m trying to identify what the front slatted panel is on the B-Wing hinge section.
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It looks like it’s either a slatted kit part (the edges are very straight and clean, which is what makes me think it might be), or it’s from a Plastruct textured sheet, like this wood paneling sheet:
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Or it’s been scribed (very unlikely). I went through all the kits I already have for this build (which is all kits I could identify parts for ~98%) and don’t see a part that matches well, so throwing it out to the ether to see what sticks!

Let me know your thoughts!

Right now I’m stuck here on that section:
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Thanks!
What is it's dimensions?
 
If it were larger, I would point to pvc bathroom wall kit seam covers. But I have a feeling it is much smaller?

I had a drawer divider kit that looked like this with snap off lines for customization. Like in a fishing tackle box that is customizable.
 
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