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[Jedifyfe]

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I personally consider Ceric a good guy and a friend. We chat on facebook from time to time...

YOU SLUUUUT!!!!!:angry

 

[EvilRocketeer]

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YOU SLUUUUT!!!!!:angry

pshh, he rejected my friend request...im not special

 

[Capn_Jack_Savvy]

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Isn't it "Matt......you ignorant SLUTTT!"

 

[Capn_Jack_Savvy]

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I think Ceric that you being down in Florida you should have a ton of Dragon Con alum all around that region. If you make the plans for a Prop Party in that general region I am sure you would get quite a few people in attendance.

I think you should just start out small. Have it at someone's house, garage, park, community center where it is FREE! Keep it down to 10 people or less. Now you got yourself the makings of a South East Prop Party.

Cali is not cheap for both food and berthing and not to mention airplane tickets. If you really plan on coming to soCal you need to buy your tickets NOW NOW NOW.... Check out Southwest Airlines or better yet Cheap Tickets Dot Com Cheap Hotels, Flights, Airline Tickets, Airfare, Vacations, Rental Car & Cruises at CheapTickets for some great rates.

But again it is a long haul and expensive one just to spend some time for 6-8 hours with strangers or should I say "strange" Californians! Save your Moola for the big Cons like D*C or SDCC. If you make it out for SDCC that is the time to get together will all of us insane costumers / prop makers!

 

[MattMunson]

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Capn Jack, you are discriminating.

 

[Lutso]

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I think in your four months and 45 posts on this forum, you haven't really gotten to know us all that well, if that is your conclusion from the posts in this thread. Since you're local, you should totally come and meet everyone face to face. I'm sure you'll get a more informed opinion of these people that you are accusing.

Discriminated against? Are you serious??? It's a party. The invite is posted at the top of the forum. Everyone is invited.

Let me clarify that I am not basing my beliefs of the people here on this situation alone. I have not come to any conclusions based on this thread (in fact I'm not much for making conclusions in general). I know better than to label people based on a single scenario.
Likewise I wasn't trying to accuse as much as I was trying to quell what I thought was an attack. I wasn't trying to say that anyone was a jerk or anything...I just merely called to attention this situation which I didn't think highly of.

Discriminated may have been the wrong choice of words. But what I was trying to convey was that if I were in Ceric's situation...there'd be no way that I would be comfortable showing up. He might feel differently. Maybe he is not as easily discouraged as I.

You are of course, entitled to your opinion, though I find your circular reasoning confusing. First, you say we should have taken that type of lambasting to PM, and then you turn around and attack me. Oh well. Doens't really worry me.

Also, Ceric has been VERY vocal and VERY open with his situation in life and things he consideres problems. He has often come to the forum for advice on how to deal with his circumstances, and how to overcome some of his problems. I even linked to a thread earlier in this thread containing some pertinent information.

My point is that it's not like we're airing dirty laundry on the dude. What we know about him is stuff we have learned on the RPF, including his pleas for help. So when the members of this forum respond with some advice that may not seem pleasant to folks who have skimmed this thread, you'll have to excuse me if I don't feel guilty for responding in a way that i consider appropriate, and possibly necessary.

I personally consider Ceric a good guy and a friend. We chat on facebook from time to time. I'm guessing you didn't know that. I am JUST as brutally honest with him in our chats, and I also try to share some of my hard learned life lessons with him while encouraging him and offering advice.

So I guess it's all context. While you may have viewed this thread as a beat-up or a pile-on, I saw it much more as a tough-love, come to ***** kind of thing. If you disagree, that's totally fine, and you are of course entitled to your opinion. I just don't want you, or anyone else reading this thread, to think that there's any kind of malice towards Ceric.

Like I stated in my original post, I came with an outsider's opinion. I'm sure there are many things I don't know about the relationships involved here, and about many things and factors. Mostly the reason I even made any assumptions at all was because Ceric seemed agitated by it - and that bothered me. Maybe he was being sarcastic or non-caring, but that wasn't the impression I'd gotten initially, and because of that I felt compelled to stand up for him. I've been in his situation, and I wanted to give him some support. So shoot me.

Like you said, sure, it might be all out of context. I don't know anything about your guys' relationship. And I'm sure there's lots of others (maybe prospective members) that didn't either, and maybe they took it as hostility too. I have to plead innocent on this one. Let me be the representative of the nerdy kids at the back of the cafeteria who have to make guesses as to the nature of the cool kids' relationships :confused
I would like to hear Ceric's thoughts on this, actually. Maybe I should not have gotten involved trying to defend him.

I wasn't trying to attack anyone at all, although my post may have come off as such. I'm not a skilled diplomat, which is why I stay out of most of the conflicts around here. Miscommunication comes hand in hand with my attempts at arguing and peacemaking.
Accusation and attack were not on my agenda and I did not hold anyone in contempt for what had transpired. I just saw something that I had thought to be an injustice and tried to fix it by bringing it to attention as peacefully as I could.

No harm was intended. None at all...just tryin' to even out the odds. :cool

Lastly, I hereby demand that you bring your Mercke Lutso Outfit to the prop party and show it off. From the pics in your album, it looks really great! I'd love to see it in person.

Thanks for the compliment. Maybe I will bring it along, but it is in need of a revamp and does not look as good as it could...it may need to wait.

 

[PHArchivist]

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I prefer to be the best looking guy in the room, and he always gives me a run for my money.

Aw come on!!! Where's the love!?

 

[MattMunson]

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Thanks for the compliment. Maybe I will bring it along, but it is in need of a revamp and does not look as good as it could...it may need to wait.

I think one of the absolutes in this hobby is that NOTHING is ever "done" or "perfect". Or both. That's half of the fun of the hobby. My vote is that you bring it, if only so we will have a point of reference when you do some upgrades. The party might also be a great place to get some new ideas or insight on how to improve. If Art is there, he will no doubt bring a wealth of mandalorian knowledge with him.

As for the rest of the stuff, I wouldn't sweat it. Ceric's a big boy. I'm sure he doesn't need defending

 

[Capn_Jack_Savvy]

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Capn Jack, you are discriminating.

Forgive me oh great one!

 

[TymerDC]

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Ok guys, heres some interesting news. I've been talking to Hollywood Treasure aka Profiles in History and they might be interested in filming their TV show at our Prop Party. What I need to know from you guys is what SCREEN USED props can you bring to show Joe and his crew? ....possibly sell?...although its not a requirement. I need some really cool significant things as an incentive for them to come.....so what do you have? PM me a list and PLEASE if your not going to follow thru and show up then don't offer anything to show.
Again ..this is just a MAYBE so please let me know what you have to show and can definitely bring!!

 

[EvilRocketeer]

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I am totally against the idea of having profiles in history there....this event is suppose to be for us to mingle and have fun chatting with each other...having them there may change the whole purpose of the prop party...they are there to make a buck, we are there to have fun....defeats the purpose

 

[micdavis]

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^^+1

No PIH please, well no cameras anyway. Any people want to come and hang out, sure.

Of course, it's not up to me.

 

[TymerDC]

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I asked Jedifyfe before I posted...he liked the idea. Its not definite anyway and if all of you don't want this then it can be stopped. Frankly I don't understand what the problem is except for Micdavis...he hates everything....sorta like that Mikey kid in the cereal commercials. :lol

 

[Jedifyfe]

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I asked Jedifyfe before I posted...he liked the idea. Its not definite anyway and if all of you don't want this then it can be stopped. Frankly I don't understand what the problem is except for Micdavis...he hates everything....sorta like that Mikey kid in the cereal commercials. :lol

Correct. This could be a very cool addition to the party. What I would want is that PIH not film any replicas, since they are technically illegal. But it could be a cool venue for both screen used prop owners and the like.

I am a little surprised at the intial reaction. Please PM me with any concern.

 

[Jedifyfe]

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I also wanted to add that this year we will be having a few "door prizes". One of which will be donated/bought by the RPF!!! I am donating a set of my Iron Man magazine covers and Newspaper and Matt Munson has graciously donated a MM Multipass kit.

Anyone else that would like to donate a kit or prop, please PM me.

 

[Bowelrock]

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Brad your gonna buy me a beer rite?

 

[slave1pilot]

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From an outsider's opinion, I need to say that the reaction from other members here towards Profiles in History is a little disappointing.

 

[Jedifyfe]

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Brad your gonna buy me a beer rite?

You rock!!!! Please PM me with contact info!

I am also adding my signed BTTF Clock Tower Flyer (signed by Claudia Wells aka: Jennifer Parker)

 

[EvilRocketeer]

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Correct. This could be a very cool addition to the party. What I would want is that PIH not film any replicas, since they are technically illegal. But it could be a cool venue for both screen used prop owners and the like.

I am a little surprised at the intial reaction. Please PM me with any concern.

I dunno, we can still have a cool venue for screen-used owners without pIH there. To me, prop parties is about social gathering and coming together to chat about life, props, etc etc.

Bringing PIH into this, it will changes the whole aspect...They will be more focused on what they can get their hands on and see if they can turn it around for the buck...Prop party becomes more of a appraisal party....

Also, I wouldnt recommend any-one to bring a screen-used item in the first place...The chances of having it be damage...

 

[Kris Lyssara]

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Involving Ceric's dilemma;

From an outsider's opinion, I need to say that the reaction from other members here towards Ceric is a little disappointing. I just read over the last few pages in a couple of minutes and was a bit shocked.

Ceric said it right when he concluded that he was pretty much not welcome at the party...those involved can deny this, sure, but I can pretty much guarantee at this point that if he were to show up, the first thing said to him would be "So you decided to blow the money, huh? <sigh> Well, it's your call." And would be constantly discriminated against the rest of the day.

I know you guys were trying to help him out, but you need to be a little more negotiating and not just tell him he's wrong and to go to his room. He's an adult (he shouldn't have had to prove it like he did), treat him like one.
If it was really that important to you to give this guy your personal advice, do you think maybe you should have done so through PM's instead of debating him on the face of the thread and potentially embarrassing him in front of people he is trying to become friends with? Matt, that "19 and young" speech you gave was really inappropriate and humiliating.

Sorry, I don't usually speak up that much on this board when it comes to things like this, but this one bugged me. I've been in that situation before.

I don't need defended. I'm used to these guys, I'm used to the way they talk. And his 19 and young speech is old hat, I've seen it five times from him. I think he's going senile, he's repeating himself so much.

You are of course, entitled to your opinion, though I find your circular reasoning confusing. First, you say we should have taken that type of lambasting to PM, and then you turn around and attack me. Oh well. Doens't really worry me.

Also, Ceric has been VERY vocal and VERY open with his situation in life and things he consideres problems. He has often come to the forum for advice on how to deal with his circumstances, and how to overcome some of his problems. I even linked to a thread earlier in this thread containing some pertinent information.

My point is that it's not like we're airing dirty laundry on the dude. What we know about him is stuff we have learned on the RPF, including his pleas for help. So when the members of this forum respond with some advice that may not seem pleasant to folks who have skimmed this thread, you'll have to excuse me if I don't feel guilty for responding in a way that i consider appropriate, and possibly necessary.

I personally consider Ceric a good guy and a friend. We chat on facebook from time to time. I'm guessing you didn't know that. I am JUST as brutally honest with him in our chats, and I also try to share some of my hard learned life lessons with him while encouraging him and offering advice.

So I guess it's all context. While you may have viewed this thread as a beat-up or a pile-on, I saw it much more as a tough-love, come to ***** kind of thing. If you disagree, that's totally fine, and you are of course entitled to your opinion. I just don't want you, or anyone else reading this thread, to think that there's any kind of malice towards Ceric.

^This. If anything, I was acting frustrated and annoyed more than anything else. But I know that I'd be welcome at the party, even though there would DEFINITELY be a few sarcastic comments about showing up anyway.

pshh, he rejected my friend request...im not special

Hey, I rejected Matt's relationship request too. Re-send the request and just say it's you.

@Ceric, I hope you understand that the bluntness of what we say here is for your benefit. If you were thinking that this was an opportunity to spread your prop making wings and mingle with people in the business, then you were mistaken. This is more of a social get together to talk "S" about props, movies and knuckleheads on the RPF. It's a great time to make friends with other RPF'rs but not a hob-nobbing scene at all. You really should look into setting up a local RPF prop party. I think you'd be surprised with the amount of people that are into props in your area, even if they aren't on the RPF.

Yeah, I was kind of picking that up. And I do understand. I'm 19 and young, not 19 and immature. As far as a local prop party, I have looked into it, tried to find other people locally who are interested, but the nearest ones are at least an hour away from me, from what I can find. The problem is that if they aren't on the RPF, I'm not sure how else to find them. I'm persona non grata on the Florida 501st boards (long story, but it started with a $3.00 share of a cab fare), and the active members of the Florida branch of the Mandalorian Mercs are situated down in the Orlando-Tampa area, or up in the Panhandle. Not really anyone in the Ocala/Gainesville area that I know of.

I think Ceric that you being down in Florida you should have a ton of Dragon Con alum all around that region. If you make the plans for a Prop Party in that general region I am sure you would get quite a few people in attendance.

I think you should just start out small. Have it at someone's house, garage, park, community center where it is FREE! Keep it down to 10 people or less. Now you got yourself the makings of a South East Prop Party.

Cali is not cheap for both food and berthing and not to mention airplane tickets. If you really plan on coming to soCal you need to buy your tickets NOW NOW NOW.... Check out Southwest Airlines or better yet Cheap Tickets Dot Com Cheap Hotels, Flights, Airline Tickets, Airfare, Vacations, Rental Car & Cruises at CheapTickets for some great rates.

But again it is a long haul and expensive one just to spend some time for 6-8 hours with strangers or should I say "strange" Californians! Save your Moola for the big Cons like D*C or SDCC. If you make it out for SDCC that is the time to get together will all of us insane costumers / prop makers!

Well, as I said, I'm not going to be showing up. I threw the money into savings for D*Con, and got myself an iPod to replace the mp3 player that died after three years of loyal service. I'd love to do something small (or not-so-small), but as I said above, I haven't really found anyone local to me who's into the props and such; most people are down in the Orlando/Tampa area, it seems.

As for the rest of the stuff, I wouldn't sweat it. Ceric's a big boy. I'm sure he doesn't need defending

Quoted for truth.

I also wanted to add that this year we will be having a few "door prizes". One of which will be donated/bought by the RPF!!! I am donating a set of my Iron Man magazine covers and Newspaper and Matt Munson has graciously donated a MM Multipass kit.

Anyone else that would like to donate a kit or prop, please PM me.

Depending on if I can find one of the necessary parts, I might be able to get an AI chip from HALO done to donate. It's been a project a long time in the making, and I've finally got (nearly) everything I need for it.