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The Logan's Run Sandman Gun: My 49 Year Obsession with This Iconic Movie Prop
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propmaster2000
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Can you share a video of the actual working "Logan's Run Sandman Flame Gun" you finally created here?
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Can you share a video of the actual working "Logan's Run Sandman Flame Gun" you finally created here?
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Doppelganger01
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I am sorry to say that I do not have any videos from those early days. The only thing that has survived in my files is the inset picture I used on page 13 of my visual essay. I convinced my friend Jeff to fire the gun at me, or in my direction, while I photographed the burst with my very first digital camera in the late 90s early 2000s. Fortunately, I captured it on the first shot. Ultimately, I dismantled it and put the parts in a junk box that I have since lost somewhere between NYC and LA after I left the East coast.
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propmaster2000
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A few years back, I was able the 3D Print out of PLA a version of the Flame Pistol.
I think it is the only one done in this fashion......
With todays advancements, I was able to create my own valve setup and Calcium Carbide gas containment components and 3D print the main body in PLA filament.
This was several years ago....
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I may have a video of it's function on youtube....
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Found it:
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A few years back, I was able the 3D Print out of PLA a version of the Flame Pistol.
I think it is the only one done in this fashion......
With todays advancements, I was able to create my own valve setup and Calcium Carbide gas containment components and 3D print the main body in PLA filament.
This was several years ago....
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I may have a video of it's function on youtube....
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Found it:
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Doppelganger01
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3D printed and functional, that's very nice work! I still wish I had mine, but then again, I now live in a one room studio apartment in this little desert town. If I started "Bustin Flames" now, my neighbors would call in the real Sandmen, I fear. I have been considering ordering CNC machined parts and 3D printed ones to make a metal, non-working model for myself, like this version.
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Doppelganger01
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Thank you! It has been a long time. Like for many of us, life keeps getting in the way and makes it difficult, at least for me, to maintain focus on the fun stuff in life. I hope you have been doing well since we met in Glendora all those years ago.
Regarding the BR guns, they're in the queue. Once I finish my therapy session with Logan's Run, I hope to move onto the next obsession. As much as I seem to beat up on Star Wars in my Logan's Run musings, I have to admit that I made just as many Han Solo and Stormtrooper blasters (ANH) as I did Sandman Guns, but there was less of a mystery surrounding those props back in 1977-78, than there was for the Sandman Gun. I am sure we all managed to get a first issue copy of, "Fantastic Films" (Aug. 1978 Vol. 1 Issue No. 3), "The Weapons of Star Wars". I made my first DL44 and E11 based on that issue. After that was Battlestar Galactica, Return of Captain Nemo (1978) (scuba divers with laser pistols), Buck Rogers (1979), more Star Wars (ESB), then Blade Runner, all of which require some attention, like I have given to Star Trek and Logan's Run. In the closet I have a box marked "Doppel-Prod". It is full of 3.5" floppy disks. My first digital camera in those early days was a Sony that photographed directly onto one of those disks. Just tonight I purchased a disk drive so I can go through all of them and see what is stored on them. I have a vague memory of photographing many of my maker-projects (successful one and failed ones) during the Doppelganger Production years. I am sure the resolution is quite poor, but I would like to publish a Gallery on DA devoted to the Pflager Katsumata Series - D and its many iterations that I made during those days. I will let you know when I complete that chapter.
IFA
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And they even replicated the battery......very impressive kit !!!
Doppelganger01
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Yeah, if only it had been real, though. Maybe in that parallel world, in which Star Wars never existedAnd they even replicated the battery......very impressive kit !!!
. I designed this kit with place holders, so that the "dud-parts" could be easily replaced with ones that added more functionality to the gun, if I later decided to make a functional one again, or if I just wanted to add a flash/strobe effect, like the BSG TOS Guns had in the early episodes. Back in '87, I managed to buy an M.G.C. type C96 Broomhandle Mauser blow-back kit, in order to make an SW ROTJ DL44, a replica I was never able to finish and it too was lost in time somehow. I used the memory of that actual, real-world replica to imagine a similar version of a LR Flame Gun model kit in the same fashion. Dreamers dream. Doers do. I'm a dreamer.Attachments
Doppelganger01
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Really?!
Then let me apologize now to you and to all of you who purchased one of those kits back in the day. I was so displeased with how the kits turned out, and they were actually more difficult to cast for me than the PKDs, that I discontinued them soon after I began offering them. If I remember correctly, like with the PKD, I made two versions. The first version had a split vented barrel (two halves, a right and a left) that had to be glued together and patched to hide the seam. Ugly is the word that best describes version one. I then retooled that part and made it as a single piece with the fin cast onto it. The mold then had to be made as a 3-part mold with a center core to properly cast it with the 4 vents and the open center. It looked so much better, but it was still such a pain to cast and then I had to insert a 1" diameter acrylic mandrel after demolding so that the vents would hold their form without sagging inward. That took about 24 hours before the resin completely cured to that final shape. Eventually, I threw in the towel and discontinued it. Although none of you ever complained to me about it, I just was not happy with it and I pulled it. If any of you still have one of those kits, they are very rare now. If I had to guess, I think I only sold 30, at the most. Some went to Village Comics in NYC and some to Puzzle Zoo in Santa Monica, CA, some to Forbidden Planet in the UK, I believe. I am hoping I can find images of all that on these floppy disks I have stored in the, "Doppel-Prod" box in the closet. If I do, and I do not suffer a metal relapse from the embarrassment from seeing them again, I will post some images here. The only good thing I remember liking about that kit were the markings/stampings I put on it. If I remember correctly, they were:1.) "ONE FOR ONE" - on the right side of the vented barrel.
2.) "Sandman Issue" on the right grip panel.
3.) "...something...something Y.O.C 2274 S.F.C. (Year of the City 2274 - Sexy Female Computer) I am not sure about the year, though.
4.) " some-kind-of serial #" on the left side. I am not sure though.
5.) and some-kind-of "atomic symbol" looking thing on the grips.
Hopefully my memory will return, once I go through all these disks.
To be continued.
Anyway, I am happy to hear you were able to trade up with it.
IFA
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The kit looked great and the size was good but I was more for a realistic weight so I bought a metal kit instead. But now knowing it is scarce, I should have kept it )
I remember some engravings on it but I think it was a "jewel"/palm clock" on the grips and not an atomic symbol.....
)I remember some engravings on it but I think it was a "jewel"/palm clock" on the grips and not an atomic symbol.....
