Sherlock Coat opinions/info?

[TheLark]

There's also this one here, which looks better, but only weighs in at 465 grams in lambswool, which is apparently too delicate for an overcoat. Or *is* it?

MAGEE CLOTHS / SALT-AND-PEPPER-FLECK-DONEG.jpg

 

[Indy Magnoli]

I've got my fabric suppliers looking for some more swatches right now (as well as buttons). Hopefully we'll find a good match and have a prototype worked up by July.

-Magnoli

 

[HaroldVonBraun]

You see the problem is, something many people seem to miss/purposely ignore: Is the fact that it isn't actually a herringbone, it's a small tripey-dotty thing.

As it can be seen in this picture. Therefor something like this:

would be much more accurate. Sure, the herringbone looks nice form a far, but it doesn't look accurate when close-up.

 

[HaroldVonBraun]

There's also this one here, which looks better, but only weighs in at 465 grams in lambswool, which is apparently too delicate for an overcoat. Or *is* it?

MAGEE CLOTHS / SALT-AND-PEPPER-FLECK-DONEG.jpg

Well Ray already said that it was apparantly quite light-weight for an overcoat. Although i don't know if 465 grams might be TOO light. I suppose Ray or someone with more fabric experience would be the judge oh that...

 

[Risu]

You see the problem is, something many people seem to miss/purposely ignore: Is the fact that it isn't actually a herringbone, it's a small tripey-dotty thing.

As it can be seen in this picture. Therefor something like this: would be much more accurate. Sure, the herringbone looks nice form a far, but it doesn't look accurate when close-up.

I think you're mixing up herringbone and houndstooth. Herringbone is a weave that produces zig-zag type lines on the cross grain. Houndstooth is the one similar to the Belstaff coat.

 

[TheLark]

Agreed, the Belstaff is not houndstooth, but the effect standing from a few feet away is the same - it looks like a square grid pattern.

I don't even know what the diagonal white stitch arrangement in the Alfatex and Belstaff wool is called. If somebody could tell us, we might have a better job tracking it down.

 

[Risu]

I can't see a difference between the Alfatex and the original. Both are basically smaller teeth on a background. Instead of being 50/50 grey to black like a houndstooth, it's more like 30/80, but the pattern is basically the same.

 

[HaroldVonBraun]

Oh yeah Houndstooth, oh well. But the Alfatex does maybe seem slightly too bright and "sharp"

On the real coat, the white dotty-things are hardly visible when up-close, and are a light grey color.

 

[Pacifisticmatt]

£2,000 size L, found by sherlockology

Belstaff Milford Coat as Worn by BBC's Sherlock in Stratford-upon-avon, Warwickshire | Men's Clothing for Sale | Gumtree.com

 

[TheLark]

Pass.

 

[Pacifisticmatt]

Has anyone found the pattern (or similar) in all black without the grey highlighting? I would gladly accept that as a valid substitute.


Oh and for water proofing your wool coats once completed, a short board post on the topic: Waterproofing wool [Archive] - BushcraftUK: Community Forum

 

[Indy Magnoli]

Here's the new fabric we sourced for this coat:

 

[Pacifisticmatt]

Here's the new fabric we sourced for this coat:

:love will you be selling the fabric stand-alone? or only the completed replica coat? (only ask because I already have the interfacing, lining and my test coat is half done, so I might as well finish the project)

 

[Indy Magnoli]

I'm trying one more supplier (to see if I can get the price lower) but if we go with the above material, we'll only be buying small quantities (not bulk wholesale) so it won't be cheap, but I could sell it by the yard, yes.

Kind regards,
Magnoli

 

[TheLark]

Looks promising!

Is it Tweed? Have they told you the weight in grams?

I might also be interested in purchasing this by the yard if you go with it.

 

[TheLark]

I also found this jacket on Etsy which is made from Harris Tweed by Kenneth Macleod (Shawbost) Ltd. Not sure if that's worth investigating to see if they still do the wool.

 

[Indy Magnoli]

The fabric we sourced above is a 14oz weight.

 

[TheLark]

Ok, so the cosplaysky people sell their wool for $20 per metre, which is dirt cheap. Of course, the extent to which it is actually wool is debatable.

I like the look of it well enough, but I'm concerned about the way those cosplaysky coats hang (they seem to crinkle and slump more and lack that nice solid, sharpness at the front). I *think* it's a matter of interfacing, and if I made my own with better interfacing do you reckon I could get it to hang more like this one?

 

[Risu]

Cosplaysky is where I'm going to get my fabric from when I'm ready, short of Alfatex, their fabric is hands down the best I've seen. Price is reasonable, too. There's nothing particularly wrong with the fabric, they just don't interface the coats as thoroughly as the originals. My guess is the Belstaff jackets are probably machine pad-stitched, which gives that gradual roll to the lapels. It would also fit their exorbitantly expensive but not custom tailored price range. Cosplaysky most likely uses fusible interfacing on all of their costume coats, which doesn't exactly make for a nice looking end result.

 

[misswolverine]

I live where it's fairly cold (SF Bay) and I wear my cosplaysky coat fairly often- it's one of the warmest coats I own.

While I know very little about wool and can't say how nice it is, I can say it's a good material and is fairly thick. Not super heavy, and I'm sure not as nice as the Belstaff, but I think it's pretty good.

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I'm sure the Magnoli one will be very nice, as always.