Sherlock Coat opinions/info?

[RayR]

Thanks RayR, that also shows a really nice close up of the tweed material.

I guess with all the winter stock sold out over Europe, that wool from fabric mart seems to be the only viable option left. Hmmm.... Do I want to wait until next winter comes round so ican get real tweed....

You're right. I had thought of that as well. This should give everyone pretty solid reference material. One thing I will add...on the edges (anywhere...bottom, pockets, sides) where the material is folded over it is just 1/8" thick.

I have a few RAF Greatcoats of the same size, in the finer Officer wool, and the Milford is MUCH lighter. It Breaths well. It isn't too warm when the temps are only somewhat cool, but it is nice and warm when it is cold outside...except for that open neck, lol. Then I throw on a nice Oliver Tweed scarf. They make one that is very like the 1st season in color and style.

 

[booksandcorsets]

I'm planning on making this coat this summer... and after those really nice closeups of the buttons, will try making (and molding) those buttons rather than finding them. With the difficulty everyone is having locating them, it's probably one of the only viable options for accuracy.

 

[joker1]

You will have to check with him directly. He let me cancel my order since he hadn't started cutting or buying specialty items before my original came in. ( surely spent WAY over my budget on the original). He was most gracious, as always.:thumbsup

okay, thanks, Ray just haven't seen any updates on the website nor any posts on the thread, and would be interested to see his progress.

 

[TheLark]

What are people's thoughts on that Abby Workshop coat? They seemed to have nailed the tiny-grid look in the fabric, although the cuffs look a little meh. I wonder where they get their wool...

 

[Risu]

Those buttons are WAY nicer than the ones from Germany. I'd be happy to mold them and cast a set for anybody who's interested, but I won't be using them for my own coat. When I get around to this project, I'll probably sculpt the buttons myself. That stitching will be difficult to sculpt, though.

 

[elenthari]

Yesterday I got that excellent 50ies/60ies men's tailoring book I've been looking for for years. And it was worth the patience (and the price) because there are instructions for constructing a pattern for an 'Ulster' coat that looks EXACTLY like the Milford apart from those pleats in the back (adding which should be ridiculously easy). Plus: It explains the ENTIRE process of interfacing, padding, ironing it to fit... EVERYthing :-D

Anyone interested in constructing along?

And, sorry RayR, I know breaking my promise already... but just to make sure about those last (GREAT!) pictures:
There IS a seam running from the armhole to the pocket, isn't there?!
Is the centre pleat stitched together behind the belt? It looks that way... Or is it open all the way down?

 

[Risu]

There is a seam running from the pocket to the armhole, common practice in long coat because they don't want a seam running all the way down to the bottom in the front. The pleat is also stitched under the belt, just like the Who coat. With the exception of the length, back pleats, and a dart at the collar, this coat is identical to a pattern I've been modifying for another coat. Shouldn't be too difficult to make the pattern for this coat from that.

 

[TheLark]

Here's a couple more ideas for sort of similar looking fabric . I'm trawling google like a mad fiend here.

Design No.92 top far right - Melton Fabric,Wool Melton Fabric Manufacturers,Melton Wool Fabric Suppliers From India

Desgin- No-BN003 top middle - Woolen Fabric,Wool Fabric Manufacturers,Woollen Textile Fabrics Suppliers Punjab,India

 

[HaroldVonBraun]

The white might be slightly too bright, as it almost looks like a sort of lightly striped fabric, but otherwise good.

 

[HaroldVonBraun]

Those buttons are WAY nicer than the ones from Germany. I'd be happy to mold them and cast a set for anybody who's interested, but I won't be using them for my own coat. When I get around to this project, I'll probably sculpt the buttons myself. That stitching will be difficult to sculpt, though.

So... You'd mold the german buttons and send them out? How much would it cost, molded in the dark chocolate color. And would we have to hand paint them ourselves, or would you do it aswell. Any idea about how much it would cost with/without yellow stitching painted on?

 

[Risu]

I wouldn't paint them. I'd cast a set of 10 of them in white resin for $20. If I get a more accurate button or a lot of people signed up I'll use black onyx resin, but I can't justify the trip up to Hollywood and $30 for a new bottle of that right now.

 

[neroon15]

OHHHH! What book is that? Do you have a name, author and publication date. Would love to see if I could get any interlibrary loan of it or if you can maybe you can scan and post the instrutions for us. That would be so wonderful. Thanks!!! I would love to see it. Or if you can send it to me through email that would be great!!!

Yesterday I got that excellent 50ies/60ies men's tailoring book I've been looking for for years. And it was worth the patience (and the price) because there are instructions for constructing a pattern for an 'Ulster' coat that looks EXACTLY like the Milford apart from those pleats in the back (adding which should be ridiculously easy). Plus: It explains the ENTIRE process of interfacing, padding, ironing it to fit... EVERYthing :-D

Anyone interested in constructing along?

And, sorry RayR, I know breaking my promise already... but just to make sure about those last (GREAT!) pictures:
There IS a seam running from the armhole to the pocket, isn't there?!
Is the centre pleat stitched together behind the belt? It looks that way... Or is it open all the way down?

 

[neroon15]

Let me know when you have some made since I will definately place an order in for a set of those buttons. Thanks.

I wouldn't paint them. I'd cast a set of 10 of them in white resin for $20. If I get a more accurate button or a lot of people signed up I'll use black onyx resin, but I can't justify the trip up to Hollywood and $30 for a new bottle of that right now.

 

[Risu]

Anybody who wants a set just needs to send me a PM and we can discuss it there.

 

[TheLark]

Here's another sort-of-similar looking fabric I've got my eye on.

Has anyone found anything else better yet, or have you all got the wool you're using now?

Oh, and Risu, can you show us a photo of the buttons you got? I might be interested.

 

[Risu]

Here are the buttons I got.

As you can see, they're kind of like a squashed version of the Belstaff buttons. They measure 1 3/32" wide, which I believe is a match for the originals.

 

[TheLark]

They seem exactly like the ones from the blog "A Study in Coat".

Perfectly adequate I think.

 

[Risu]

I think they'd actually look really close if the back of the edges was dremeled off a bit to make them thinner. I'll probably do that to my own buttons after I cast them. I'm also going to give all of those a light sanding to get rid of that funky shiny texture. Black onyx resin really is the best way to do this, as the black wouldn't have to be painted at all, just the tan/gold details. Here's my new interest thread:

http://www.therpf.com/f13/sherlock-coat-buttons-146843/

 

[tallhouse]

Having read through the last 8 pages I'm left wondering where the imitation coats are going to be worn? You can get similar "real" coats that have the same flair without the hefty price tag. Though I have to admit, wearing the real one is a blast. From trying it on in the shop in London to having it blow behind me as I go down the escalators into the tube has been one hell of a thrill. Unlike Ray R I do wear the mink collar, mainly to disguise the coat a bit. There is a slight fear of mugging. As you can understand-replacing it now would be damn near impossible.

 

[RayR]

Having read through the last 8 pages I'm left wondering where the imitation coats are going to be worn? You can get similar "real" coats that have the same flair without the hefty price tag. Though I have to admit, wearing the real one is a blast. From trying it on in the shop in London to having it blow behind me as I go down the escalators into the tube has been one hell of a thrill. Unlike Ray R I do wear the mink collar, mainly to disguise the coat a bit. There is a slight fear of mugging. As you can understand-replacing it now would be damn near impossible.

Here in the US, there is not as much recognition and so less chance of theft, I think. And I am anti Fur anyway. But as far as not looking "too much"like the show coat, I did not have the button holes re-sewn in red...
I must totally agree that it is a fabulous coat to wear. It feels and looks great. Sadly, they don't have any spare buttons. I asked. They should have come with it at the price.