IMO it was not arrogance but why would anybody think an exhaust port, which there were probably hundreds, help blow up a 200 mile diameter vehicle?
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Post-release)
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IMO it was not arrogance but why would anybody think an exhaust port, which there were probably hundreds, help blow up a 200 mile diameter vehicle?
cayman shen
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Leia's last line in R1 is going to completely undo me now.
I just watched a second time. Misc notes.
In case it hasn't been mentioned. Some folks didn't understand how the pilot didn't suffer permanent brain damage from the interrogation as Saw described. Saw's exact words were "One tends to lose one's mind." So it isn't necessarily so.
Some folks didn't understand why Saw didn't flee. He actually says "I'm tired of running." before he lets her go. That could mean that he's got no fight left in him, since he also says that there's not much left of him. Or he might have meant that he, literally, can't run anymore because of those mechanical legs.
I'm glad Jyn's crystal didn't end up being the "key" to anything. I'm glad it remained just a personal totem.
The X-Wing pilots - why does there have to be one overweight pilot (as in ANH) who gets shot down? Is it going to become a running gag? I hope not.
This is the second time Alan Tudyk pilots a spacecraft in a movie and the second time he dies.
In case it hasn't been mentioned. Some folks didn't understand how the pilot didn't suffer permanent brain damage from the interrogation as Saw described. Saw's exact words were "One tends to lose one's mind." So it isn't necessarily so.
Some folks didn't understand why Saw didn't flee. He actually says "I'm tired of running." before he lets her go. That could mean that he's got no fight left in him, since he also says that there's not much left of him. Or he might have meant that he, literally, can't run anymore because of those mechanical legs.
I'm glad Jyn's crystal didn't end up being the "key" to anything. I'm glad it remained just a personal totem.
The X-Wing pilots - why does there have to be one overweight pilot (as in ANH) who gets shot down? Is it going to become a running gag? I hope not.
This is the second time Alan Tudyk pilots a spacecraft in a movie and the second time he dies.
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Riceball
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From what's been said here, it's because the original composer was fired (they didn't like what he had/was doing) and then they brought on Giacchino to replace him and redo the entire soundtrack.
JD
Master Member
I'm watching ANH again - mostly because of Carrie Fisher's passing. Something stuck out at the beginning of the film - the way Vader looked down at at the dead (Rebel) soldiers - as if he was recognizing them from the end of Rogue One. Not sure if that was some sort of standard uniform they wore or what, but it seemed to tie them two movies together in a way I didn't notice at first.
You are right. DS1 was 100 miles. Thanks for the correction.
I think that people who read some of the really good EU stories (X-Wing series, Rogue and Wraith Sqds., Darth Bane, Republic Commando, KOTOR game, etc.) that didn't have the main cast already knew this. Now Disney knows that if they have a good story it will do well. I think KOTOR would be interesting, but games like that, that are big, would be hard to fit all you do in the game, into a 2 hour movie. It could probably be done though.
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I didn't, until I played KOTOR. If you haven't played it, it's pretty much another SW movie. The story is that good. The technology isn't that much different even though it's 4000 years prior to ANH.
I tried playing KOTOR, and in the first scene when the ship is under attack and you need to get the hell over there, and the game is making you search the room for your lightsaber and put on your socks and brush your teeth before it would open the door, I was done. 
I'm a "when can I blow **** up" kind of video gamer, role play games bore the crud out of me.
I'm a "when can I blow **** up" kind of video gamer, role play games bore the crud out of me.
ghostryder
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How ‘Rogue One’ Brought Back Familiar Faces
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/27/movies/how-rogue-one-brought-back-grand-moff-tarkin.html?_r=1
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/27/movies/how-rogue-one-brought-back-grand-moff-tarkin.html?_r=1
There's another thing this film "fixed."
I always wondered how it was that the final battle in ANH had so few ships. Wasn't the Rebellion bigger than that? By the time of RotJ it certainly was.
Well, from R1 it's apparent that, at this time, the Rebellion was fragmented and at risk of dissolution. The defeat of the Death Star probably was a unifying event that drew factions of the Rebel Alliance together. The ships in ANH were likely all that were available at the time of the attack but the Rebellion was more fully formed by RotJ.
And, as much as I liked Jedis, I always felt the Rebel Alliance was pretty ... vanilla-boring. The Empire had all the cool tech and armor. With R1 the Rebellion just became interesting. We have morally ambiguous spies, asassins and thieves. We have extremist factions. We have mysterious guardians, like Chirrhut and Baze. For the first time it can be cool to be a rebel, too. - at least for me.
I always wondered how it was that the final battle in ANH had so few ships. Wasn't the Rebellion bigger than that? By the time of RotJ it certainly was.
Well, from R1 it's apparent that, at this time, the Rebellion was fragmented and at risk of dissolution. The defeat of the Death Star probably was a unifying event that drew factions of the Rebel Alliance together. The ships in ANH were likely all that were available at the time of the attack but the Rebellion was more fully formed by RotJ.
And, as much as I liked Jedis, I always felt the Rebel Alliance was pretty ... vanilla-boring. The Empire had all the cool tech and armor. With R1 the Rebellion just became interesting. We have morally ambiguous spies, asassins and thieves. We have extremist factions. We have mysterious guardians, like Chirrhut and Baze. For the first time it can be cool to be a rebel, too. - at least for me.
astroboy
Master Member
Truthfully, the final battle in ANH was supposed to be a small group of fighters and nothing more. It was a stealth mission
And I always got the impression that the rebels in Jedi were the result of a new alliance with the mon calamari. The group on hoth was more in alignment with the group at the end of ANH.
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JD
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I'm not sure if it really fixed anything along these lines - unless maybe I missed it. It seems that the X-Wings made their way back to Yavin IV - what happened to the Rebel capital ships after the battle of Scariff?
I also begs another question - what happened to the Star Destroyers that seemed to be a part of the Death Star's fleet? ...or at least were hanging around when we saw the Death Star in Rogue One.
Jaitea
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I'd say an explanation could be that most of the Rebellion fleet perished,....we only see a few craft successfully jump away,....3 Blockade Runners,...a Rebel Transport & numerous X & Y's ...& in the proceeding shots we see ships being torn in half by the Empire,......It looked like the Ghost didn't escape either:
Well two went down to destroy the gate,....We don't see any accompanying the Death Star when it emerges from hyperspace at Scariff,....
When Vader's arrives,....we don't see how many came with him or what was launched from the Death Star
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Toadmeister
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I assumed the Empire's arrogance decided the Death Star needed no Star Destroyer escorts once operational.
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Laspector
Master Member
Why did the Death Star plans need to go to Alderaan? Why not just take them directly back to Yavin IV? For that matter, why send the princess (who has the plans) to get Kenobi? Why not send the plans straight to the Yavin base and have someone else go after Obi Wan?
Seems odd to put both your "aces-in-the-hole" on the same ship that has a Star Destroyer on it's tail.
Seems odd to put both your "aces-in-the-hole" on the same ship that has a Star Destroyer on it's tail.
JD
Master Member
Yup - looks like there were only three Star Destroyers involved in the Battle of Scarif - two destroyed and Vader's Devastator. (I guess that asks what happened to the Devastator after Vader boards the Death Star in ANH, but that's a whole other discussion).
I'm not sure if this page is canon as to what happened at that battle - but, it does list the ships that were there and the losses. It seems that the major Rebellion losses were a medium transport, a frigate and Profundity (capital ship) - which means a number of ships were able to flee. I'm guessing the lack of these ships during the Death Star/Yavin IV battle could be that they scattered after Scarif to avoid tracking, or left to avoid the destructive force of the DS (and basically writing those left on the moon off).
Dessa
Sr Member
Leia had to be the one to go after Obi-Wan, because it had to be someone that Obi-Wan knew Bail would trust implicitly. That was the whole point of the discussion between Bail and Mon Motha.
As for the plans being with Leia, they were the ones who ended up with them. That wasn't the plan, it just ended up that way. And with Vader chasing them down, they couldn't very well have gone back to Yavin IV, that would have led Vader straight to their HQ.
The plan was "Send Leia to Tatooine to get Obi-Wan, take him to Alderaan (which is where Bail was)." Them getting the plans to the DS wasn't scheduled.
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