did you watch the video at the bottom of the page that is an advertisement for their machines? It's tall than a tank. No a metal gear would look cooler lol. The original could have been a metal gear. None of these are even models they're all really bad looking cgi. Remember when movies used good CGI like in Jurassic park and used it to supplement models? This thing is making scifi channel movies seem good.
Robocop Reboot (Pre-release)
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Lol. I meant in design.
Jurassic Park remains to this day the best CG used in any film ever. At no point in that film did you have the slightest sense that what you were watching wasn't real.
The robo bike will probably, in the movie, have some sort of fancy gyro so it stands on its own. In one of the picks you can see a wedge under the front wheel to keep it standing.
After watching the video of RubberCop on the bike the actor looks embarrased to be there.
The interview with Peter Weller was awesome. He is RoboCop!!!
After watching the video of RubberCop on the bike the actor looks embarrased to be there.
The interview with Peter Weller was awesome. He is RoboCop!!!
Lol. I meant in design.
Jurassic Park remains to this day the best CG used in any film ever. At no point in that film did you have the slightest sense that what you were watching wasn't real.
maybe because a lot of the time you were - it was Stan's stuff.
as for "best ever", i'd just say that since CGI has progressed almost 2 decades since the film, i'd disagree. there's a load of films like Black Hawk Down that i didn't even know used CGI in certain shots until i listened to the commentary tracks etc, and for CGI replicating real world things, that's the benchmark i look for.
EyeofSauron
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its a different thing if you use CGI for minor things, but Jurassic parks main characters were CGI.
Totally different use of the medium
Totally different use of the medium
greylocke
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The helmet reminds me of Rinzler.
And the pistol looks like someone mutated a Deagle
Which I'll counter with:
Anyone can replicate helicopter blades or vehicles. Give me one time that a full organic creature was created so realistically. I work in CGI and Jurassic Park is the benchmark to this day.
What I meant by "anyone" was any industry professional. BG work is comparatively easy to do right, main characters aren't. ELF & ROF included there hasn't been a more convincing use as JP.
Zombie_61
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Not to nit-pick, but it's easier to believe a CGI creature is realistic when we don't have a real-world example to compare it to; i.e. no one living today has actually seen a Tyrannosaurus Rex, so it's easier to believe it was real because we have no viable frame of reference. I could use Rise of the Planet of the Apes as an example--I've seen chimpanzees and gorillas in real life, so I never once believed Caesar or any of the other apes were living, breathing creatures. And, yes, I realize there are other considerations such as budget, time, technologies used, level of talent among the CG artists, etc., but I think you understand the point I'm trying to make.
And, btw, I am in no way trying to denigrate your profession. I still prefer practical effects for the most part, but I fully realize CGI is the "new norm" in visual effects and, given the constraints I mentioned above, some artists are simply better at it than others. Or, as someone in another forum once wrote, "It still looks fake, it just looks fake in a way we're not used to yet."
The main characters? I retract my previous statement then, because Sam Neill and Laura Dern sure looked real to me.
Don't worry, I *TOTALLY* prefer practical effects. I really roll my eyes at the stuff they get us to do sometimes. "You know you could do that WAY cheaper in real life right?"...
The problem isn't budget or time, it's producers & directors liking being able to change everything at the last second if they want to. A crying shame.
EyeofSauron
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i do think they did a pretty good cg hulk in the avengers. the reign of fire dragons didnt look real to me, tho. dont know about the tarantula as i dont know the movie
Bigdaddy
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agreed the "avengers" Hulk was the best I've seen so far, same with the actor playing Banner, I wish they had done a Hulk Movie with him.
Zombie_61
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That too. But surely you can understand it from a filmmaker's perspective. It's far easier to call you'se guys and say, "Hey, we need the monster to do this instead of that," and have you do all the work than it is to have to completely set up and reshoot a scene just to get six seconds of footage. One thing about CGI, it's extremely versatile in the right hands.
On the other hand, sometimes filmmakers get carried away with their own delusions of grandeur, often to the detriment of the finished movie. Steven Spielberg said Jaws wouldn't have been nearly as good if the shark had worked properly; when it didn't work as promised, it forced him to get creative and that resulted in a better movie. So, yeah, CGI's versatility can sometimes allow filmmakers to get lazy and take the easy route.
In the end, CGI is no different from any other visual effect--it's all in how well or poorly it's used.
Lol. I meant in design.
Jurassic Park remains to this day the best CG used in any film ever. At no point in that film did you have the slightest sense that what you were watching wasn't real.
Agreed, i still class JP as the benchmark in CGI. Real world matter is one thing, creating a believable, breathing creature, is a completely new world.
I think it comes down to the fact, CGI is used to create so many lame SciFi channel dinoshark generic hybrid monster movies, its become cheapened by hacks who learned to use it yesterday.
JP, broke the mold, and ill continue to use that movie as my yardstick for sure, even Avatar didnt quite compare IMO!
Lee
One of the biggest reasons I class JP above great CG feats such as Avatar and Avengers is because of the WAY it was used. No unrealistic camera angles, no impossible fly throughs, just solid film making that let everything blend seamlessly. :thumbsup
Yep. Another Spielberg story was that he loved working with actual film because it forced you to be decisive. Once you made a physical cut it was no going back. Makes for better and more careful film making IMHO.
I can't tell you how many projects I've worked on where the director comes to me and basically says "we ****ed up, can you fix it?"
Werstrooper
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Am I the only person to notice the HOLSTER on his right leg...
...that's it...I give up on this movie. Seeing that just took my 2% of hope down to 0%.
Yep, I noticed.
Haha oh man I think that does it for me, I've been backing this project from day one, right up until now.
They lost me when I just noticed the holster for the first time. No gun from leg.
I still love the costume though
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