Prometheus (Post-release)

See my previous post.

If that's what happened, then it's a shame. So much potential, so much anticipation. I mean, the ending of Prometheus seems to be the ONLY continuity detail to bridge it to Alien. Everything else in Prometheus was a blank canvas. How could that one detail have been missed?
 
If that's what happened, then it's a shame. So much potential, so much anticipation. I mean, the ending of the film seems to be the ONLY continuity detail to bridge the films. Everything else was a blank canvas. How could that one detail have been missed?
It wasn't missed. It was just butchered, presumably by Lindelof.
 
CASH...

had it been the same planet and the ending led up to the beginning of alien, they wouldn't be able to make a sequel.
 
So...the conclusion must be made that these Engineers either have the worst luck flying their ships, or they just suck as pilots?

That's the thing. Any race that crashes two of those bad boys in the same system deserves what they get. Come on!
 
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CASH...

had it been the same planet and the ending led up to the beginning of alien, they wouldn't be able to make a sequel.

But they don't need that for a sequel. They could make a sequel out of Shaw's dumb idea to go to the Engineer's home planet to get squashed the moment she steps out of the ship, assuming she survives the trip.

That's another issue: She narrowly escaped her encounter with ONE Engineer, what makes her think she will last long on a planet populated by them?
 
If that's what happened, then it's a shame. So much potential, so much anticipation. I mean, the ending of Prometheus seems to be the ONLY continuity detail to bridge it to Alien. Everything else in Prometheus was a blank canvas. How could that one detail have been missed?

No detail was missed. No "bridge" between the films is intended with Prometheus. No bridge is needed.

Also, I don't think the material he consumed at the beginning is the same as the weaponized material.
 
No detail was missed. No "bridge" between the films is intended with Prometheus. No bridge is needed.

Also, I don't think the material he consumed at the beginning is the same as the weaponized material.

See, you keep saying that over in the sequel thread, and I don't disagree, I think this story is strong enough to stand on it's in. BUT, a lot of people, including I think the studio, do want that and I can agree with that as well.
 
Let's be honest. It WAS the same planet, ship, and being in the previous versions of the script but it was so butchered by rewrites that the entire movie lost any coherent meaning.

That is an odd way to look at it. Regardless of what was in earlier drafts, in the final movie, they chose NOT to have it be LV-426, so it isn't.

That would be like arguing Darth Vader isn't REALLY Luke's father because in Star Wars, it was written that Darth Vader KILLED Luke's father and after "butchered rewrites" the story changed to Darth Vader BEING Luke's father...
 
So...the conclusion must be made that these Engineers either have the worst luck flying their ships, or they just suck as pilots?

Neither. Another craft rammed itself into the Engineer's ship. He was taken down through no fault of his own, but through the deliberate actions of the flight crew of the Prometheus. It wasn't an accident or bad luck. We was attacked as he was trying to flee and taken down. Simple as that.
 
Forgive me if this has been discussed before, as I don't have time to read through the whole thread.

My questions have to do with the ending. The crash landed ship and the Space Jockey were in place, which relates to the beginning of Alien. But, at the end of Prometheus, the Space Jockey dies away from that ship inside the pod. Isn't he supposed to be found still in the seat of the crashed ship at the beginning of Alien?

Also, why does a fully developed alien pop out of his chest?

If these have been answered somewhere, can someone please direct me to it? Thanks.

No, he's not supposed to be the same creature found in the seat in Alien. That ship is already crashed during the event of Prometheus on a different planet in a different system.

It's not an xenomorph that pops out of his chest. It's a different creature. It's similar. It's just a suggestion that the engineers weapon tech (and probably all their tech) is all DNA based and leads to a certain kind of parasite/host/xeno living weapon.

The creatures in Alien are different.
 
But they don't need that for a sequel.

I would argue they did need something and that LV-223 could not possibly be LV-426. LV-223 has at least a string of (and perhaps the entire planet is peppered with) alien temples, all presumably with ships and black goo in them. We have never seen or heard about this in Alien or Aliens... and surely, once the planet was Terra-formed in Aliens, these giant temples would be found, but no... there is just one crashed ship out in the middle of nothing.
 
Neither. Another craft rammed itself into the Engineer's ship. He was taken down through no fault of his own, but through the deliberate actions of the flight crew of the Prometheus. It wasn't an accident or bad luck. We was attacked as he was trying to flee and taken down. Simple as that.

It was bad luck for the Engineer.
 
See, you keep saying that over in the sequel thread, and I don't disagree, I think this story is strong enough to stand on it's in. BUT, a lot of people, including I think the studio, do want that and I can agree with that as well.

Well, I think some people are getting hung up on this being a direct lead in to Alien in some way, and it's not.

That would be like arguing Darth Vader isn't REALLY Luke's father because in Star Wars, it was written that Darth Vader KILLED Luke's father and after "butchered rewrites" the story changed to Darth Vader BEING Luke's father...

I agree. I've always been kind of fascinated by the early drafts and ideas Lucas created. I'm also glad he dropped most of them and moved toward the films we all love.
 
That is an odd way to look at it. Regardless of what was in earlier drafts, in the final movie, they chose NOT to have it be LV-426, so it isn't.

It's pretty clear there were rewrites when we've got photgraphic proof of characters being in two places at once (Shaw and Peter Weyland) and the director even mentioned that the first draft had too much of the original material in it when they brought LOST guy in to get lost in the script rewrites. I'd like to see the original script, I suspect it was a lot more coherent and a better movie than what finally made it to screen.

Oh, and a better analogy would be Luke and Leia frenching leaving a nice sloppy string of spittle connecting their lips in "ESB" and then the line from Yoda suggesting there was another Skywalker out there. ;)
 
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