Prometheus (Post-release)

[Noeland]

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[Bryancd]

I think the reason we need to follow this story directly into ALIEN is the presence of the xenomorph on the wall in the temple in front of an alter. I think the alien is the Engineers Angel of Death.

 

[Jeyl]

I think the reason we need to follow this story directly into ALIEN is the presence of the xenomorph on the wall in the temple in front of an alter. I think the alien is the Engineers Angel of Death.

ENGINEER'S GUIDE TO AVOIDING THE ANGEL OF DEATH

1. Do not use black goo on humans.
2. Do not let the humans who have been exposed to black goo have sex with women.
3. If squid managed to complete it's cycle in the woman's womb, kill it with fire.
4. If the squid is fully formed and is now the size of a car, walk away.
5. If the squid attempts to orally rape you through the mouth, bite down really really hard.

Once again, common sense is all that is needed to avoid the Angel of Death.

 

[Art Andrews]

*Looks at Art Andrews' avatar*

Sigh.

Art, you disappoint me.

Hey, I loved the film and the longer it has been since I saw it and the more I think about it, the more I like it. Is it a perfect film? Of course not. Does it have some glaring flaws? Sure. Is it still one of the most interesting films I have seen in years? Absolutely!

The fact that people are continuing to talk about it this much (let's be honest, for all of the Avengers success, once it was over and people weighed in on there initial opinion, talk about the movie died very quickly) tells me there is more to this movie than the average summer blockbuster. I would dare to guess this will be the most debated and discussed movie of this year and at the end of the day, isn't that what makes a great movie; one you want to discuss and hash out. One that tackles some really big concepts and talks about things we rarely see approached in movies?

Nitpick if you like, and there is no doubt that there are things to nitpick, but no matter how much you nitpick it, this movie is a success in my opinion.

 

[Bryancd]

The Engineers entire technogy seems to be partially based on the organic. The Angel of Death, the perfect Destroyer is an integral part of life. It's the Devil or whatever other myth or religious icon you want to ascribe to it. Without one, death, you can't have life.

 

[Kerr Avon]

Hey, I loved the film and the longer it has been since I saw it and the more I think about it, the more I like it. Is it a perfect film? Of course not. Does it have some glaring flaws? Sure. Is it still one of the most interesting films I have seen in years? Absolutely!

I'm the exact opposite. More I think about it the more the movie falls apart.

The fact that people are continuing to talk about it this much (let's be honest, for all of the Avengers success, once it was over and people weighed in on there initial opinion, talk about the movie died very quickly) tells me there is more to this movie than the average summer blockbuster.

No one's talking about the Avengers because there's nothing more to say, it was awesome on every level and no one disagrees!

 

[Art Andrews]

No one's talking about the Avengers because there's nothing more to say, it was awesome on every level and no one disagrees!

I would argue that there is nothing more to say because it is was simply a visual feast with no real substance or deeper meaning. There is nothing wrong with that, but movies like that don't seem to tend to stick in your mind over time. I think people will still be talking about Prometheus 6 months from now while 6 weeks after Avengers is over there is no more talk.

 

[Bryancd]

I just spent an hour on the phone with my Uncle discussing the movie. While on the phone I received a text from a friend I saw the movie with on Tue. and he said he couldn't stop thinking about it. So I would say that it is correct the movie is creating a lot of discussion and that's a good thing. Avengers was fun but well fading in my memory.

 

[Riceball]

But they don't need that for a sequel. They could make a sequel out of Shaw's dumb idea to go to the Engineer's home planet to get squashed the moment she steps out of the ship, assuming she survives the trip.

That's another issue: She narrowly escaped her encounter with ONE Engineer, what makes her think she will last long on a planet populated by them?

Probably because her curiosity is overriding her common sense and/or her survival instincts. It's not exactly unheard of, there are people out there who still do thing despite having a bad, sometimes near fatal, previous experience. This is not uncommon with extreme sports enthusiasts and scientists can be just as bad. I also got the impression that at this point Shaw really doesn't care that much about her safety, with Halloway dead it seemed to me that she had nothing left to go back to and the only thing she had left was to try to find out the answers to questions of why. In a way it would (hopefully) mean that Halloway didn't die for nothing and she could go back home vindicated at the least and possibly even famous although I doubt that was even a glimmer of a thought.

 

[crabra comander]

Shaw needs to find out what the Engineers were up to...

Also, she had enough bio-weapon goo to destroy them if she doesn't like what they have to say. A woman scorned.

They'll probably be like, "This ***** crazy, we better listen to what she has to say"

 

[Art Andrews]

I just spent an hour on the phone with my Uncle discussing the movie. While on the phone I received a text from a friend I saw the movie with on Tue. and he said he couldn't stop thinking about it. So I would say that it is correct the movie is creating a lot of discussion and that's a good thing. Avengers was fun but well fading in my memory.

Exactly. Please don't think I am crapping on Avengers but when you talk about these two movies the conversation seems to go:

Avengers:

Did you see Avengers?

Yeah! It was AWESOME! Best super hero movie yet!

I know! Wasn't it funny when the Hulk Slammed Loki around!

Yeah it was! I LOLed!

Yeah...

Yeah... so...

Crickets chirping...

Prometheus:

Did you see Prometheus?

I did! What was up with that opening scene? Was that Earth?

I don't know, but...

30 minute conversation ensues.

And what was up with that black goo?

Wasn't that crazy! It seemed like...

Another 30 minutes lost in conversation about worms and DNA.

Why wasn't the engineer in his seat? I don't understand.

Well, you see, that actually wasn't...

At least 15 mins on this one as you retrace the steps.

And on and on and on... and if you start to get into the realm of metaphysics, religion, intelligent design and evolution the conversation can go on forever!

I'll take those conversations and movies that light that flame ANY DAY over:

It was cool.

Yeah... it was cool.

 

[Kit Rae]

And I can guarantee you that in 20 years we will still be discussing it, and it will have attained classic status. They will probably be on the 2nd remake of the Avengers by then, in 4D

 

[Kerr Avon]

Exactly. Please don't think I am crapping on Avengers but when you talk about these two movies the conversation seems to go:

I dunno, movies are a medium of communication and entertainment, and when the audience can't even agree what happened on screen or why, I think that just says the creator failed to communicate properly. It's not a matter of looking at one of those images that looks like a vase or two people staring at each other. The motivations of the Engineers, where they were, what happened, doesn't have two answers, it should just have one and none of it was presented successfully to the audience.

 

[JD]

These are two different movies.

I think the Avengers was a better movie for the type of movie it was.

I think Prometheus was not as good a flick for the type of movie it was trying to be.

...and I think there are plenty of moments to talk about in the Avengers to talk about just as their might be in Prometheus. In the end, I'd rather talk about the "Hulk... smash" type moments rather than "yeah, Shaw's c-section ruined what was a decent movie for me."

 

[crabra comander]

All will be revealed, in the sequel!:confused

 

[Kit Rae]

ENGINEER'S GUIDE TO AVOIDING THE ANGEL OF DEATH

1. Do not use black goo on humans.
2. Do not let the humans who have been exposed to black goo have sex with women.
3. If squid managed to complete it's cycle in the woman's womb, kill it with fire.
4. If the squid is fully formed and is now the size of a car, walk away.
5. If the squid attempts to orally rape you through the mouth, bite down really really hard.

Once again, common sense is all that is needed to avoid the Angel of Death.

Since the only remaining Engineer was asleep during 1-4, shouldn't you just have one thing on your list?

1. If you are going to create a nasty black goo to wipe out the humans you created with your not-so-nasty black goo, be sure the container is sealed to avoid the Angel of Death infecting and wiping all your fellow Engineers out.

 

[nickytea]

I dunno, movies are a medium of communication and entertainment, and when the audience can't even agree what happened on screen or why, I think that just says the creator failed to communicate properly. It's not a matter of looking at one of those images that looks like a vase or two people staring at each other. The motivations of the Engineers, where they were, what happened, doesn't have two answers, it should just have one and none of it was presented successfully to the audience.

You don't like "Inception" do you?

 

[Kerr Avon]

All will be revealed, in the sequel!:confused

Ugh. That probably irritates me the most. He gets us to pay for a movie, and then tells us that for us to be able to understand it we'll have to wait for his next movie and then pay again. I won't pay to see another one of his movies at this point, ever. That behavior is just abusive to the audience and ticket buyer.

 

[Kerr Avon]

You don't like "Inception" do you?

Haven't seen it, but it's on my list. Mostly the reason I haven't seen it is because I really don't like DiCaprio. But if ideas that are presented in an intelligent manner, make you think, but still have a coherent plotting and writing, then I'd probably like it. None of that was in "Prometheus"


For instance, I liked "Thirteen Monkeys" which was a big mind bender.

 

[Bryancd]

I dunno, movies are a medium of communication and entertainment, and when the audience can't even agree what happened on screen or why, I think that just says the creator failed to communicate properly. .

I would counter that is the very difinition of "art".