Sourdoh
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Those "endless articles" are, each and every one, publicity for the film; ginning up interest so more will pay to see it. Ambiguity seems to be the winning combination for a huge box office!
Prometheus (Post-release)
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Those "endless articles" are, each and every one, publicity for the film; ginning up interest so more will pay to see it. Ambiguity seems to be the winning combination for a huge box office!
ONEYE
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Kerr Avon
Master Member
Sir Ridley Scott thinks you should have to pay more money to find that out. Wait for his sequel that will make everything he did before meaningful.
Yup, that means you wasted your money on the first movie.
Oh god.
I can't believe I'm going to say this. But even the plot in "Phantom Menace" was more coherent.
That's it.
I'm out.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Actually... I thought it was about the same regarding the cheesy horror cliches. Prometheus is a better movie, but parts just look like it's directly swiped from AvP, which is again swiped from cheesy b-grade slasher movies, where the characters are so idiotic you wonder what the **** is wrong with them. There's certainly no real brain among them... not even the survivor.
No. I watch a movie for what's in the movie. It's called 12 Monkeys. That was all I was saying. .)
Kerr Avon
Master Member
Just yankin' your bulbs.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
****... they are on?
AggieChick42
Active Member
Yeap just as we assumed... there will be a sequel lmao
Noeland
Master Member
Fifield was smoking weed. Perhaps that was symbolic.
:cool
Hey, welcome to the RPF by the way. Did you sign up just to chat about the most hated film in 30 years?
Kerr Avon
Master Member
"cabin in the woods!" "cabin in the woods!"
Noeland
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Kerr Avon
Master Member
In it the use of marijuana should explain why people do stupid things, and at one point it's found out the marijuana was spiked by a bunch of people to make sure the stoners do the stupid things they do in horror movies. But they missed one stash the guy had and he was smoking 'non doped-dope'
Watch the movie. It's a brilliant take on horror movies.
Amazingly, I had avoided all CITW spoilers...until now.
Riceball
Master Member
That's because it was an ad hoc team with what seems to be little to no pre-planning, hell most of the team didn't even know each other prior to waking up from hyper-sleep. Then once on LV-223 it seemed to me that Halloway was just so damned eager to get going that he didn't bother with any sort of meeting to go over protocols, just grab you stuff and go. Add to that there was no clear chain of command either; Janek was in charge of the Prometheus but his authority didn't seem to go far outside of its hull, Halloway and Shaw were in charge of the expedition but they didn't choose or assemble their team, that was done for them, then you have Vickers who seemed to be in charge of the whole show or at least had the last word in everything but she was neither an expert on the Prometheus or some sort of experienced survival or expedition leader.
This is probably one of the biggest misunderstandings of the movie next to the confusion of LV-223 for LV-426, the geologist did not personally map the complex himself, he merely sent off the probes that did the mapping. At no point was there any indication that he was able to view the data from the probes from where he was, it appeared that the data was beamed back to the Prometheus and could only be viewed there.
I will grant you that the lack of concern over them being lost did seem odd to me too. Janek's apparent lack of concern had me initially thinking that he was in on the real reason for the mission and was a company man through and through. Obviously he wasn't aware of the true nature of the mission and was definitely was not sort of company lackey which does make it hard to really explain his lack of concern over the two lost boys. Then again, they really weren't his concern in a manner of speaking, after all, the ground mission really wasn't in his purview, they were Shaw & Halloway's people essentially and as a result, their responsibility.
The biologist and geologist were soundly against going anywhere near an unknown life form. They purposely went East to avoid the 'life form' detected to the West. And who wouldn't? Alone on an alien planet in alien ruins surrounded by alien dead ANNNND cut off from the ship both in terms of distance and by communication. I'd go East. Can I see a show of hands of anyone who'd go West without sufficient safeguards while lost underground in the dark and subsisting on canned air?
Then...
...they got caught in the room of oozing pots and the giant head and a freakish, faceless, albino snake slithered right up to them to say 'hello'.
Suddenly, the biologist wanted nothing more than to give a large glistening, slithering, tentacle worm a hug. The hell...? Did his healthy respect for the unknown, and therefore potentially dangerous, go right out the window in a place with no windows? There are insects no larger than a freckle that can pass diseases to you and me on Earth, but this guy reached out to a tentacle in a posturing stance that just screamed dangerous. Had this 'biologist' never seen a cobra, timber snake, rattler, or any other creature I could name demonstrate predatory posturing? Never mind that it had no eyes and nothing that would have communicated 'safe to touch'. Never mind that it came right up to him, which is generally a sign of fearless disdain or hostility in an animal sense. Never mind that he had NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS! It could have been as harmless as an earthworm, but it was the size of a vacuum hose! How thin was the air in his helmet that he would suddenly switch from his 'East not West' policy? The geologist was stuck in a helmet choked with hash, but the biologist was...what? Bipolar in his respect for the unknown? Selectively careless in the case of alien cave snakes?
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This one I'll grant you without argument, there is no real logical explanation for this one except for convenience of the plot. Of all of the so-called inconsistencies or plot holes in the movie this was the one that I couldn't understand or explain in any logical or meaningful fashion and was a definite WTF moment for me.
Mola Rob
Sr Member
Man this movie has opened up a major can of worms hasn't it? After thinking about the movie awhile my opinion remains pretty much unchanged. It's entertaining and beautiful to look at with some really stupid parts that are hard to overlook.
In some ways it has more in common with the cheesy Alien ripoffs from the late seventies and early '80's but it just has a wayyyyy bigger budget and far more talent all around.
I will just enjoy it and remember that Ridley Scott has a habit of making movies like this. Look at Legend and Black Rain, two movies with enormous potential that look like they went through numerous rewrites and were edited in a blender. Maybe Scott just needs to cut down on the caffeine.
In some ways it has more in common with the cheesy Alien ripoffs from the late seventies and early '80's but it just has a wayyyyy bigger budget and far more talent all around.
I will just enjoy it and remember that Ridley Scott has a habit of making movies like this. Look at Legend and Black Rain, two movies with enormous potential that look like they went through numerous rewrites and were edited in a blender. Maybe Scott just needs to cut down on the caffeine.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
When sending out the probes he very excitedly exclaims THIS WAY. And those were his surveyors, so him not being linked with them would be absolutely idiotic. But then again... he was an idiot... so... granted...
A semi-preserved head. Let's put needles in it and electrify it!
Prometheus 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Freaking idiots. They have this head that may contain BAD THINGS on it, yet they wear only surgical masks with skin exposed before it's been scanned. However, when it comes to Shaw getting pregnant with an evil rapey alien squid that's still inside her, NOW THEY'RE WEARING FULL BODY COVERING SUITS. These people are so dumb. If Damon Lindelof had wrote Alien, the characters would have thought Kane was still alive even after everyone saw him get ripped apart from the inside out.
This movie. I cannot believe people think this movie is legitimate class.
Prometheus 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Freaking idiots. They have this head that may contain BAD THINGS on it, yet they wear only surgical masks with skin exposed before it's been scanned. However, when it comes to Shaw getting pregnant with an evil rapey alien squid that's still inside her, NOW THEY'RE WEARING FULL BODY COVERING SUITS. These people are so dumb. If Damon Lindelof had wrote Alien, the characters would have thought Kane was still alive even after everyone saw him get ripped apart from the inside out.
This movie. I cannot believe people think this movie is legitimate class.
Any volunteers to go on a dangerous mission with this crew? LOL
I mean jeez, if they had taken the time to oh say, PROPERLY STUDY THE SITUATION FIRST maybe it wouldn't have ended with destruction of the ship and the entire crew save one.
Was a single moment of caution ever taken? LOL
This film is a monumental poster child on how NOT to explore a potentially dangerous situation, made worse by the advanced technology of an era of starships that could have done all the dangerous stuff remotely!
I know you need to have mechanisms for drama, but think about ALIEN, Kane was yes caught up in a moment of discovery but he slipped, he fell, an accident brought about that first major screw up in ALIEN.
In this flick they are effing doing everything wrong at every turn just asking for it.
Ugh!
I mean jeez, if they had taken the time to oh say, PROPERLY STUDY THE SITUATION FIRST maybe it wouldn't have ended with destruction of the ship and the entire crew save one.
Was a single moment of caution ever taken? LOL
This film is a monumental poster child on how NOT to explore a potentially dangerous situation, made worse by the advanced technology of an era of starships that could have done all the dangerous stuff remotely!
I know you need to have mechanisms for drama, but think about ALIEN, Kane was yes caught up in a moment of discovery but he slipped, he fell, an accident brought about that first major screw up in ALIEN.
In this flick they are effing doing everything wrong at every turn just asking for it.
Ugh!
Yeah! WTF????? Why???
I looked at my friend and said when did this movie become Re-Animator??? :facepalm
Kit Rae
Sr Member
I invite anyone to watch the movie again and pay attention to the scene just before Fifield and Milburn's supposed "lost" scene, and who they talk to literally seconds later, then ask yourself again if you think they were lost?
Another baffling misunderstanding I have read over and over is that "they would have picked the best and brightest for the most important mission in mankind's history". The ship was not built and launched specifically for this mission. It was just Weyland's top of the line research and exploration ship. Neither were all of the workers hand picked specifically for this job, nor were they supposed to be the best and the brightest. Weyland's true purpose for this mission was a secret between him and his "son". Project Prometheus was classified, his own personal project. Vickers implied that she and the company were at odds with him about it. The contract labor and/or company union workers staffing this ship were for the most part expendable to Weyland. The only important people for this journey to him were David, who was really handling the mission as far as he was concerned, and his security people. His main goal was to meet his maker and ask for longer life, but unlike Blade Runner, the maker kills his creation this time.
Vickers obviously did not believe any of this crap. She hand picked only a few people. The rest were Weyland regulars in their respective fields. To 90% of the crew, this was not "the most important discovery mission in human history". This was just another routine job, and it is implied by their attitudes and dialogue that the kind of work they were about to do was pretty routine to them, at least until the point were they realized this was anything but. None of this is implied in subtext. It's all laid our right there in the first 15 minutes of the film. They finish one job, get thrown in "the old freezerino" and awake to be told what the next job is.
The crew come from the same corporate-run, routine, union-labor worker mentality that is completely consistent with the characters on the Nostromo in Alien. Two of them were not so bright, and met their fates for that reason.
I guess you missed the decontamination procedure they did just prior to examining the head, then again immediately after it started to change? They actually had more dialogue and actions regarding decon than in Alien in that scene.
Another baffling misunderstanding I have read over and over is that "they would have picked the best and brightest for the most important mission in mankind's history". The ship was not built and launched specifically for this mission. It was just Weyland's top of the line research and exploration ship. Neither were all of the workers hand picked specifically for this job, nor were they supposed to be the best and the brightest. Weyland's true purpose for this mission was a secret between him and his "son". Project Prometheus was classified, his own personal project. Vickers implied that she and the company were at odds with him about it. The contract labor and/or company union workers staffing this ship were for the most part expendable to Weyland. The only important people for this journey to him were David, who was really handling the mission as far as he was concerned, and his security people. His main goal was to meet his maker and ask for longer life, but unlike Blade Runner, the maker kills his creation this time.
Vickers obviously did not believe any of this crap. She hand picked only a few people. The rest were Weyland regulars in their respective fields. To 90% of the crew, this was not "the most important discovery mission in human history". This was just another routine job, and it is implied by their attitudes and dialogue that the kind of work they were about to do was pretty routine to them, at least until the point were they realized this was anything but. None of this is implied in subtext. It's all laid our right there in the first 15 minutes of the film. They finish one job, get thrown in "the old freezerino" and awake to be told what the next job is.
The crew come from the same corporate-run, routine, union-labor worker mentality that is completely consistent with the characters on the Nostromo in Alien. Two of them were not so bright, and met their fates for that reason.
I guess you missed the decontamination procedure they did just prior to examining the head, then again immediately after it started to change? They actually had more dialogue and actions regarding decon than in Alien in that scene.
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