New Elstree Studio documentary with discarded Graflex.

I don’t know about you guys but I see Phillip head screws
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Yeah, those are rivets. I’m thinking the size is probably the same left and right, but who knows for sure right now. Maybe we’ll know more with more input eventually.

( Now to throw some more fuel on the wild speculation fire... I’m guessing the use of all rivets probably means it was all metal construction. Maybe it was two little L-brackets- one for each rivet on the d-ring. That way they wouldn’t have to fabricate a curved inner bracket to add extra support to everything.

Also, just from a personal point of view, if there was wood in the bottom of that graflex, I definitely would have used screws. I don’t buy them not using screws because “They don’t have philips screws in space!” when the prop builders didn’t bother covering the GRAFLEX on the clamp on the hero prop.)

Anyways, just my .02
 
Not saying I'm right...at ALL! just saying it's what I see. This is not me doing any sizing, just changing the opacity. the sizes are fixed, just so you can see if I'm overlapping them correctly.


Sometimes you can't unsee what you see!
I disagree with what you're seeing. What you see as a reflection on a rivet for me is the background behind the edge of the flash. The perspective size difference is negligible when you look at such a small portion of an image.
I still see two small ones left and two bigger ones right.
I wish somebody could just walk in with a caliper (and proofs that we are all slightly wrong!)
 
Good work, Trooper_trent! However, I do feel your rivet overlay in post #1,403 on the left rivet is a bit too big. It seems you are including too much of the shadow of the lower grip and the background behind as Roy pointed out. Because both those images of the rivets between the grips needed to be cropped down and magnified so much, the image degradation plays tricks on our eyes making it difficult to see clearly the actual size/shape of the rivets.

I must admit all this looking at rivets on props is making me feel like Kaa, lol.
 
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Gee whiz.

I have a GRAFLEX clamped into my drill press, waiting to be drilled, to accommodate the big / little, rivets and / or screws...the fate of the world hangs in the balance as I gaze at these pictures with crossed-eyes and an expression of blank stupidity.

BTW—any thoughts regarding moving this “side rivets” discussion to its own separate thread? If I didn’t know the conversation was taking place in the “discarded GRAFLEX” thread, I would be missing out on a major discovery.
 
Good work, Trooper_trent! However, I do feel your rivet overlay in post #1,403 on the left rivet is a bit too big. It seems you are including too much of the shadow of the lower grip and the background behind as Roy pointed out. Because both those images of the rivets between the grips needed to be cropped down and magnified so much, the image degradation plays tricks on our eyes making it difficult to see clearly the actual size/shape of the rivets.

I must admit all this looking at rivets on props is making me feel like Kaa, lol.
Yeah I was mostly going off of the curve of what you can clearly see and assuming the T track is covering the rest.
As I said, not saying I'm right. just what I was seeing. You won't hear me arguing the point any further LOL
 
BTW—any thoughts regarding moving this “side rivets” discussion to its own separate thread? If I didn’t know the conversation was taking place in the “discarded GRAFLEX” thread, I would be missing out on a major discovery.

I think we should have pinned master threads for each saber.
 
This has essentially become the ANH Graflex master thread, despite initially being about the Elstree prop. Of course, the Elstree would belong in an ANH Graflex master thread, too.
 
It turns out I had a replica strip in my ANH because I thinned it to fit my ESB Vader lightsaber, I did the pinch thing when that was the rage and couldn't undo it obviously. The Vader's clamp bars are much closer together so i could make it work for that.

Anyway, I have either a rebelscum or one of those ebay castings of a bubble strip. I experimented with the Elstree bevel. I quite like it
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Not drilling the back out until something comes out publicly
 
And yes, each bubble now has 2 spots because the sandpaper went a little long. I think I'm going to Novos this back up to clear
 
Question: That strip is trimmed so that either end of the rectangular depression under the bubbles is gone, and so the strip, when viewed head-on, looks roughly like an upside-down “U”. Any thoughts on whether the hero was trimmed this way? The Elstree certainly wasn’t. From what I can tell, it looks like they trimmed right up to the underside’s rectangular depression, but left the “walls” in place on either side. I have two bubblestrips—one in each configuration, pending more data.
 
Oh my god you're right. Thinned and then beveled even more! So the graflex teeth pinch the lower part of the bevel? Is it thick enough to do that? I'm getting confused, I didnt take much off but the elstree looks thicker
 
I also didnt trim the underside, I only did the long edges and cut it to the graflex.clamp length
 
No, no. I’m talking about the short sides of the strip, not the beveled sides. You trimmed them so that the “walls” are gone, and so there’s a visible, see-through channel on the underside of the strip.
 
No, no. I’m talking about the short sides of the strip, not the beveled sides. You trimmed them so that the “walls” are gone, and so there’s a visible, see-through channel on the underside of the strip.

Honestly greg, my vintage strip has .25 of a millimeter before the “pool” under the bubble strip

My bubble strip actually sticks out side the clamp a little, I would have had to cut into the “pool” to make it fit flush, I just split the difference

You can’t see by eye but can fill by finger nail
 
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