Sym-Cha
Master Member
Or if you have a real MPP with black sidebars you could make a ANH V2 with seven grips :love
-Chaim
-Chaim
Lightsaber Screws
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Bigdaddy
Master Member
Ok the thread title got my attention but this pic made me post :lol! This discussion has been going on a long time, I hope you get to the bottom of it before I start a SA saberThis is my last attempt of getting to the bottom of this ... perhaps this picture will get your attention?
:lol
-Chaim
PS I'm new the the saber scene but I always assumed rivets:unsure
epilepticsquirl
Sr Member
I still say it's both.
Sym-Cha
Master Member
Well I did try to explain it to you . . . but perhaps it's easier to read it here :
------- The Parts of Star Wars --------
check under ITEM then Lightsaber Skywalker ESB it's all there how to do it
-Chaim
While these are neat, The reflection doesnt cover the whole head..there id something in th middle, whether it's a circle or an X I'm not sure.I still say it's both.
Sym-Cha
Master Member
Apology accepted thd9791 . . .
What do you see screws or rivets?
©Chaim Murzan Photography 2013
-Chaim
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Lichtbringer
Master Member
It depends on the used picture. :lol
I'm going with screws for the same reason as Gino. We have conclusive proof of those at least.
I will go through ESB Bluray with a fine toothed comb, screen capture button at the ready, just as soon as I get round to ripping it to PC.
I will go through ESB Bluray with a fine toothed comb, screen capture button at the ready, just as soon as I get round to ripping it to PC.
VFX Freak
Sr Member
Hi all. I'm new to these threads but I'm starting to build my first saber, a Luke ANH. However, I started collecting the bits to make an ESB version, though I haven't decided which one. Thought I'd chime in with my two cents since I've been scouring these threads obsessively.
Whether black or silver, they look like button head socket cap screws to me. The great "Tongue Shot" (to go along with the famous "Toe Shot") looks to me like black button heads instead of rivets due to the profile and light kick. Just a little gleam from the flash and a hint of a hole in the middle.
I also agree with Lightsaberman's earlier comment that rivets would be a pain maintenance-wise. They must have screwed the grips on because they kept falling off. There was still a good chance of the grips breaking and still needing replacement, and drilling a rivet out on set would take too long. So I think they took the extra time to tap the holes to save time on set.
Also, the cutaway shot looks to me like button head screws threaded into the housing, not rivets anchored from within.
My two cents in five cents worth of space.
Whether black or silver, they look like button head socket cap screws to me. The great "Tongue Shot" (to go along with the famous "Toe Shot") looks to me like black button heads instead of rivets due to the profile and light kick. Just a little gleam from the flash and a hint of a hole in the middle.
I also agree with Lightsaberman's earlier comment that rivets would be a pain maintenance-wise. They must have screwed the grips on because they kept falling off. There was still a good chance of the grips breaking and still needing replacement, and drilling a rivet out on set would take too long. So I think they took the extra time to tap the holes to save time on set.
Also, the cutaway shot looks to me like button head screws threaded into the housing, not rivets anchored from within.
My two cents in five cents worth of space.
chaim,you have larger versions of the pics?
of maybe,cut the pics (screenshots with R2) to see he saber closely.
the toe pic looks like rivets
of maybe,cut the pics (screenshots with R2) to see he saber closely.
the toe pic looks like rivets
Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
Man, it's really hard to tell from the pics available.
If I were a betting man, I'd wager that they had used button head cap screws.
If I were a betting man, I'd wager that they had used button head cap screws.
Bigdaddy
Master Member
Looks like a nice compromise
Man, it's really hard to tell from the pics available.
If I were a betting man, I'd wager that they had used button head cap screws.
Sym-Cha
Master Member
okay ... there's something I have to confess, since some of you are now going for a third option
based on my Toe-Pic, which in fact I shot this morning in my kitchen using a Parks graflex and
as some of you noticed right away comes with . . . button head socket cap screws. :$
The point I'm trying to make here is that whatever the propmakers used it's pretty darn hard to
tell from smudgy 'old' blown-up fragments of pictures taken a long, long time ago. By the way
I took a real close-up as well of my ESB Toe-Pic re-creation :
© Chaim Murzan Photography 2013
So just picture those button head socket cap screws being painted black :confused and we'd have a third
option, unless those button head socket cap screws were not available in say 1979 ... or whenever
those grips were tightened to secure them from dropping off
-Chaim
based on my Toe-Pic, which in fact I shot this morning in my kitchen using a Parks graflex and
as some of you noticed right away comes with . . . button head socket cap screws. :$
The point I'm trying to make here is that whatever the propmakers used it's pretty darn hard to
tell from smudgy 'old' blown-up fragments of pictures taken a long, long time ago. By the way
I took a real close-up as well of my ESB Toe-Pic re-creation :
© Chaim Murzan Photography 2013
So just picture those button head socket cap screws being painted black :confused and we'd have a third
option, unless those button head socket cap screws were not available in say 1979 ... or whenever
those grips were tightened to secure them from dropping off
-Chaim
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Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
okay ... there's something I have to confess, since some of you are now going for a third option
based on my Toe-Pic, which in fact I shot this morning in my kitchen using a Parks graflex and
as some of you noticed right away comes with . . . button head socket cap screws. :$
The point I'm trying to make here is that whatever the propmakers used it's pretty darn hard to
tell from smudgy 'old' blown-up fragments of pictures taken a long, long time ago. By the way
I took a real close-up as well of my ESB Toe-Pic re-creation :
© Chaim Murzan Photography 2013
So just picture those button head socket cap screws being painted black :confused and we'd have a third
option, unless those button head socket cap screws were not available in say 1979 ... or whenever
those grips were tightened to secure them from dropping off
-Chaim
Actually bro, the "© Chaim Murzan Photography 2013" pretty much gave you away.
I made my suggestion because that kind of what I always assumed they were. Rivets, in this application, do not seem likely. A split rivet would be next to impossible to attach that way, and pop rivets would have a tendency to break the hard plastic of the T-Track, as they work via compression. Just my opinion though, and you know what they say about opinions.
Sym-Cha
Master Member
So . . . am I going to get some reps for recreating the famous ANH toe-pic with a Luke ESB lightsaber replica graflex . . . please? :lol
The polls are still open folks and unless we have absolute picture proof of what was used you may still utter your opinion and your vote : Screws vs. Rivets vs. Button Head Socket Cap Screws
-Chaim
The polls are still open folks and unless we have absolute picture proof of what was used you may still utter your opinion and your vote : Screws vs. Rivets vs. Button Head Socket Cap Screws
-Chaim
Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
So . . . am I going to get some reps for recreating the famous ANH toe-pic with a Luke ESB lightsaber replica graflex . . . please? :lol
The polls are still open folks and unless we have absolute picture proof of what was used you may still utter your opinion and your vote : Screws vs. Rivets vs. Button Head Socket Cap Screws
-Chaim
No reps for you!!!
...cus I get the spread 'em stick when I try. :lol
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