Kit Interest Thread - Studio Scale Slave One

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dakota_in_the_sky

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Hello,

I would like to get some opinions on this.

I would like to release a Slave One body in Studio Scale.

This would be a thick plastic vacuformed body. It would be of the lower hull, upper hull, and canopy. This will have no panel lines or greeblie detail.

The price depends on all the costs, but my goal is to have it be set at $150 for one, or $200 for two.

If this is successful, I'd like to eventually offer a detail plate of the chassis in resin, then the side "wings", and the interior. This part is probably years away, but I'd like to throw it out there.

What do you think?
 
I'm VERY interested. As a suggestion, though, you might want to see if someone will "partner" with you to produce a full kit. The hull components are technically the most difficult to reproduce, skill-wise. But, the kitbashed parts are still a hurdle to anyone completing an accurate Slave. Still, you've got a great idea and I would bet there will be plenty of interest. :)

Allan
 
Actually, I kinda like the idea of just havng the base components. I like the challenge of this hobby, and if it weren't for lack of time, I'd probably give it a go. It sort of forces you to remind yourself what the hobby is all about. And if you're like me (willing to make certain compromises) you can scratchbuild the missing kit components. Having a good shell might just be the impetus to get the ball rolling.

Either way, I guess I'm at least interested.

Gene
 
Interested indeed, ive wanted to carve this for a while, but my lack of vacforming access just blows it out the water, i think its a great idea.
On the subject of Tims amazing work, didnt he offer it up to MR?

lee
 
The hull is pretty complex and I don't think it can just be vacuum formed over a buck. It was obviously built up/sculpted in separate components in varying plastic thicknesses.


Tim had to scrap his first attempt due to anomalies in the original design he didn't realize at first and he's an expert modeler. Have you tackled anything so complex or large, it's a 27"+ model length wise?

Dimensions: The wing hub's are the fenders from the 1/8 entex Porsche for example, the massive amount of detail in the lower recess would need to be positively ID'd in order to nail the correct dimensions/depth. Sorry to play devils advocate but it's a project of immense research and work.
 
Yeah Tims hull was formed in several pieces wasnt it Jamie? The underbelly is a maze of time and lots of money for sure, but id still take a hull if it comes out accurate enough. Whos sculpting her Rob ?

lee
 
You can see is some the BTS photographs what looks like a buck for part the lower dish/hull. The material for this area is thick too.

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I'm VERY interested. As a suggestion, though, you might want to see if someone will "partner" with you to produce a full kit. The hull components are technically the most difficult to reproduce, skill-wise. But, the kitbashed parts are still a hurdle to anyone completing an accurate Slave. Still, you've got a great idea and I would bet there will be plenty of interest. :)

Allan
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Thanks. If the shells make money, I'll then use the funds to make the rest of the parts. I'll need a lot of help since I have only a few of the donar parts for the "chassis plate", wings, and interior.


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The hull is pretty complex and I don't think it can just be vacuum formed over a buck. It was obviously built up/sculpted in separate components in varying plastic thicknesses.


Tim had to scrap his first attempt due to anomalies in the original design he didn't realize at first and he's an expert modeler. Have you tackled anything so complex or large, it's a 27"+ model length wise?

Dimensions: The wing hub's are the fenders from the 1/8 entex Porsche for example, the massive amount of detail in the lower recess would need to be positively ID'd in order to nail the correct dimensions/depth. Sorry to play devils advocate but it's a project of immense research and work.
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For vacuforming, I'm taking it to a fellow modeler. He runs a pro vacuforming shop. The body will be done in parts.


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Whos sculpting her Rob ?

lee
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I have several choices. I was waiting to see what kind of interest there is.

Option 1: Ask my CAD person to use Photos, diagrams, and the Fine Molds Slave One to make one in 3D.
Then machine it on a CNC machine.

Option 2: Find a builder who has experience building masters and hire that person.
Anyone know someone who would be right for this project?
 
I can think of only one with great knowledge of the task at hand and that would be Tim, getting him onside? Man i dont know :confused

lee
 
What are you using to assure accuracy? I know when Tim started his one of the reason he stopped working the project was assuring his accuracy which was affected by focal length in photos. I started scaling this project about a year ago and I got to admit this is going to be a daunting task.

Lee
 
If the parts are accurate, I will take a set for $200.

Regarding offering my Slave 1 to MR, I am definitely interested.
I have all the model kit parts for kit bashing sitting here.
The reason why I did not finish my three Slave 1 models, is that they are not accurate enough.

I already built a new CG model I was going to have milled and vacuformed, but that would most likely also not be 100% accurate.

I would like to build a model that is dead-on. And a scan from the original model would definitely be helpful.

Tim
 
There are no accurate diagrams, photographs are generally only useful when donor kits are in hand to gauge dimensions, placement etc, you need a lot. Fine molds would get a reasonable facsimile if it would scale up properly and match the studio model, but one would need to know the exact size of every area of the original in order to do this.

It's one thing to build a hull when you have many donor parts to gauge the size/shape of the original but the slave one doesn't have too much on the hull to go from. The only way I see it being done properly is to gather as many high rez photographs as possible (100's) and systematically deconstruct the model to make accurate plans alongside figuring out what the donor parts are. As Lee mentioned you have to assure accuracy.
Then it would be a matter of reverse engineering the plans to make it into a kit, sculpting bucks etc. The main hull of the original was pieced together from many different pieces of plastic so again I don't think it can be vacuum formed at all.

Wish Tim would chime in and explain the difficulty of this project. He's gotten closer than anyone thus far.










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Option 1: Ask my CAD person to use Photos, diagrams, and the Fine Molds Slave One to make one in 3D.
Then machine it on a CNC machine.
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Wish Tim would chime in and explain the difficulty of this project. He's gotten closer than anyone thus far.
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He did already.... 21 minutes before you posted this... ;) :lol

A Slave 1 would be pretty cool though.

Lynn
 
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