Jackieisrockin's IM3 Iron Patriot Pepakura Files! V2 files coming soon!

[r11no]

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Yep. It'd cover my 3"x2" arc well !
About the helmet, I think it will open like all the previous helmets, since the MK47 also opens like usual and these two suits seem relatively close. Now how I don't know if the wings do cause a problem or not but if you take a look at this pic (projectearth7's helmet):

It looks like it slides out without too much trouble. If it doesn't, we'll have to figure out a system that pushes the faceplate out, then rotates it on the top of the helmet. The jaw apparently slides out forward, if it's like the MK47.

laelle, didn't you say a few pages back that you had an idea on how to animate the cannon ? Because I had a crazy idea that just might work with some knowledge in arduino programmation, or some help from a guy like therealtonystark :
what if we could link the cannon to an accelerometer in the helmet ? This way, when the cannon is up, it follows your watch : wether you look left right up or down, it reacts accordingly ? That'd be awesome, don't you think ?

i think that faceplate didn't open like that...because that line(across on face plate) make me thinking it will open like mark V...maybe it will slide in 3 way..right,left and upper then close become 1 faceplate

 

[teragon]

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Plausible, but the MK 47 also has similar lines in it but it opens normally anyway. Plus the comic also has it open normally, plus there are grooves on each side of the Mohawk, like rails for the face plate.

Laelle, that sounds good ! Unfortunately I can't help much more here, my electronic skills are very limited (meaning I can build circuits with instructions, but not designing them) and I only know web oriented languages. But if I can help any other way, let me know !

 

[ladman]

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Yep. It'd cover my 3"x2" arc well !
About the helmet, I think it will open like all the previous helmets, since the MK47 also opens like usual and these two suits seem relatively close. Now how I don't know if the wings do cause a problem or not but if you take a look at this pic (projectearth7's helmet):

It looks like it slides out without too much trouble. If it doesn't, we'll have to figure out a system that pushes the faceplate out, then rotates it on the top of the helmet.

i guess that looks like it would work fine. like you said teragon, if it doesn't we will just have to design something to push out the face plate.

laelle, didn't you say a few pages back that you had an idea on how to animate the cannon ? Because I had a crazy idea that just might work with some knowledge in arduino programmation, or some help from a guy like therealtonystark :
what if we could link the cannon to an accelerometer in the helmet ? This way, when the cannon is up, it follows your watch : wether you look left right up or down, it reacts accordingly ? That'd be awesome, don't you think ?

I love this idea!! kind of reminds me of how the Predator shoulder cannon works when he is looking around and the cannon follows him. I was thinking this could also be done with a servo that could be hand held or controlled with button presses hidden with in the finger tips, so that when you extend your fingers, it would press a button and move the cannon up, down, left, or right.

That would be awesome. I've already put together the physical layout for servos and the microcontroller to do this, and I can script the arduino to do this. The helmet link is is the tricky part though, and one of the reasons I wanted to finish figuring out the neck movement. My wiring schematic uses a couple of potentiometers between the helmet and suit (left-right, up-down). A practical install that's reliable and disconnectable is still in the works; I would also like to try using flex sensors instead to measure the helmet movement; I've never gotten around to using these in a circuit, but they look like they could translate head movements into a much more reliable signal. If anybody here has worked with one of these, please PM me.


ladman- Nice find on that LED panel! I especially like the price

where do you guys get the electronics to do this from? and Im glad that the square LED board will work out!! They had a very huge selection on colors as well, i think you can even mix and match them. so that way if you did red LED's around the outer and white LED's in the center, it would create that glow we were talking about a few posts back.

 

[jackieisrockin]

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They had a very huge selection on colors as well, i think you can even mix and match them. so that way if you did red LED's around the outer and white LED's in the center, it would create that glow we were talking about a few posts back.

Agreed :thumbsup really good find

 

[ladman]

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teragon, i cant get your idea out of my head. so i have been doing some research on how to make this become an awesome reality!

I think all we would need to make this happen is a 360 dregree rotating servo. I have found one here:

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10189

Here is a Acceleromer that could be mounted inside the helmet to the top. it can detect X, Y, and Z movements, as well as be set up for tilt.

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9267?

Battery Supply:

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8484

I have never done electronics before, so this is new to me, but I think that if we had a accelometer that would detect the angle that the helmet is turning, and set up way points for them to activate the rotating servo to spin when it hits those degrees in the positive or negative ( example: +180 or -180, turning to the left or right ), then it should be possible. I'll keep digging and see what i can find. THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN, it's too cool of a concept not too.

Here is a YouTube video i found on a rotating servo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=I_KAqs2j7qY


UPDATE as of 9:28pm:

I just emailed therealtonystark, and asked him for his help with this. I had a really cool idea to tack on to this concept.

What if we put LED's at the end of the cannon that would charge up and then fire a blast sound from a speaker when your head is stationary in a position for a few seconds? it would be like the Unibeam that therealtonystark created, but put into the cannon? An even simpler design would be to just put a dissembled toy gun in the cannon and a button in the forearm or hands to fire the cannon.

Update 10:21pm

Just heard back from therealtonystark, he actuley worked on a protoype for something just like this for the IM2 Warmachine. Here is a link to that YouTube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8z9C1RfBMQ

he gave me a list of possible parts and it came out to about $300 to $400 dollars. He asked where a good spot would be to mount this, and i did not have a good answer for him, due to the fact that the plate that allows the cannon to flip forward will not allow any type of rotation. i was thinking of making a modification to the cannon to allow a rotation pivot plate where the cannon flips up and over the shoulder?

 

[teragon]

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Don't know if 360 is really necessary, I personally can't turn my head backward :lol
No but I was thinking one servo for horizontal rotation at the base of the cannon in the arm, and a second one for vertical rotation in the cannon. Now how to connect and program this, I'am as clueless as you are !

Also, I've finished the arc reactor :

As you can see, it's a 3 part design (green thing in the middle represent the leds) that works as a box. It needs a front panel of course, I'm cutting mine out of white pvc sheet for better diffusion. The reason there is an outer and inner ring is because the inner ring is to be directly printed in red, the outer in grey, and it makes it easier if to paint if needed anyway. There is also a small hole for the wires in the back plate, at the top, so it's possible to run them to a central power source or arduino board or whatnot.
I'll upload the file tomorrow, just remember it's scaled for my suit, so it's 3"x2,1"x0,39" and slightly asymmetrical to fit the suit.

edit : the red bits pointing inwards are to low in the pics, they are centered in the model, no worries, it escaped my watch when I took the print screens

 

[laellee]

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Nice work on the reactor body! That looks slick!

Ladman- That's the general idea I've got worked out. Two servos control tilt and yaw, and the movement limits can be programmed into the microcontroller's script.

 

[jackieisrockin]

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Ladman- Great research! I agree it does seem like a super cool addition to add to someones suit for that extra :eek effect :thumbsup

Teragon- Thats too cool! It looks great! Do you have any plans on uploading it to shapeways?



Well the wait is finally (almost) over! I give you: The forearm!!! :cool
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Again im really sorry for the delay everyone but it has now been sent to IronLeoMan for unfolding so you should all have it soon

 

[Don Juan]

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Woooohoooo

 

[ironmaided]

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Well the wait is finally (almost) over! I give you: The forearm!!! :cool
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:cry finally!

 

[IronLeoMan]

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the unfolding is done and sens back to jackieisrockin

 

[teragon]

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thanks jackieisrockin and IronLeoMan !

I can upload it to shapeways but I was planning to give you the models here so you can modify them anyway you want !

blender file : arc.blend
inner arc .obj : arcinner.obj
outer arc .obj : arcouter.obj
back arc .obj : arcback.obj

 

[Mdonci]

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i was thinking of making a modification to the cannon to allow a rotation pivot plate where the cannon flips up and over the shoulder?

Actually I am not building az IP, I have a Mark 7 in progress right now, but I don't think it's a diffucult problem.
After a few minues of thinking I found out an idea - not too detailed. You should probably use a belt ( Something like this) with a little stepper motor, or servo to move the cannon to you shoulder. After that another servo can turn it forward. Inside the cannon you need other 2 servos which can rotate the cannon horizontally and vertically. If you put an accelerometer in your forearm, you can control the cannon easily (after pushing an on-off button than allows controlling).

This is my idea, hope you like it

 

[ladman]

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Well the wait is finally (almost) over! I give you: The forearm!!!

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwyeahhhhhhhhhhhh!! Great work man!!

thanks jackieisrockin and IronLeoMan !

I can upload it to shapeways but I was planning to give you the models here so you can modify them anyway you want !

blender file : arc.blend
inner arc .obj : arcinner.obj
outer arc .obj : arcouter.obj
back arc .obj : arcback.obj

MINT!! Cant wait to get the chest done and put this bad boy in

Actually I am not building az IP, I have a Mark 7 in progress right now, but I don't think it's a diffucult problem.
After a few minues of thinking I found out an idea - not too detailed. You should probably use a belt ( Something like this) with a little stepper motor, or servo to move the cannon to you shoulder. After that another servo can turn it forward. Inside the cannon you need other 2 servos which can rotate the cannon horizontally and vertically. If you put an accelerometer in your forearm, you can control the cannon easily (after pushing an on-off button than allows controlling).

This is my idea, hope you like it

That sounds cool too. at this rate there is going to be more electronics in my suit then foam. lol:lol



I'm working on a new cannon model to see if i can detach that part on the bottom of the cannon that attaches to the what im calling flip plate ( see the lower pic ) so that i can put the rotation servo inside the cannon and make it rotate on that plate.

i will post a picture when its built. I might just be able to get away with just making this bottom piece and getting it 3d printed, instead of having to do the whole cannon. But if i do that, then i'm not sure on how it would be attached to the foam. I might just get the entire cannon 3d printed and then cut the bottom piece out.

 

[quovadis0920]

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Well the wait is finally (almost) over! I give you: The forearm!!! :cool
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Again im really sorry for the delay everyone but it has now been sent to IronLeoMan for unfolding so you should all have it soon

Just so happy for these pieces. The masterpiece is nearly complete.

 

[Mdonci]

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i will post a picture when its built. I might just be able to get away with just making this bottom piece and getting it 3d printed, instead of having to do the whole cannon. But if i do that, then i'm not sure on how it would be attached to the foam. I might just get the entire cannon 3d printed and then cut the bottom piece out.

In my opinion printing the whole cannon in 3D will give you a heavy thing on your shoulder, which might need an aluminium frame on your body, and a way stronger servo.

 

[ladman]

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In my opinion printing the whole cannon in 3D will give you a heavy thing on your shoulder, which might need an aluminium frame on your body, and a way stronger servo.

This is true :lol

i might be able to get away with just making that piece out of plastic. if i do make the entire cannon from printed plastic, then i would have to re-enforce the back of the suit to hold that added weight. not sure how heavy it could be, never had anything 3d printed before.

 

[jackieisrockin]

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Ironmaided- :lol yes its here

IronLeoMan- Thanks again for the super fast unfolding!!!

Teragon- Awesome idea! Let me PM you about some details :thumbsup

Quovadis0920- lol Well its finally here for you to build 6 of them

Again im really sorry for the delay on this piece but now you can all enjoy . Added the link to the first post :thumbsup
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But remember, the forearm and the bicep MUST be at the same scale

 

[ladman]

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Wooooooooooooooooooooooooot!!

 

[teragon]

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For the cannon, I'm building mine out of very thin yet rigid foamboard. It's very lightweight and quite sturdy, although I might give it a coat of resin inside too make sure it's solid enough. Probleme with 3D printing something this big is that it's going to cost you a lot, even by breaking it into pieces.
About the parts needed for the electronics, do you have a list of what therealstark had in mind ? Because 400$ seems really high, I'm no expert but appart from the accelerometer, couple of servos, power source, arduino board and a few leds, I don't see what is still needed ? The rest is mostly programmation no ? I can get all of this for 150€ easily !

Also, if you have an Ikea near you, check in the warehouse market part where all the boxes are for ribbed tubbing, it looks terrific for in between fingers :