Is Darth Vader's saber blade painted (ANH) & blade flexing.

[kurtyboy]

V3?

WEIRD this must be a stunt where the emitter is not attached to the blade

 

[thd9791]

V3?

Thats the only thing I can come up with, maybe the V2 was literally the next experiment while they were filming

 

[kurtyboy]

Then it's the V3 used in the duel. A spinning emitter is not discernible in any shot.

 

[Mouse Vader]

Nice work Kurtyboy post #155 vid really shows the emitter face stock still & that blade whizzing round. Looks to be doing 7/8 or 1 1/4 of a rotation every 3 frames, so 7 or 10 turns / sec = 420 / 600 RPM & faster than I normally see.

Post #158 video - this looks like the swap out of sabers M.Hamill describes in the V2 reunuion vid with Brandon. Starts with the OB1 hero pointing to camera then props guys rush in swap sabers & wire up then Alec G moves his wrist to show the blade, edit out the swap. Hence the wires magically appear.

WEIRD this must be a stunt where the emitter is not attached to the blade

I've just watched it full screen frame by frame & swap is to a V2 type, it's just the emitter face is being drowned out by glare & blur. They are visible just after the blade ignites/swapped.

White wires are a strange choice.

 

[Mouse Vader]

Then it's the V3 used in the duel. A spinning emitter is not discernible in any shot.

Took this screen grab - view the vid frame by frame here - look where my cursor is pointing in the screen grab, it's the same bright spot seen in the other clip & it's also stationary.

 

[kurtyboy]

My favourite... the spinning stick (no spinning emitter)!

 

[kurtyboy]

Boy, Youtube sure cr*ps on the video quality. It looks nothing like the file I encoded and uploaded!

 

[kpax]

Dude, the wires appear the instant the saber is "ignited". Why make them white? You'd have to ask the special effects team that.

Thanks for the new vid. Easier to see now on my phone.

I wasnt doubting the wire or motor. Just the color wire choice.

I did note that AG looks st the saber and seems to be looking for the off switch.

 

[kpax]

My favourite... the spinning stick (no spinning emitter)!

Where is this from. Very nice shot.

 

[kurtyboy]

Where is this from. Very nice shot.

 

[Mouse Vader]

video is from the AG BTS

Kpax that's the cantina scene right ? - out takes. I'll be doing a post on that once we're more settled over this emitter business.

I did note that AG looks st the saber and seems to be looking for the off switch.

I see what you mean - eyes down (not head) & reaching back with his rt thumb. Odd because I was going to use this same clip to show that, although it's a spiny blade job, it's not plugged in - no wires & the blade does weird things ie slowly rotates one way then the other. I'll cover it in more detail later.

 

[Mouse Vader]

That stickman blade material has taken a real beating !

From your other vid. I think the material is coming off - left hand side of black stripe as we look at it. - where my cursor is.

 

[thd9791]

Yep, I agree. holy crap, the nipple is moving.

The interesting thing is that Brandon used a shot from the Duel to screen match the V2. That was the clamp though, which can be removed.

 

[kurtyboy]

That's what makes me think it's more of a blade collar, like the ones in the Roger C archives video.

Yep, I agree. holy crap, the nipple is moving.

The interesting thing is that Brandon used a shot from the Duel to screen match the V2. That was the clamp though, which can be removed.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

So the collar and that thin metal rod make up the V2 nipple?

Do you think maybe the emitter was never made to be movable but since it had a thin neck and was hollow to hold the spinning mechanism, that by the time it showed up in Return of the Jedi, the emitter broke away? Then they just modified it to be a static prop, added a little tape for good measure?

 

[kpax]

so, where is the motor for these spinners? anyone make a replica with a motor...

 

[thd9791]

halliwax Paging you and your motorized V2!

 

[kurtyboy]

Inside the hollow aluminium cast hilt of course.

so, where is the motor for these spinners? anyone make a replica with a motor...

 

[vadermania]

Wow, I'm impressed. Very cool vid's showing the static emitter and peeling scotchlite tape on the spinning blade, thanks kurtyboy! It makes more and more sense to me now that the Obi blade from the duel was a black painted balsa rod covered in scotchlite tape, leaving a thin black line to achieve the flicker when spinning.

 

[Dann]

WEIRD this must be a stunt where the emitter is not attached to the blade

Have you never seen the "making of", where he's holding the stunt hilt, blade detached, they yell *cut!", and the effects dude runs in with the blade and shoves it down the emitter hole? (I guess one could see it another way, I haven't watched that in a long time)

I guess I always assumed that the nipples/collars were part of the stunt blades for old Ben's saber. Then in Jedi, it became part of Luke's new hilt design, either on purpose, or on accident, to make it differ from old Ben's.

And those are GREAT little video clips! They clearly show things that I'd really have to squint to see! Very cool, thanks for those!