Indiana Jones 5 officially announced

I stopped caring about the specifics of this movie months ago. The real-life trainwreck production is predictable and it's still probably more interesting than the movie itself.

I mean, we all know the bottom line. It's another troubled KK show that checks off the usual boxes. Replace the old male hero with a superior white/brunette woman, reshoot half the movie in a frantic rush to fix the wrong-headed script, and end up with a frustrating result that loses money.
 
I will say that one of the things that bothered me the most about it was that Disney is determined to make the characters that they bought from Lucas, sad, shadow versions of the characters that we grew up loving and cheering for. Disney did it with Star Wars and now they have done it will Indiana Jones. This is not the Indy we knew from the last 4 movies. Even when he is out on his adventure, it just doesn't seem like the old Indy. And it's not due to Ford's acting. It;s due to what he has to work with.
I will say that most of the people I saw the film with (press members) liked the film and gave it a thumbs up. But I think it's sad that this is the film that they will end the franchise with.
This genuinely makes me sad to read.
 
It's another troubled KK show that checks off the usual boxes. Replace the old male hero with a superior white/brunette woman…

Kennedy does seem to have a “thing” for casting brunette British females as the Disney era cinematic protagonists, with varying levels of success.

It’s a bit weird…

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This is the exact reason why I won't watch it. I've seen too many icons torn down to want to watch another one of my fictional heroes reduced into a pathetic loser. There's nothing appealing about that whatsoever.

But this time the old hero slobbers down booze and passes out in his recliner instead of suckling fresh green milk from the udder of a sea monster.

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You see, he’s not a total loser in this particular deconstruction.
 
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I got to see the film last week. I didn't love it and I didn't hate it. Sadly, it was just "okay".
I didn't read any online reviews or see any leaks before I saw it, so I can't comment on what they might have said about it, but I will say that one of the things that bothered me the most about it was that Disney is determined to make the characters that they bought from Lucas, sad, shadow versions of the characters that we grew up loving and cheering for. Disney did it with Star Wars and now they have done it will Indiana Jones. This is not the Indy we knew from the last 4 movies. Even when he is out on his adventure, it just doesn't seem like the old Indy. And it's not due to Ford's acting. It;s due to what he has to work with.
I will say that most of the people I saw the film with (press members) liked the film and gave it a thumbs up. But I think it's sad that this is the film that they will end the franchise with.

So, worse than Crystal Skull, eh?
 
But this time the old hero slobbers down booze and passes out in his recliner instead of suckling fresh green milk from the udder of a sea monster.

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You see, he’s not a total loser in this particular deconstruction.

In case any kids happen to see all of the Indiana Jones films they'll know that they have that to look forward to after becoming a hero.
 
And let us not forget that Mork made an appearance on Lavern & Shirley, which was a spinoff of Happy Days. So Mork and Mindy was a spinoff, of a spinoff, that also appeared on another spinoff, before he got his own show. <insets head scratch here> :oops: :unsure::lol:

Wait. Mork was introduced on Happy Days, not L&S. I remember it was an episode about the Fonz encountering a UFO.
 
Wait. Mork was introduced on Happy Days, not L&S. I remember it was an episode about the Fonz encountering a UFO.
Yes. He was on Happy Days first, then made an appearance on Lavern & Shirley.
I was responding to the person talking about the chain of spin-offs, and I noted that Mork also appeared on L&S, thus making a joke about his chain of appearances. But I know he started on Happy Days. ;)
 
For me, I think the “deconstructed hero” works best when it’s a new character, inspired by an older one, that has more depth. Like, James Bond was this pure escapist fantasy of what men wanted to be in the 20th century. Cool, suave, drinks and gets laid all the time, says just the right thing at just the right time. Along comes Indiana Jones. He’s still escapist, still a version of what “men want to be”, but he’s more fallible. More human. He gets knocked on his ass. He never gets/keeps the treasure at the end. He’s out of his depth a lot. But he’s still a college professor, still sleeps around, etc., etc. Then you get something like the Uncharted games and Nathan Drake, who is even more of an everyman. He likes to think of himself as cool and suave, but more often than not he’s getting by on pure luck. He’s still smart and knows a lot about history, but he’s more morally grey than Indy, because Nate is straight-up a treasure hunter, looking for a payday. His character struggles, of feeling like everything he touches turns to ****, of feeling like some kind of human wrecking ball, and in the final game, his marital problems, tell a much more human story without losing the fun and escapism. So, Nathan Drake is a deconstruction of Indy in a way, but in a way that doesn’t diminish Indiana Jones. Just like how (in my opinion, at least) Indy is a sort of deconstruction of James Bond without feeling like parody or of tearing anything down.
 
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