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Indiana Jones 5 officially announced
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Yeah I think that's why they have problems locating Biblical sites because the names have changed or the geography described has changed. I would think by now the Ark would be dust itself because it was supposedly just wood with gold leaf. Unless something supernatural kept it intact.
The Ark of the Covenant is in the Temple of God in heaven. It is revealed as being there in Revelation 11:19.
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The Goon
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VonMagnum
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In a desert climate that's protected from direct rain in particular, I don't think wood would turn to dust in 2000 years. It might be starting to turn into a petrified version under some circumstances. I'm not sure it was gold leaf used either (hard to say what "overlaid" in gold means and even that word is a translation. Today it would likely be gold plated, which would seal the wood and make it even less likely to fall apart if care was given.
Certainly, the church in Ethiopia claims to have the original to this very day (they also claimed to have made many copies so to discourage thieves). One can claim anything, of course, but I liked the Ancient Aliens episode on the subject. The guardians of a particular church there are in the job for life and not allowed to leave the compound. The guy on the show had talked to multiple guardians and they all seemed to have very short lifespans in that job, one showing his rather severe cataracts to him and saying the Ark caused them just being near it as it is a "thing of fire". The show and at least one book (The Manna Machine) claims the device to create manna in the Bible was stored in the Ark and had to be removed/cleaned once a week and that was the reason for the Sabbath cycle of collecting twice as much on Friday as it had to be cleaned by the priests before being used again.
The speculation on the show is that the device was actually given to them by angels (which means messenger or intermediary not some spiritual ghost-like being) from an advanced E.T. civilization and that is what kept them alive in the desert all those years and the reactor powering or recharging this device would have likely been stored in the Ark as well and that is that is also what could create a massive charge that could kill someone if they touched the ark without the proper procedure (a way to short the charge safely first) before opening the lid. We know it could be opened safely after assembled because that's where they stored the ten commandments, Aaron's rod and a jar of manna for future generations to see (after the priests removed it and brought it out). Thus, I was only partly kidding with the "security system" bit because in fact, if the ark had to be discharged of some kind of electrical buildup (acting like a capacitor or battery with the angels on top being the two terminals), it is indeed a kind of security system....
Furthermore, if the Ark is in Ethiopia and in a bad state/condition due to its age, this "reactor" could be leaking quite badly by now some kind of radiation that even at a distance could cause cancer (let alone cataracts) or some kind of radiation poisoning over time, which would explain why the guardians there don't live very long after taking the job despite the fact they claim to not open it or even go in the same room as it.
The show is all speculation, of course, but I'm not certain alien explanations are less plausible than supernatural ones (but kind of takes the fun out of the final scene in Raiders if it were merely a technological device).
That reminds me of the movie Bubba Ho-Tep for some reason.
Egon Spengler
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They'll probably kill him in this one and I'm tired of seeing our heroes die in films with mediocre wannabe replacements.
I've wondered if this wasn't why Mangold was hired, to kill off a much loved, iconic character with some grace, dignity, & emotional closure. He was pretty effective accomplishing that with LOGAN.
Harrison Ford Injures Shoulder Rehearsing ‘Indiana Jones 5’ Fight Scene; Production To Shoot Around Recovery
Harrison Ford Hurt Rehearsing Fight Scene For 'India Jones 5;' Production To Shoot Around Recovery
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Bigdaddy
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That's what stunt doubles are for Harrison!Harrison Ford Injures Shoulder Rehearsing ‘Indiana Jones 5’ Fight Scene; Production To Shoot Around Recovery
Harrison Ford Hurt Rehearsing Fight Scene For 'India Jones 5;' Production To Shoot Around Recovery
Probe Droid
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CUT!!!
VonMagnum
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Harrison Ford Injures Shoulder Rehearsing ‘Indiana Jones 5’ Fight Scene; Production To Shoot Around Recovery
Harrison Ford Hurt Rehearsing Fight Scene For 'India Jones 5;' Production To Shoot Around Recovery
The likelihood of rotator cuff and tendon tears goes up and up the older you get. My mother somehow managed to completely sever 3 tendons in one of her arms just lifting something above her head in her mid 60's in a repetitive fashion. Using a whip or (even pretending to be) fighting fisticuffs at 78 doesn't seem terribly advisable. He might not even fully recover (my mother can't use her arm as well as before even with the repairs and I know a few people much younger at work that have ongoing rotator cuff pains despite multiple surgeries.
If the cartilage degrades, it's bad (one guy at work tore something when he was playing football in his twenties; he's had 3 surgeries and the best they can do now is clean the bone fragments out and send him back to physical therapy. He gets terrible pains if he moves it in certain directions above his head for long. This is why I didn't play football. Not worth it (he screwed a knee up from something like that too. Add gaining weight and he's a miserable bugger these days at only 48). Our medical science still mostly sucks. We're still basically in the stone ages in most areas.
p51
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I don't think many have taken these claims seriously that the Ark is in the Church of St. Mary of Zion at Axum, otherwise why didn't Italian troops try to bring it back to Rome when they invaded Ethiopia?
Edward Ullendroff, former Professor of Ethiopian Studies at the University of London said that he personally examined the ark at Axum in 1941 while there with the British Army and said, "They have a wooden box, but it's empty. Middle- to late-medieval construction, when these were fabricated ad hoc."
There are various places people have thought the ark wound up in over the ages, including the US (with that whole silly Knights Templar treasure deal).
I hope he hasn’t injured the arm that’s attached to his dominant finger-pointing hand….yikes!
Production has shut down for 3 months so Harrison can have surgery. Apparently it's pretty bad from all the reports coming out. I hope he's alright. But honestly isn't this just another sign he really should pack it in? Like I said previously I never had an issue with him reprising the character because unlike Han or Deckard he really does have a sincere fondness for Indy, but realistically I think it's just becoming apparent that he's really too old to be doing this stuff, despite being in great shape. I keep seeing articles acknowledging how good he looks for his age or how fit he is despite it, but this just feels like that sad moment where you have to take away grandpa's keys because it's not safe for him to drive anymore. I respect my elders but there has to be a balance between giving a person the dignity and respect to do whatever they want and also not wanting them to be embarrassed by their attempts at independence when they don't want to acknowledge their own age.
I don't know, I really hope I'm wrong and that he makes a full and speedy recovery regardless of how the movie turns out, but it doesn't bode well considering troubled productions often yield mixed results.
I don't know, I really hope I'm wrong and that he makes a full and speedy recovery regardless of how the movie turns out, but it doesn't bode well considering troubled productions often yield mixed results.
ID10T
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That sounds pretty serious.
I hope he recovers quickly as well, but having surgery, regardless of his "fitness", at this age, carries increased risk.
But, yeah. Where the heck was the stuntman? It seems he is taking risks he certainly shouldn't be taking. Unless he tripped on a cable while carrying that big cup of coffee...
I hope he recovers quickly as well, but having surgery, regardless of his "fitness", at this age, carries increased risk.
But, yeah. Where the heck was the stuntman? It seems he is taking risks he certainly shouldn't be taking. Unless he tripped on a cable while carrying that big cup of coffee...
I think the 3 month estimate came from a tabloid. Mangold and Frank Marshall both tweeted today about filming continuing. Frank showed a pic that suggested he was at pinewood studios.
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