Indiana Jones 5 officially announced

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Dsimdude

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I just joined this thread, so I haven't read all of it. This may be a rehash, but:

The original Raiders of the Lost Art was released in June of 1981. It took place in 1936.

1981 was exactly 40 years ago. Therefore, in theory, this new movie should take place in 1976, if we're going to allow for the real-time aging of Harrison Ford AKA Indiana Jones.

So I hear that Indiana Jones is fighting Nazis again in this new film. Really? Nazis? In 1976?!

What the %$#*^@?!!
 

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CadetTK2386

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I just joined this thread, so I haven't read all of it. This may be a rehash, but:

So I hear that Indiana Jones is fighting Nazis again in this new film. Really? Nazis? In 1976?!

What the %$#*^@?!!

You might want to catch up some of the more recent posts in this thread. The potential leaked plot line has an explanation, if its true.
 

Riceball

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So there is a detail in there that makes absolutely no sense to me.

If Reibold was working for the Nazis then why would his family have been killed in the death camps? If anything his family should have been protected. Unless they are essentially rehashing his character from Rogue One and he's being forced to work for them against his will. I also find it interesting too that like Crystal Skull Indy is aiding the enemy in some way- remember Indy not exactly fighting back when they are captured in the Jungle by Cate Blanchet. That never felt right to me. The fact that Mutt tried to get them out of that mess felt weird. Anyway, while I can understand the U.S. wanting to get their hands on the device before the Russians, it seems unlikely that Indy would become close friends with a Nazi scientist, unless Riebold intended to defect from the German side. Idk. It does seem like a plausible plot outline, and I'm not entirely hating it, nor am I really loving it either.

The other thing that feels off about it is that there is no link to ancient artifacts other than a vague reference to Atlantis. Which also brings up other questions. Time travel feels more sci-fi than serialized action adventure like Indiana Jones. I think tonally it could end up feeling not quite right for Indy. There does seem to be some religious element in the McGuffin that has personal significance to the people who made/ discovered it, and Indy has no reverence for the item in question. He might respect it's historical significance and he might be awed by its power, but ultimately he's not attached to it emotionally.

I think it's clear that if there is any credence to this leak, and the spy pictures are clear that there will be at least some CGI de-aging, which I'm thinking runs the risk for some really uncanny valley going on. Plus if any time travel element is involved it would certainly line up with the idea of rebooting the franchise with another actor so that they can tell other adventure stories within different times rather than having to adjust the story to account for Harrison's age. In essence if this pans out then they have the chance to do a soft reboot of the Indiana Jones movies, which I'm not cool with. I'm also keeping in mind that this is all rumor at this point so this is me just theorizing.
My take is that the Reybold character's family had been taken by the Soviets and were in a Soviet internment camp. After all, the Soviets weren't exactly known for treating any Germans they captured particularly nicely, whether they were committed Nazis or not. They could be holding them as a means of trying to convince Reybold to switch sides, as in, come work for us and we'll free your family. It could also simply be that he (Reybold) wasn't a very good National Socialist and the Nazis were holding his family as a means of getting him to do his best work for them. Plenty of ethnic Germans with 0% Jewish blood were placed in concentration camps for political reasons
 

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ZeroSum

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Indiana Jones and the quest for the McMuffin. Indy races against the Nazis to McDonald's to posess the mighty McMuffin before they stop serving breakfast.
More like a bran muffin at his age! Indiana Jones and the Quest For Fibre.

Indiana Jones and the Retirement Community. Indiana Jones and the Search for Orthopedic Shoes.

They write themselves.
 

ZeroSum

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I wouldn't know! :lol: Maybe it's his Aldens he's looking for? Someone tell him he's digging in the wrong place.
 

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Psab keel

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More like a bran muffin at his age! Indiana Jones and the Quest For Fibre.

Indiana Jones and the Retirement Community. Indiana Jones and the Search for Orthopedic Shoes.

They write themselves.

Mine was more a pun on the term McGuffin.
 

blewis17

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The Ten Commandments
The Hanging Gardens of Babylon
Tower of Babel
Atlantis
some made up reason for The Tunguska Event

I agree that they’ve mostly hit the cream of the crop, but these were some that popped into my head
Biblically, The Ten Commandments along with Aron’s staff and a bowl of manna were stored in the Ark of the Covenant. In Raiders, when God “burned” the crate carrying the Ark while it was stored in the cargo hold, the contents were turned to dust. That’s why the Nazis found a pile of dust in the Ark when they took the lid off.
 

CadetTK2386

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In Raiders, when God “burned” the crate carrying the Ark while it was stored in the cargo hold, the contents were turned to dust. That’s why the Nazis found a pile of dust in the Ark when they took the lid off.
That's an interesting take on it. I had always assumed that the contents of the Ark had turned to dust due to the length of time they had been stored in there, and the Nazi symbology was burned off due to the sacrilegious nature of a Holy artifact being stored with those symbols on it. Kind of like the classic trope of evil being burned by Holy Water or other Religious items.

Bu that was just how I had always thought of it. In retrospect I suppose it does make no sense for the stone tablets to have turned to dust, they were stone after all, so this explanation does also make sense. That's one of the fun things about a good movie though, there can be enough ambiguity to allow viewers to draw their own conclusions, without it derailing the plot and over all themes.
 

VonMagnum

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That's an interesting take on it. I had always assumed that the contents of the Ark had turned to dust due to the length of time they had been stored in there, and the Nazi symbology was burned off due to the sacrilegious nature of a Holy artifact being stored with those symbols on it. Kind of like the classic trope of evil being burned by Holy Water or other Religious items.

Bu that was just how I had always thought of it. In retrospect I suppose it does make no sense for the stone tablets to have turned to dust, they were stone after all, so this explanation does also make sense. That's one of the fun things about a good movie though, there can be enough ambiguity to allow viewers to draw their own conclusions, without it derailing the plot and over all themes.

I figured it had a security system in it. They didn't push the right buttons on Belloq's chestplate so the bottom rotates over with the sand layer containing the angels and flame to zap the opener. If they had used the right buttons, the contents would be there. The original cut of the movie even included that "beep beep" alarm sound when the lid landed to reset the ark alarm with the angels eyes flashing in unison. ;)

You see, I used the correct combination on my Ark and there are the contents intact (my Ark is mounted on a giant cliff/cavern and as you can see, the tablets were actually pyrite coated by God for that polished look. Manna is delicious, BTW, kind of like Tapioca + Rice Pudding all in one. ;)) :

Ark Contents S.jpg
 

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Usagi Pilgrim

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Not to hijack, but I was amazed, when I got older, with the accuracy of Belloq's High Priest garments. From that design, to the Ark itself, there was really only one glaring inaccuracy, but that wasn't design related.
 

Psab keel

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The fact that Indy says the tablets came down with Moses from the top of Mount Horeb and not Sinai, though I just looked it up and some scholars believe they are the same mountain?
 

Usagi Pilgrim

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The fact that Indy says the tablets came down with Moses from the top of Mount Horeb and not Sinai, though I just looked it up and some scholars believe they are the same mountain?
Yeah.... Several biblical locations have different names in different places, some because of the differences between the Hebrew of the OT, & the Greek/Aramaic of the NT.
 

Usagi Pilgrim

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Hebrew and Aramaic were Old Testament... the New Testament was written entirely in Greek.
You're right. Daniel & Ezra were in Aramaic. Back in the days of school, we looked at the difference between the spoken Koine Greek & the influence of Aramaic on the written. A couple of my professors were calling it Aramaic & it stuck.

I'm old & confused.
 

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