Did you ever watch Ocean's Thirteen?????
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This is one issue deep fakes don't fix. The whole head and neck needs to be replaced. Aging 50 years doesn't just add some wrinkles to one's face.
Indiana Jones 5 officially announced
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This is one issue deep fakes don't fix. The whole head and neck needs to be replaced. Aging 50 years doesn't just add some wrinkles to one's face.
somerset fox
Sr Member
Noticed this on the de-aged Nick Fury in Capt Marvel. The face was de-aged, but it was evident it was an old man running along from the body shape, physical movements etc.Did you ever watch Ocean's Thirteen?????
If you know, you know
This is one issue deep fakes don't fix. The whole head and neck needs to be replaced. Aging 50 years doesn't just add some wrinkles to one's face.
He looked and moved great in that dumpster fire KOTC. Older, but still Indy. By TFA he was moving more like his age. Now, as great as he looks for his age it just does not work.
I think they are going to do a Logan and the young Indy is not Harrison Ford at all. At least for action scenes.
I also noticed the scene of young Indy inside the train where he is just standing there, his leather jacket looks CGI as well.
joberg
Legendary Member
Yep, that's the story I've mentioned to my wife; the Dial is going to transport Indy back in the '40s...and Marion so they can live happily ever after; him an Archeology prof. and her tending the Obi-Wan Bar downtown
Did you ever watch Ocean's Thirteen?????
If you know, you know
This is one issue deep fakes don't fix. The whole head and neck needs to be replaced. Aging 50 years doesn't just add some wrinkles to one's face.
It’s worth noting that even de-aged Indy set in the mid-late war era should look older than Temple of Doom Indy by about a decade. A man can change quite a bit from his mid-30s to his mid-40s.
joberg
Legendary Member
...and as Han Solo, dismissed the power of the Force
Just had to roll with it, Temple of Doom which predated Raiders... "I understand it's power now." He personally witnessed the supernatural, and had witnesses to back him up if he doubted himself. He even seemingly invoked the supernatural himself.... causing the stones to become red hot and burn through the bag. A man after that would not be dismissive of the freekin' Ark's power at that point after seeing a few rocks cause trouble. LOL Anyways, I think Raiders was the best by leap and bounds. Really a class by itself. Sometimes I imagine that's all there was.
It's easy to overthink Indy MacGuffins. I went down the "what other mythical objects would be suitable" rabbit hole a while ago and was shocked by the dearth of objects that felt on par with the Ark, or the Grail, or even the Sankara Stones. But then it occurred to me: was I searching for objects on par with the semi-historical legends... or the embellished film versions that I grew up with?
Like those Army Intelligence agents, I didn't go to Sunday school, and I'm not well-versed in the Bible or most any religious tradition, so when I think of the Ark, I'm remembering Raiders. When I think of the Grail, I'm remembering Last Crusade (plus a little bit Monty Python). And like many Americans, I have zero familiarity with Hinduism, so I accepted the mostly made-up story of the Sankara stones too.
All of these worked for me not because of prior recognition, but because the films successfully sold me on their mythology through the reverence and awe imbued by the dialog and the believable delivery by Ford, Connery, Denholm Elliott, D. R. Nanayakkara as the Indian village leader, etc. The problem with Crystal Skull wasn't necessarily their choice of MacGuffin; it was their failure to sell it.
Get a good enough writer to concoct the legend, put those words in the mouth of the right actor, and convince me that the characters all buy it... and I'll buy it as well!
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He looked and moved great in that dumpster fire KOTC. Older, but still Indy. By TFA he was moving more like his age. Now, as great as he looks for his age it just does not work.
I think they are going to do a Logan and the young Indy is not Harrison Ford at all. At least for action scenes.
I also noticed the scene of young Indy inside the train where he is just standing there, his leather jacket looks CGI as well.
Okay following up on this.
Indy was 58 in KOTCS. As a 51 year old, let me just say if anyone says he is too old to do what he did. BIT ME!!!!!!! Harrison Ford was 67 or so filming KOTCS. Looked great and acted it just fine. His age was not a factor.
The movie just sucked and among other things made Indy and Marion pretty lousy. Him bailing, and her not telling him he is a father. Lucasfilm, Disney, and Hollywood in general really don't like fathers. Too bad as kids really do
Okay now he is 80. 78 or so when they filmed this. Wow, he looks and moves better at 80 than I do now. Friggin Jelly Bellies.
Anyway Indy is supposed to only be 70. Okay. Not a problem. An older Indy going on one last adventure but he needs to do stuff a really in shape 70 year old could do. Cool. No problem.
The problem is these movies suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's all been crap and this looks no better. If they had their talent I would want more Indiana Jones movies as long as he is alive. I don't care. Indy and the search for a better walker.
He can be the mentor to his son, etc.
It sucks. That is the problem.
Does anyone who knows Phoebe Crapper Bridge think for one second she is in this to treat Indy with respect?
It's not the age, date, clothes or anything else.
It's crap.
I know many of us consider LC the end but it's like trying to ignore the prequels and sequels. Even if you don't see them you know what happens and it's always in your head.
Time travel. Lets do that and wipe some crap movies out.
Okay I am actually out of breathe. Sorry for the rant.
Attacking fans is never a good idea. His is acting just like Rhian *******.
Plus I hope he is not lying:
“No one is ‘taking over’ or replacing Indy or donning his hat nor is he being ‘erased’ thru some contrivance,” the filmmaker said
How about, "Don't worry. Some rumors out there are not true and I think you are gonna be happy."
He started angry tweeting as soon as filming began. I was thinking he should be concentrating on , I don't know, making the movie. Now after seeing the trailer we know the result. Less tweeting, more writing, directing, caring.
HeartBlade
Sr Member
Thats definately another interpretation. The issue with that is that Indy couldnt blow up the arc. The bad guy (forgot his name) goaded him, saying go ahead knowing that Indy couldnt pull the trigger. I guess my overall point is the stories also reflect challenges in Indy's own personal life and it is through these journeys had Indy also finds some insight into addressing a personal problem. In a sense, Crystal Skull also attempts to do this with Indy and his son. I just think it really wasnt pulled off well and Mutt doesnt really "earn" his hat from the story.
Little side note but I do find it surprising how little praise there is for Marion for being a strong female protagonist. Marion isnt really a damsel in distress, opening the movie by drinking another big dude under the table and socking Indy.
I can see that. Excalibur is just from the top of my head and the other artifacts (ark, grail) are far more significant so making Excalibur the focus would be a downgrade. Great for a Disney+ mini series or special though.
I honestly just feel that Indy's story has ended. If they wanted to make a stealth sequel with a female protagonist, what might have been cool was making a completely new character with a different name but she is also an archeologist going on her own adventures. Maybe at the end of the first or even second movie, she says she needs to consult an expert and Indy makes a surprise camo. Show that the new character is successful on her own and then add to it by adding in Indy, now as a mentor role, after the character has been established rather than this suspected attempt of lets replace Indy with young female Indy.
If this goes the Star Wars ST route, Im also afraid female Indy is going to be smarter, stronger, and just better than Indy in every aspect (Indy is going to struggle with riddles that she solves easily, gets in jams that she saves him from but never the other way around, etc.). Its just bad writing and makes for a hateable character.
...but a modern audience would not accept an "in-between" Indy.
So, in chronological order:
TOD... in 1935
ROTLA... in 1936
TLC... in 1938
....big time jump, 19 years for Indy (and Ford) to 1957...
KOTCS
TOD and ROTLA were only a few years apart in theatrical release, so believing that Indy was actually a bit younger in TOD was easier to do.
They call him “Bellosh”…
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CopperRevan
Master Member
Alley...I've been waiting for you to insert that one post here that you put in the Indiana Jones series thread...you know the one with that Star Wars ROS theme? Lol.
This thread has been started for it, so I imagine photos will get posted there:
Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
** Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny ** The top is a Trailer for the new movie. And I went ahead and worked up a preliminary STL file for the Dial. To be continued when new pictures and angles become available. (I could have done more, but this is a good start)
www.therpf.com
CopperRevan
Master Member
Yes....that one...lol
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