Indiana Jones 5 officially announced

[Psab keel]

That's the sad irony in all of this. By being "risk averse" they are actually taking a bigger risk of potentially destroying the franchise by trying to reverse engineer the thing. Which often speaks to those in charge not really understanding what works about them in the first place.

This is why I'm always touting how streaming original series has the edge on Hollywood because they are willing to take the risk and try something fresh.

 

[VonMagnum]

My God! That gives me the perfect idea!


Digital Humphrey Bogart Reincarnated as Rick Blaine + Digital Young Harrison Ford as Professor Henry Jones Jr. in:

Casablanca II: Indiana Jones and the Mystery of the Bedeviled Blonde Beyotches of the Vril

I like it! Do it Paramount! Just do it!!!

Ah, Tesla can be in it too! (Too bad David Bowie died)

Oh yeah, someone had the right idea already!!!

 

[VonMagnum]

Just think. Bogart & Harrison Ford both played in different movies of Sabrina! (Herself a teenage witch, of course).....

 

[The Goon]

You may have a point there. A generous coat of paint and the application of the miracle hair tonic of Just For Men, and Indy will look like he’s in his early 40’s again, let alone in his 60’s.

Why, just look at Mick Jagger. The man doesn’t look a day over 30!

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Off topic, but speaking of Mick Jagger has anyone else noticed how much he looks like a seriously dehydrated Arnold Schwarzenegger?

 

[VonMagnum]

As ludicrous as the idea of Casablanca's Rick Blaine teaming up with Doctor Jones may sound (particularly using computer tech to bring Bogart back to life and make Harrison young looking again), I bet it would still be considerably more fun than whatever Indy 5 turns out to be.... You'd instantly get all the Ancient Aliens fans to buy a ticket on day one as well.

Hell, I'd pay just to see Bogart in a new movie, so long as it was well done. (There was a great look-alike back in the 1980s/90s that would have made it even easier to do). Oh yeah, I can see it now.... If nothing else, they both sure had good taste in hats!


Rick Blaine & Indiana Jones take on the Nazis and the women of the Vril Society

 

[PoopaPapaPalps]

Guess it's a good thing that he's not directing this film then. James Mangold is.

D'oh! Got my directors confused. Somebody brought up/I misread something with Bourne in it, I suppose.

Still, swap in Mangold and the point I was trying to get across is still the same.

 

[cboath]

I don't want or need to see Indy in space. Are they going to have him tape his fedora to his space helmet? C'mon. It was tough enough seeing him interact with Aliens in Indy 4. I don't want or need to see him punching Soviets while floating in orbit. Space Cowboys was a fun movie but I don't want to see the Indiana Jones version.

I also don't want to see Indy fighting some sort of ideological war either. Plus the closer the character gets to the present time, the entire story loses it's romanticism. Besides, the whole concept was a throw back to the adventure serials which idealized the past. Star Wars and Indiana Jones were both romantic adventures and when you place scenarios from modern day (or similar circumstances) into them, the story feels off balance because it's trying to reconcile the idealism of the past with the cynicism of the present. In the hands of the wrong writer it could feel disjointed.

I can't really see Indy being recast either. The comparison between Indy and Bond is often made but unlike Bond, Indy was created for the cinema so to recast Harrison feels more out of place than doing different interpretations of a character that existed in literature first (which would naturally lend itself to different iterations.) Bond evolved and can continue to evolve because the concept of a spy has the potential to change, whereas Indiana Jones as a concept is rooted in a certain time, which can only evolve so much before it gets stale. The only reason the timeline of the movie has shifted so far into the "future" ie. the 1960's is to account for Harrison's age, which is just more evidence that the character is tied to Harrison Ford alone.

So the only logical answer is that they will reboot the series in some way. Then again if they set it in the past and recast Harrison to tell earlier adventures with the character then they have to navigate the waters of trying to not upset a modern audience with outdated or offensive sentiments from the past. The more I think about it, the more potential I think this idea of cashing in on Indy could fail miserably.

I have to agree pretty much. IF you did the recast around 1990 and stayed in the 20's/30's, i think they could have done it. When you wait until the 2020's and do a flick with a 70-80 year old indy, that makes it MUCH harder. Sure, there's the Fountain of Youth. You could also spin something about drinking from the Grail has an effect/side effect (they said the price of immortality as they knew it was you couldn't cross the seal, not that something else didn't happen if you crossed it), but that's a much harder sell as well.

Even if you do Fountain of Youth or a Grail side effect, you're still left with Indy in the 60's at the earliest. Maybe you can do it, I don't know. the 20's/30's was fortune and glory. The closer you get to present day it's splits more to fortune or glory. Black Market is huge these days. You could evolve it a bit towards 'it belongs in a museum' and he's fighting/competing against black marketers, but it's not the same. However, perhaps if they recast it's better that it's not the same?

 

[cboath]

Well, the director has been “teasing” the 1960’s…

‘Indiana Jones 5’: Director James Mangold Teasing A 1960’s Setting?

If they were using Ford’s “true” age, 40 years have lapsed since Raiders so the film SHOULD take place in 1976 and Indy should be around age 79/80.

But, I guess they are going to have us believe that an almost 80 year old actor is portraying a 60 something year old man (given this is supposed to be only 25-30 years after Raiders??)

Drinking from the Holy Grail must have robbed him of a few years of life, I guess.

For context…this is Harrison Ford around the age of 60, at a 2002 film festival:

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And here he is today…

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The guy is in good shape for his age, but they will really be stretching it to say that he is supposed to be a character in his early-to-mid 60’s.

I don't know about that. I realize there aren't a ton of sports fans around here, but look for Video of John Elway in his 40's. He wouldn't pass for 40's. He'd have an easier time passing for 60's.

Sure, he was beat up playing football, but Indy would be beat to hell from all the adventures he had and having to deal with the medicine of the 20's and 30's as well.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

I don't know about that. I realize there aren't a ton of sports fans around here, but look for Video of John Elway in his 40's. He wouldn't pass for 40's. He'd have an easier time passing for 60's.

Sure, he was beat up playing football, but Indy would be beat to hell from all the adventures he had and having to deal with the medicine of the 20's and 30's as well.

Someone once said “It’s not the years…it’s the mileage…”

Now, those of us from Colorado know that John Elway is no mortal man, but is a horse-toothed demi-god, sent down from Mount Olympus to bless us with his talents. His weathered countenance belies his supernatural powers.

 

[JoeG]

There are photos and videos of filming prep being done at a few castles in the UK that is supposedly tied to the new Indy film. Set dressing featuring Nazi iconography has been shown. Possible hint to the antagonists perhaps.

 

[cboath]

What threat were Nazi's in the 60's?

 

[Psab keel]

I think people are speculating it's a flashback sequence.

 

[CT1138]

I think people are speculating it's a flashback sequence.

Yeah, the paint on the locomotive is fresh, and I saw another picture showing a Wehrmacht uniform. I'm definitely thinking flashback.

 

[Usagi Pilgrim]

Let's see...

He's incredibly intelligent, yet usually lucks into solutions, his arch-enemies are genocidal zealots intent on extermination, he does what he does just for the sake of fun & adventure, & finally, he chose his own name...

Hmmm...

Just have him get morally wounded & let him REGENERATE!

Problem solved.

 

[harrisonp]

I want it to revolve around the final chapter on the “Lost World” era of our human development closing. The world and its wonders are explored, we’ve been to the moon, we’ve won the greatest war of our time (twice) and then Indy gets the chance to look under the covers of one final mystery, one that he has dreamed of his whole life.

In my head I picture Atlantis, and Mads as a younger rival/contemporary who brings his findings to Indy, which leads them on their journey.

The key element and heart of the story as I imagine it is that in the penultimate moment, where the secret is laid out right and front of him ready for the taking, Indy turns his back on it and lets there be a little mystery left in the world. Being content to return to his life with Marion and watch the world follow its own trajectory while he lives out the last years of his life.

 

[Psab keel]

That sounds amazing! Too bad it likely won't be that profound.

 

[Lost in Trek]

Could be time travel...

I'm only kinda joking...

 

[edge10]

Off topic, but speaking of Mick Jagger has anyone else noticed how much he looks like a seriously dehydrated Arnold Schwarzenegger?

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Mick is like 10 years older than dirt, at this point!

 

[VonMagnum]

Mick Jagger.... Freejack. Hmmmm.

Imagining Emilio Estevez as Indy's protagonist with Mick Jagger as his lieutenant.... Lol. It'd still be better than whatever they have in mind with Kathleen Kennedy...

Remember in the good old days when they'd actually fire no talent useless people like her? Get me a Delorean.

 

[harrisonp]

Hey guys wanna give the Kennedy stuff a rest? It’s pretty tired. This movie isn’t even in the can yet and we’ve got to shout her down every chance we get.