“He should be in a museum!!!”
Indiana Jones 5 officially announced
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Zombie_61
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Nitz146
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I'm a sucker for Indiana Jones so I'll be in the theater for the next one. But yea, I would totally watch a Tales of the gold monkey reboot. I would also totally watch a Voyagers reboot.
VonMagnum
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Yes, if they're going to reboot series, how about rebooting one that never got the chance it deserved in the first place. Tales of the Gold Monkey should have gotten at least a second season (it predated a lot of things from Indiana Jones flicks like Jake and Corky in a side-car motorcycle, crossing the rope bridge in the King Solomon episode, etc. and from what I read the idea for it in general was pitched before Raiders even). They'd need the right cast, but I'd actually like to see that one. I'm not convinced they wouldn't screw it up, though (PC police or whatever). It was supposed to be in the late 1930s. I'd love to see a brass monkey statue recreation from this one as well.... I don't generally collect TV show memorabilia (more for my home theater), but that was a cool statue. I've actually been re-watching the series lately and hence why I ended up doing a search for it now.
Voyagers probably would have continued if Mr. Hexum hadn't blown his brains out with a blank to the head.... The Omni is a great prop to have too. There's no reason they couldn't reboot Voyagers either. I wasn't totally sold on the cast there anyway, but the idea was interesting (they'd utlimately have to have a bad guy screwing time up or something to explain why they're having to correct time in the first place, IMO. That was the weird thing with Time Cop. In the movie, there was only supposed to be one time machine, so it had to have occurred to them someone stole the prototype, else who are they policing? Oh well, it's best not to ask too many questions with time travel movies and shows or they fall apart at some point.
Voyagers probably would have continued if Mr. Hexum hadn't blown his brains out with a blank to the head.... The Omni is a great prop to have too. There's no reason they couldn't reboot Voyagers either. I wasn't totally sold on the cast there anyway, but the idea was interesting (they'd utlimately have to have a bad guy screwing time up or something to explain why they're having to correct time in the first place, IMO. That was the weird thing with Time Cop. In the movie, there was only supposed to be one time machine, so it had to have occurred to them someone stole the prototype, else who are they policing? Oh well, it's best not to ask too many questions with time travel movies and shows or they fall apart at some point.
So, in an interview Harrison Ford did with CBS thats set to air this weekend, he says he's about to start the next Indiana Jones movie.
Harrison Ford on returning to play Indiana Jones
In this preview of a conversation with correspondent Lee Cowan to be broadcast on "CBS Sunday Morning" on February 16, Harrison Ford, the actor who has played iconic characters in the "Star Wars" and Indiana Jones franchises, talks about returning to familiar roles.
www.cbsnews.com
For me the odd numbered Indy films are best (kinda a flip from the Trek even films being stronger).
I hoe this continues with the next film- just try to capture the fun and not resort to churning out a movie filled in by the numbers...
I hoe this continues with the next film- just try to capture the fun and not resort to churning out a movie filled in by the numbers...
HMSwolfe
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Definitely, 1 and 3 are far better than 2 and 4…but 1 and 3 were made in the same decade…it’s hard to make an adventure film with lots of action with a 70+ year old man as the protagonist—like, Charles Xavier was over 90 in Logan, but he wasn’t the protagonist. Last Crusade would have been just as bad as Crystal Skull had it been made in 2008.
Solos blaster
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Yup.
Hopped off this train(wreck), after 2008. No way they can make it work, let alone good. I know Ford loves Indy compared to Han so he will want to see it done right, but Disney sucks and the DSW is proof enough(fools and their money aside....), they can’t do it right.
Hopped off this train(wreck), after 2008. No way they can make it work, let alone good. I know Ford loves Indy compared to Han so he will want to see it done right, but Disney sucks and the DSW is proof enough(fools and their money aside....), they can’t do it right.
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HMSwolfe
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Oh, I really like James Mangold. I don’t think an Indy 5 movie will turn out well due to Harrison’s age (it just goes against the allure of the first three. Everyone wants to be Indiana Jones punching Nazis. No one wants to be Indiana Jones struggling to stand up and losing their hair and dealing with other issues of aging), but Mangold has proven to me to be a great director, what with 3:10 to Yuma, Logan, and now Ford v. Ferrari.
I think Spielberg getting out of this is a good thing. I think the last one was proof he had lost touch with the character irreparably. I think that "something from Indy's past" is good too if it means casting a young actor to portray that past and allow a passing of the torch I've dreamed of for so long so we can get back to Indy in the 1930s as the serious bad ass he was in Raiders.
Of course they have to cast that person well, and given how badly they cast characters sometimes odds are not great.
They ONLY way geriatric Indy can work for me is passing the torch at this point. No more than half the movie
should be geriatric Indy, and doing things age appropriate. The first half preferably.
A lot of ifs. But who knows, maybe I get lucky.
Of course they have to cast that person well, and given how badly they cast characters sometimes odds are not great.
They ONLY way geriatric Indy can work for me is passing the torch at this point. No more than half the movie
should be geriatric Indy, and doing things age appropriate. The first half preferably.
A lot of ifs. But who knows, maybe I get lucky.
VonMagnum
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I hate pass the torch movies (see Star Wars recent attempts; what 'pass' ? It's the end of the line for those characters in all likelihood, but that wasn't Disney's original plan. They wanted the next trilogy to be about the new characters. That's not going to happen now (Daisy has no interest for one thing and the ratings are not great and getting worse. Without any originals, most wouldn't care too much, IMO given the "PC" atmosphere).
I want Harrison Ford, not Shia Lapoof or whatever his name is.... It's sad he's too old. The should have made these movies 30 years ago! WTF was stopping them? Harrison Ford starred in a number of underwhelming movies over the years and he always like the Indy character. Like Star Wars, you have to blame George Lucas and in this case Steven Spielberg...well I have to give George credit, he at least tried to do Star Wars again 20 years ago. I still like Revenge of the Sith, at least and some parts of the other two.
I want Harrison Ford, not Shia Lapoof or whatever his name is.... It's sad he's too old. The should have made these movies 30 years ago! WTF was stopping them? Harrison Ford starred in a number of underwhelming movies over the years and he always like the Indy character. Like Star Wars, you have to blame George Lucas and in this case Steven Spielberg...well I have to give George credit, he at least tried to do Star Wars again 20 years ago. I still like Revenge of the Sith, at least and some parts of the other two.
I've really liked James Mangold's movies. Ford vs Ferrari was fantastic. Here's the thing though. So much of what made the Indiana Jones trilogy so great is because of Spielberg. He's as significant to those movies as Harrison Ford and John Williams are. Without him, it would be missing a crucial ingredient. I don't believe he lost touch with the character in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I think it's that he just no longer had interest in the character at that point. When you watch the behind the scenes, you get the feeling Spielberg just didn't care that much and made the movie as a favor to Lucas.
I get it, guys. I would've loved more Indy movies too. He's one of my absolute favorite characters. But at some point you just have to let things be. Otherwise you get Disney Star Wars.
Yeah I hate them too. I mean if the reason I'm watching them is to see the original heroes, then give me the original heroes. If the original heroes are too old to live up to their former selves and need "counterparts" to lean on, then what the hell is the point of the movie to begin with? Nostalgia trip? I want to see Indy. I don't want to see his son or nephew or student or whoever he passes the torch to. That's not an Indy movie. And I don't need another actor replacing him. Harrison IS Indy. But can Harrison Ford pull it off in his 70's?! I wish I could say yes but I don't see how it could work as well as it did before and if it can't work as well as it did before then why bother?
I used to wonder the same when I was younger. Why didn't they keep making them? Unlike Star Wars that "wrapped up" its story in ROTJ, Indy could've kept going. More adventures, more relics to find. Harrison was still interested. It was still a popular franchise. My guess is that Spielberg realized, and rightly so in my humble opinion, that the series was about to get repetitive and rather than keep making sequels with the same basic formula again and again, it was time to end it on a high note and ride off into the sunset literally and figuratively.
I get it, guys. I would've loved more Indy movies too. He's one of my absolute favorite characters. But at some point you just have to let things be. Otherwise you get Disney Star Wars.
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VonMagnum
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Oh, I dunno. The Mandalorian has been fun so far so it's not impossible to me that another movie "could" work or that someone could possibly play Indy in the future (assuming it's not a woman or some other huge departure like they seemed damned determined to do with Bond and have already ruined Doctor Who all for some tiny percentage of viewers instead of the mass audiences that want the original formulas so-to-speak without trying to raise controversy here). I actually like the new Magnum PI series, for example and I usually hate reboots. But the guy playing Magnum is likable and even a female Higgins works for me there (probably because I think she's hot, MI6 skills or not). So I can't say "never" even if I think it highly unlikely.
One problem I think with Indy is that they kept getting this notion that they have to "one up" each movie (the same reason why we got a solar system in one shot "death star" with the new Star Wars Episode VII) and yet The Empire Strikes Back is generally rated the best movie of the bunch and it had no planet destroying element in it! Characters and interactions are more important than artifacts. Temple of Doom is rated poorly by many. Why? I say it has nothing to do with the plot (which was fine, IMO) and everything to do with lower likability of the supporting characters compared to Raiders or The Last Crusade. Do you want Short Round or Henry Jones? Willie Scott or Elsa? Even so, I liked Temple of Doom just fine. I think I've seen the Crystal Skull movie twice in my lifetime and it had decades to get a good script.
I'm not even holding my breath for this "next" Ghostbusters movie that exists in the original Universe. That means NOTHING, IMO. Ghostbusters 2 didn't do that much for me. It was OK, but lacked something (the fact I couldn't stand the bad guy and mood slime probably had something to do with it. I did like the original character interaction and almost wish there had been more between Rick Moranis and Annie Potts and less with Dana's baby.... Who thought THAT was a good idea? Believe it or not, I'd almost rather watch the new Ghostbusters with women than Ghostbusters 2 (Ok, Kate McKinnon and Kristen Wiig both turn me on so that probably improved its watchability for me plus the 3D was pretty good on it).
I haven't even seen Star Wars Episode IX yet. I'm waiting for home video (I ordered the 3D BD from the UK). I just didn't have enough interest to put up with public movie theaters anymore for what can only be a half baked sequel (Yeah I read plot spoilers and that just lead me to avoid the theater that much more.... The Emperor alive? My god, just UNDO ROTJ entirely..... Hell, why'd the Empire fall apart if he's alive? Darth Vader was the only thing holding it together? Bologna. I read the script bits from Duel of The Fates and that sounded WAY better.... Why is it everyone can see that except JJ? M god. And I used to think he was a good director....
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