Indiana Jones 5 officially announced
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I want de-aged Steve Gutenberg to be the villian in 'Top Gun: Rooster.'
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HeartBlade
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Yeah. Looking at a quick wiki, they produced adaptations on 8 different rides so far. I think we can say out of those 8, only Pirates was a success and maybe Jungle Cruise given they are working on a sequel although it barely made above budget (220.9M box office for 200M budget).
List of film adaptations of Disney attractions - Wikipedia
Not a representative but will respond with my thoughts.“The latest Mission: Impossible installment cost north of $300M to make.
… As you know, it takes roughly double the budget for a movie to break even, on average. For Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part I this effectively means that unless the worldwide box office revenue reached at least $600M, it lost money instead of earning, and currently, this is exactly what’s happening.
…While the movie is yet to reach $400 Million mark globally, its vanishing from over 1000 screens in its home ground will only put more pressure on Tom Cruise’s much anticipated project.”
Where are the usual Disney haters who swore this movie would squash Indians Jones? LMAO. Let’s hear how you will somehow blame this film’s lackluster performance on the Mouse House.
Indy 5 received lukewarm reviews and only made $358.7M in the box office with a production budget of $295M.
Although MI7 hasnt been doing much better at $451M, its received rave reviews from critics and audiences and has done well globally, beating out Oppenheimer in terms of global box office (Oppen at $425.3M)
Seems that the big fish that ate everyone else was Barbie which has earned $823.8M globally to be 2023"s second highest earner globally behind Super Mario (and its only been two weeks so give it time).
Given this, its pretty easy to see that Barbie was the movie that crushed the other 3. Oppen and MI7 likely would have done better if they where released on another date independent of Barbie but Indy 5 wouldnt.
Pretty clear than Indy 5 just didnt do it and personal opinion, its not because it was "woke".
It seemed clear that they wanted to make a movie starring PWB but feared it would fail. Should have taken the risk and just build the movie around her with Indy in a cameo in this new "Indy-verse". See if the concept of a female Indy can stand on its own (like Tomb Raider).
Lets be honest, the last crusade was released over 30 years ago when the target audience (young to teenage boys) wasnt even born yet. Hell, they likely didnt even see the movie before it (crystal skull in 2008). Indiana Jones is an "old person movie" for the tik tok generation that their parents watched. Ford is also too old to be an action hero but instead of being a wise old man that uses his wits and wisdom to take down his enemies like Jones Sr from Last Crusade, we get depressed Indy who just wants to end it all after his life is left in shambles (and why did we need this?).
Honestly, the ending where Indy says he wants to die in the past but PWB punches him and forcefully brings him back could be a meta-narrative of the series as a whole. The Indy trilogy was great but I think it can be left as is. Indy himself also wants it to end, knowing he cant really contribute anymore but Disney basically knocks him out and drags his unconscious corpse to the present to force him to work to make them money.
Well, they could go the Green Mile route and extend Indys lifespan indefinitely (but not immortal) as the result of drinking from the Grail.
Oh yeah, it was on page 143 you mentioned that we had covered everything, and on July 10th.....and here we are, not even a month later and 13 pages later still going on about that and Hollywood, which has now even branched onto its own thread. lol.
Someone make a copy of these threads and send to the head guys at Hollywood.....
At this point, I think even if you stuffed these guys all into the same fridge Indy was in and let them get nuked, it still wouldn't change their minds.
...do you ever wonder if studio execs or their underlings READ forums like this? Certainly, if trying to figure out the "What the heck went wrong?!" type scenario, SOME studio higher-upper must run across these pages. Even basic Google-fu will bring you here.
Solo4114
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I promise you, they do not.
And if they did, they would probably be deeply disdainful.
Cephus
Master Member
They don't care what went wrong. They are convinced their own crap doesn't smell. It's why you see them blaming everyone except themselves. It's why they don't do anything different. They can't be wrong, even though they are.
Lightning
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I could theoretically see an assistant or intern tasked with reporting on fan reaction from the internet. Sonic proves changes can happen if it's loud enough. The question is, are the executives interested in an "after action report" to learn for the next time, probably not.
Solo4114
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The internet generally, or just Twitter (ahem, "X"
), yeah. But fan forums like this? No way. Highly unlikely.
The internet generally, or just Twitter (ahem, "X"
But TheRPF could fix so many of their problems, for a fair price...
Not to mention, if studious were here browsing, I am betting a lot more C&D letters would be happening. Studios make good money through licensing, and the replicas here threaten that.
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Cephus
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Except they don't learn. They just keep making the same mistakes over and over and over again and instead of accepting blame for their failures, they point fingers outward and blame everyone else.
These people are really stupid.
ScourgiousJinx
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‘Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny’ Box Office Hangs on Against "Barbenheimer" Tsunami
It's still struggling to recoup that massive budget though.
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"barbenheimer"...and we're supposed to take these stories seriously?
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The Goon
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Unless you work for a television or movie production company, you have no idea. The youngest son of a close friend is an editor on a "reality" cable show that involves subject matter like "hunting". During a semi-recent discussion about the show, he said something to the effect that, "It's the audience's responsibility to watch every episode, then go on the Internet and speak very positively about it." When I told him that was completely untrue, he claimed that that's the mindset in the business and that his supervisors completely believe it, and that when the ratings on a particular episode aren't what they expected they blame THE FANS for giving negative Internet reviews rather than accept responsibility for not doing their phony baloney jobs properly. He even tried to argue the point, until I mentioned that mentality was "Film School 101" brainwashing, when he stopped to think about it for a moment, then changed the subject.
Cephus
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Oh, we both understand the mindset. We also both know that the mindset is stupid. I'm not saying that they don't believe the crap that they spout, I'm saying that it's still crap. This happens in a lot of places in the modern world, probably it's happened going back thousands of years. Just because people want to beleive a thing is true, that doesn't make that thing true. Wanting a thing to be true and having that thing actually be true, those are often entirely different things. One is reality, one is not.
Now you're not going to stop the fanatics from believing the stupid stuff, but there's an actual undeniable metric in Hollywood. These projects have to make money. If they don't, then the studio goes under if they make enough stupid mistakes. Saying that the audience has to go home and be entirely positive, that's not reality, no matter how much some people might wish that it was. It's why a lot of these projects get roasted. It's not trolls, it's that these projects are crap. There's a big difference between reason and rationalization and a lot of people these days, they're doing the latter when the only one that actually works in the former.
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