Indiana Jones 5 officially announced

Temple of Doom is still a mixed bag today, I'd say. It was always the most uneven of the original trilogy. Extremely dark and cruel at moments, and then whipsawing into slapstick and screwball comedy. It's a great pastiche of film styles from that same era, though. I'll say that.

And yeah, there are some DEEPLY problematic aspects to it which, again, are reflective of the time in which those types of stories were first being told...which were not great. I could get into it more, but you know what I'm talking about anyway. I'm fine with that stuff not flying today. I'm also ok to watch the film, albeit with a critical more modern eye at points, and recognize that time marches on.

Then people should learn to stop asking "And then what happened?!"

If you don't want to see your heroes ravaged by time, then stop doing legacy sequels. Because time ravages us all. It's inevitable. Death and taxes, man.

In seriousness, though, people need to learn to be satisfied with endings. There's a reason fairy tales end with "And they lived happily ever after." Because nobody wants to hear about how Prince Charming and Cinderella later had marital problems because their relationship was based entirely on surface level interaction from one night of dancing, and they had no real foundation upon which to build. And nobody wants to hear about how, after slaying the giant and getting lots of riches, Jack's farm was attacked by brigands and burned to the ground, leaving Jack a pauper. And so on and so forth.

As long as we continue to tell stories about these heroes of yore, they are going to need too have conflicts in them that carry some weight -- in other words, drama. You can't have drama without meaningful conflict, and you can't have meaningful conflict if the heroes can just say "Pshaw" and brush past it.

And you can't go home again.


I agree that the problems with films that people don't like are often not down to "Oh, the writers were crap." Or "The producer had an agenda." And my bet is that people here don't understand how the creative side of the business has been infiltrated by the "suits" who want more and more creative control, and who are probably the biggest problem to actually telling a good story.

For me, it's mostly just...I dunno...I'm good, man. I don't need more. I don't need to feel disappointed or frustrated that the film didn't give me what I wanted. And honestly, I guess I just don't want more. I know I can't get back to, like, 1989 or whatever. That time has passed. And I'm ok with that.

I'd rather see new stories anyway.

That's what I've been saying for years. Stories end. They should end and they need to end in order to have any meaning or purpose. I know this from hard earned experience as a writer, having completed a full length novel and self publishing it. No conflict, no story. Trust me, I get that more than most because crafting a good story isn't easy. As proud as I am of finishing it, I've also been rewriting it on and off for almost 20 years. I also know studio meddling is a factor in a writer's vision coming to life on the screen, but some ideas are bad from the outset, regardless of the studio's involvement. Not every story needs to span the scope of a fictional character's entire life from birth to death. The best stories are often a limited window into one season of their lives and the events that shaped them. Raiders would be a very, very boring movie if it told Indy's entire life story.

"Brevity is the soul of wit." and all that.

I've also long argued that we need new stories. Not 25 Indiana Jones movies and spin offs, not Willow the webseries, or Star Wars 47. We need more Stranger Things and more Succession's, or Bob's Burgers. We need fresh, interesting ideas with new characters and new stories of their own to tell. The areas of entertainment where I get vexed are the ones where I've been involved with them my whole life. If you're a comic book fan, you're going to have an opinion on the latest developments, even if you don't read all the latest titles because you've got an emotional investment in that world and it speaks to you on a personal level. If you're a football fan you're only going to watch the games that your favorite team plays, not necessarily every game in the entire league that season. That doesn't mean you can't have an opinion on the games you don't watch if you know the game well and you've been following the sport your whole life. If anything, you're more qualified than most general audiences because you simply know more. You've invested the time and you're entitled to speak your mind.

Some people have this tendency to assume that an opinion has less validity if you're not willing to give every new iteration of a franchise a chance, but when you've been around long enough you can see patterns emerge and can predict the outcome. It also stands to reason that when the reporting of leaks match up with each new bit of official information on the movie, you can connect the dots without spending your money to see it with your own eyes. In the last four years those leaks have been much more consistent in panning out to be true. 2019 was a perfect example of this, and still people denied the leaks being real, even when they were presented with time stamped and dated evidence proving them wrong. When you can choose your own reality, I guess anything is possible.

It's also reasonable to know what you like and what you don't like. There's no fault in liking or disliking something someone else feels differently about, but the way some fans act, it's as if you're an awful person for criticizing a movie studio for making a crap film. I will concede that there are a lot of people who go to the other extreme and unnecessarily rain on the parade out of spite, but those aren't the majority of fans who genuinely wished for better. I can confidently say that many here who are frustrated with the way these IP's have been handled aren't bitter, angry people. Most of the language used is hyperbolic, but meant to convey their irritation and not meant to be taken as an indicator of hatred towards anyone. Merely expressing unhappiness with what they're being delivered.

For those wanting to see this (or any movie) with their own eyes before they make a judgment about it, I completely respect that. I sincerely do. I hope it delivers for you.
 
Indiana Jones is in a very small group of franchises that I'm likely always going to give a chance regardless of how bad they may look. I'm going to see this movie with a group of friends and it's going to be a great time regardless of whether or not the film itself is decent. Going in with as open of a mind as I can.

In that vein I don't really need to hear much more about why DOD is likely going to suck. I saw the trailers, I know why. And it's been covered repeatedly. Nothing is purely awful just as nothing is perfect. What I'd like to hear more of is what looks good about it, what are people looking forward to?
 
Indiana Jones is in a very small group of franchises that I'm likely always going to give a chance regardless of how bad they may look. I'm going to see this movie with a group of friends and it's going to be a great time regardless of whether or not the film itself is decent. Going in with as open of a mind as I can.

In that vein I don't really need to hear much more about why DOD is likely going to suck. I saw the trailers, I know why. And it's been covered repeatedly. Nothing is purely awful just as nothing is perfect. What I'd like to hear more of is what looks good about it, what are people looking forward to?
Not to be disrespectful but could you clarify? You want to hear what people are looking forward to in this movie while you stated you know why it's going to suck...If i said i was looking forward to seeing a movie that i knew was going to suck that would sound irrational to me, no?
 
Not to be disrespectful but could you clarify? You want to hear what people are looking forward to in this movie while you stated it is likely going to suck...If i said i was looking forward to seeing a movie that was likely going to suck that would sound irrational to me, no?

No there are plenty of movies that I've seen that were bad that I've enjoyed for different reasons- the company I was with, the film was hilariously awful (so bad it's good), etc.

I think it looks bad but I know there are people here who think otherwise and I want to know why they feel the way they do. Not to argue with them but to find silver linings. You're welcome to think I'm as irrational as you'd like. :)
 
No there are plenty of movies that I've seen that were bad that Ive enjoyed for different reasons- the company I was with, the film was hilariously awful (so bad it's good), etc.

I think it looks bad but I know there are people here who think otherwise and I want to know why they feel the way they do. You're welcome to think I'm as irrational as you'd like. :)
I wasn't saying you are irrational, the premise sounded that way to me. I mean, i can get a group of buddies and go to a bad restaurant and have food and have a good time because i'm with my buddies but to come away from the experience touting the restaurant wouldn't make much sense. Having a good time is one thing...but you could do that anywhere. But if you're going somewhere to get great food, Burger King probably isn't the best option. Sure, you can still have a good time there. But if i'm going to a movie to actually enjoy a movie then the movie should be good in order for me to say so. If it's bad then i will say as much. If i suspect a movie will be bad then for me to pay money and support it knowing it's bad only serves a bad outcome...i get robbed and they get my money so they can produce more bad movies. To walk away and say, "well...it sucked but i had a good time...let's do it again sometime" sounds foolish to me and only goes to produce more mediocre at best, films. But hey, i'm not telling you how to spend your hard earned money...i'm just hopefully trying to save you a few bucks( a lot actually) and trying to prevent further bad movies, especially from a company than can care less about good quality. I can flush my money down a toilet and say i had a good time doing it but after a while, when i'm broke and i can't afford the toilet i'm flushing or the water bill, it won't feel the same...i promise.
 
In 'Crystal Skull' Indy mentions one of the events in the young chronicles, so you could argue it's canon.

That TV series was never intended to be oscar-worthy, or even sustainable. George did as a limited-run deal it so ILM could experiment with CGI shots. It was a way to lose less money than if ILM did all that research for nothing.
 
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I'm not sure why I'm on trial here for going to a movie that I'm not keen on with people who I am keen on and trying to find positive things about it.

Yes I can have fun anywhere with good people but I'm choosing to go see this film because thats what they want to do and suprisingly sometimes life isn't all about me, what I think or what I want. It's called getting along with others. Just like here trying to learn about other perspectives- granted in hindsight "I think this movie is going to be terrible but please us tell why you're into it" wasn't the best approach on my part. A better one would've been "I'd love to hear why others are into seeing this movie as maybe there are thoughts or perspectives that I could learn from."

I get not supporting bad films and agree with that but I also get supporting things people I care about are into. I make a genuinely solid effort for the most part to not support likely bad content but this is a case where something else is more important. If that makes me a punk, so be it.
 
I'm not sure why I'm on trial here for going to a movie that I'm not keen on with people who I am keen on and trying to find positive things about it.

Yes I can have fun anywhere with good people but I'm choosing to go see this film because thats what they want to do and suprisingly sometimes life isn't all about me, what I think or what I want. It's called getting along with others. Just like here trying to learn about other perspectives- granted in hindsight "I think this movie is going to be terrible but please us tell why you're into it" wasn't the best approach on my part. A better one would've been "I'd love to hear why others are into seeing this movie as maybe there are thoughts or perspectives that I could learn from."

I get not supporting bad films and agree with that but I also get supporting things people I care about are into. I make a genuinely solid effort for the most part to not support likely bad content but this is a case where something else is more important. If that makes me a punk, so be it.
You're not on trial...You're not a punk...I was trying to get to the root of your perspective which is how to learn. I have no problem getting along with you even though we may disagree. When we say we are open-minded and want to learn about others then saying we don't want to hear something, we only want to hear a certain aspect then we negate the very definition of open-minded. To me, this whole forum is open. I understand getting tired of hearing the same thing over and over, retread after retread , but how come that tiredness doesn't translate with seeing a retread of a movie or the same old agenda retold over and over on the big screen? Not picking on you personally but i think the heart and soul of a lot of the pushback against this film is to not, once again, redefine a character, ruin a franchise, push an agenda or narrative that, in large is already been shoved down the throats of society via news media, social media, late night, not so funny, comedians who are drunk on the milk of Jake Skywalkers sea cow. Believe me...i wish i could go to the movies without having to be this cynical but unfortunately, there is a legitimate reason for the cynacism and i simply cannot support it with my money any longer and won't. Is it possible i might miss out on a gem? Possible, but highly unlikely. I'll take the chance knowing i'm not aiding in their cause.

Take prop making for example...a company will never be able to produce a lightsaber hilt as good as an independent fan, with all of its money and machines at its disposal. Why? Lack of artistry and heart. There are amazing artists within this prop forum that produce amazing results. We need to spend more time supporting the ones making the gourmet ribeyes than the meat factories shelling out Spam to everyone. Just my opinion. I respect you as a person and you are valued even though we have a different perspective. Please don't think that i'm mean spirited at all because i'm not...i'm just tired of people getting robbed by this company.
 
An architect may design a home, but the carpenter is still accountable for their own craftsmanship. There is certainly accountability for writers when it comes to horrible dialogue etc.

If writers are merely sock puppets for executives, then I frankly would see no value in their role that justifies the current strike—which we know is not the case. They are not just stenographers for executives. Writers play a huge role in the creative process; good or bad.
Except that in case, the architect and the carpenter are the same people and they come up with a great design, but the client doesn't like it and wants to make changes to it. So in the end, the architect revises the plans/designs to match what the client desires because it's either that or lose their business. In this case, the writers can only do so much, if the studio says that they want all white males to be re-written to be female PoC, the characters to do obviously dumb and stupid things and write in all kinds of blatant messaging, there's nothing they can unless they want to pack their desks and look for another job. Then all that happens is some other young, hungry writer gets hired to take their place, one that's willing to write what the studio wants because they want that writing gig.
 
You're not on trial...You're not a punk... I have no problem getting along with you even though we may disagree. I respect you as a person and you are valued even though we have a different perspective. Please don't think that i'm mean spirited at all because i'm not...

I mean't that I am ok if someone (anyone) doesn't like me or approve of the decision to see DOD. Just we're clear I have no issue with you personally at all and am also good with disagreeing with people. :)

I was trying to get to the root of your perspective which is how to learn. I have no problem getting along with you even though we may disagree. When we say we are open-minded and want to learn about others then saying we don't want to hear something, we only want to hear a certain aspect then we negate the very definition of open-minded. To me, this whole forum is open. I understand getting tired of hearing the same thing over and over, retread after retread , but how come that tiredness doesn't translate with seeing a retread of a movie or the same old agenda retold over and over on the big screen? Not picking on you personally but i think the heart and soul of a lot of the pushback against this film is to not, once again, redefine a character, ruin a franchise, push an agenda or narrative that, in large is already been shoved down the throats of society via news media, social media, late night, not so funny, comedians who are drunk on the milk of Jake Skywalkers sea cow. Believe me...i wish i could go to the movies without having to be this cynical but unfortunately, there is a legitimate reason for the cynacism and i simply cannot support it with my money any longer and won't. Is it possible i might miss out on a gem? Possible, but highly unlikely. I'll take the chance knowing i'm not aiding in their cause.

Take prop making for example...a company will never be able to produce a lightsaber hilt as good as an independent fan, with all of its money and machines at its disposal. Why? Lack of artistry and heart. There are amazing artists within this prop forum that produce amazing results. We need to spend more time supporting the ones making the gourmet ribeyes than the meat factories shelling out Spam to everyone. Just my opinion. I respect you as a person and you are valued even though we have a different perspective. Please don't think that i'm mean spirited at all because i'm not...i'm just tired of people getting robbed by this company.

Then don't support it. No one is stopping you. As I said I don't typically support crappy content (what that is is entirely subjective btw) either but there are rare exceptions and I (the only person I have to answer to in regards to this) am good with that. We don't need to keep reminding everyone reading these forums how we feel in that regard and pushing them to do the same at each and every single opportunity. That often discourages people from reading or posting, sometimes even those who agree.

The following is a general statement not directed at anyone in particular...Free speech, open discussion & learning are very important (see many many of the posts I've made in the past to that effect) but so is having an environment where everyone, no matter what their POV can post without repeatedly shoving it down their throat that what they think, what they enjoy or what they're doing is wrong or isn't good enough at every opportunity. That is not "open discussion," is poor use of "freedom of speech" and hinders learning.

If we truly care about the message and the efficacy of the message (whatever it might be) it's delivery is EVERYTHING. Being right doesn't matter at all if no one is listening.
 
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Except that in case, the architect and the carpenter are the same people and they come up with a great design, but the client doesn't like it and wants to make changes to it. So in the end, the architect revises the plans/designs to match what the client desires because it's either that or lose their business. In this case, the writers can only do so much, if the studio says that they want all white males to be re-written to be female PoC, the characters to do obviously dumb and stupid things and write in all kinds of blatant messaging, there's nothing they can unless they want to pack their desks and look for another job. Then all that happens is some other young, hungry writer gets hired to take their place, one that's willing to write what the studio wants because they want that writing gig.
Except, if they want anyone to feel sorry for them and support them, there has to be something that they can point to. When the actual output of Hollywood is so demonstrably awful most of the time, why should we care? When they say "if you don't pay us more, we're going to stop writing!" my only response is:

GOOD!
 
Indiana Jones is in a very small group of franchises that I'm likely always going to give a chance regardless of how bad they may look. I'm going to see this movie with a group of friends and it's going to be a great time regardless of whether or not the film itself is decent. Going in with as open of a mind as I can.

In that vein I don't really need to hear much more about why DOD is likely going to suck. I saw the trailers, I know why. And it's been covered repeatedly. Nothing is purely awful just as nothing is perfect. What I'd like to hear more of is what looks good about it, what are people looking forward to?
Going with friends can make an experience much better. For Crystal Skull, I went with a group, one guy was a huge Indy fan. I think he seemed a bit disappointed afterwards, but was also trying to find the things he liked about it.
He worked at Universal and had a lot of connections with people, but didn't get to see it early.
I think his biggest shock, was knowing that aliens were involved, he wasn't expecting it to be so direct, even seeing them there at the end.
After the movie, we all went out to eat....his phone was blowing up from text and calls of everyone wanting to know what he thought. He just started telling people the movie wasn't over yet. lol

Its funny how a lot of the times, a sequel can never capture that magic of the first film. The Star Wars, Indy and Back to the Future movie sequels are the few that did, with most saying Empire surpassed it even.
It seemed like after a bunch of years go by, they can't seem to recreate that magic. I don't know if thinking better technology would make it work, or what, goes to show that a good story is needed first.

I haven't seen Crystal Skull in a long time now, but thinking back, there were plenty parts I did enjoy. Like the rocket sled scene, because that was really accurate for what really happened back in the day.
I know a lot of people didn't care the nuke scene, but I always like nuke scenes in movies, and the thought that, Indiana Jones just survived a nuclear blast at basically ground zero.... ridiculous, but in a cool way, I thought.

So anyways, guess thats my longwinded thought that we all want and hope to have a good movie, but at the very least, find good memorable parts within a not so great one. We'll see.
And at the very least, going with friends, to remember those moments watching together sharing thoughts over it.
All the guys I saw Crystal Skull with, in 15 years, I've lost contact with every single one. Thats life.
 
I know you didn't infer that. I mean't that I am ok if someone (anyone) doesn't like me or approve of the decision to see DOD. Just we're clear I have no issue with you personally at all and am also good with disagreeing with people. :)



Then don't support it. No one is stopping you. As I said I don't typically support crappy content (what that is is entirely subjective btw) either but there are rare exceptions and I (the only person I have to answer to in regards to this) am good with that. We don't need to keep reminding everyone reading these forums how we feel in that regard and pushing them to do the same at each and every single opportunity. That often discourages people from reading or posting, sometimes even those who agree.

The following is a general statement not directed at anyone in particular...Free speech, open discussion & learning are very important (see many many of the posts I've made in the past to that effect) but so is having an environment where everyone, no matter what their POV can post without repeatedly shoving it down their throat that what they think, what they enjoy or what they're doing is wrong or isn't good enough at every opportunity. That is not "open discussion," is poor use of "freedom of speech" and hinders learning.

If we truly care about the message and the efficacy of the message (whatever it might be) it's delivery is EVERYTHING. Being right doesn't matter at all if no one is listening.
Aren't you reminding everyone about how you feel?

Can you define for us what an open forum is for?

Is not liking someones opinion discouraging?

If someone is discouraged by it, is that bullying?

Is open-discussion one sided?

What is your solution on how a forum should be conducted and how many times a person should be allowed to share a viewpoint?

Honestly, I have no idea what's been infiltrating the minds of current culture but it seems to me so many who say they are "open-minded" want to control and dictate what everyone else does and limit what others say in order that their own viewpoints remain untouched. If i start a thread titled " Nothing Star Wars will ever be as good as the OT" then i'm welcoming those in opposition to share their viewpoint. I can whine and complain all i want about being discouraged by their responses but the mere fact of anyone posting a thread to comment on, entertains possibilities of the same people voicing the same opinions over and over, beating a dead horse and therefor, i should be ok with that since this is indeed, a thread. If you are so secure in what you believe and think then you should have no problem whatsoever of how many times someone else posts a challenge or disagreement to. One thing i will never do is tell someone or insinuate that a person be limited in any way as to what they want to share or , in your words, misuse free speech on this forum. There are already limits in place on this forum so it's not totally free. Whether or not i agree with those limits or not, by coming here i have full understanding what the rules are. The one thing i will say is we all have a choice to come on here or leave, to read posts or to ignore them.
 
I know you didn't infer that. I mean't that I am ok if someone (anyone) doesn't like me or approve of the decision to see DOD. Just we're clear I have no issue with you personally at all and am also good with disagreeing with people. :)



Then don't support it. No one is stopping you. As I said I don't typically support crappy content (what that is is entirely subjective btw) either but there are rare exceptions and I (the only person I have to answer to in regards to this) am good with that. We don't need to keep reminding everyone reading these forums how we feel in that regard and pushing them to do the same at each and every single opportunity. That often discourages people from reading or posting, sometimes even those who agree.

The following is a general statement not directed at anyone in particular...Free speech, open discussion & learning are very important (see many many of the posts I've made in the past to that effect) but so is having an environment where everyone, no matter what their POV can post without repeatedly shoving it down their throat that what they think, what they enjoy or what they're doing is wrong or isn't good enough at every opportunity. That is not "open discussion," is poor use of "freedom of speech" and hinders learning.

If we truly care about the message and the efficacy of the message (whatever it might be) it's delivery is EVERYTHING. Being right doesn't matter at all if no one is listening.

So you mean to tell me that this ISN'T my own private journal where I can spout my vitrilolic and toxic hatred of a thing without response? I'm shook... :lol: I just wanted to give everyone my daily reminder of what a bitter, selfish, hate-filled, racist, sexist, mysogonistic, homophobic pig I am. So consider this your daily dose. BTW everything SUCKS and if you disagree with me so do you! ;)

In all seriousness, the wave of negative responses comes from years of studios and actors/ writers insulting their customers and the media treating the fans as if they are the problem rather than considering the quality of the product Hollywood is making. I constantly see articles online tearing down these franchises, making the claim about how problematic they are and many of them blame the lackluster box office returns on the fans because they're toxic. Pile on a huge number of other fans who bear down on us for speaking our minds and making us feel unwelcome. It's just not the same anymore when talking about movies. I've had long bouts where I won't post a thing in these threads because I'm just repeating myself and I don't have the energy enough to bother. Recently I've gotten involved again, but it's evident that I have to take another long break from this section of the forum. Not because I feel I've done anything wrong, so much as I just feel better when I'm not discussing these topics. How sad is that?

Ultimately I agree with you that environments such as this should be welcome to all viewpoints and no one should feel they can't post a comment, negative or positive, about a movie or tv show. I just feel it's high time that we all acknowledge the real source of the problem and that's the studios who have fostered an environment that's become so divisive that it's split fandoms apart, with no signs of reconciliation. Whether you love the new material or not, I think we can all agree that there's been a seismic shift in the way content is made and consumed and it's not for the better. I really miss the days where movies were nuetral ground where we could all set aside our political, religious, or cultural differences and have fun together.
 
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So you mean to tell me that this ISN'T my own private journal where I can spout my vitrilolic and toxic hatred of a thing without response? I'm shook... :lol: I just wanted to give everyone my daily reminded of what a bitter, selfish, hate-filled, racist, sexist, mysogonistic, homophobic pig I am. So consider this your daily dose. BTW everything SUCKS and if you disagree with me so do you! ;)

In all seriousness, the wave of negative responses comes from years of studios and actors/ writers insulting their customers and the media treating the fans as if they are the problem rather than considering the quality of the product Hollywood is making. I constantly see articles online tearing down these franchises, making the claim about how problematic they are and many of them blame the lackluster box office returns on the fans because they're toxic. Pile on a huge number of other fans who bear down on us for speaking our minds and making us feel unwelcome. It's just not the same anymore when talking about movies. I've had long bouts where I won't post a thing in these threads because I'm just repeating myself and I don't have the energy enough to bother. Recently I've gotten involved again, but it's evident that I have to take another long break from this section of the forum. Not because I feel I've done anything wrong, so much as I just feel better when I'm not discussing these topics. How sad is that?

Ultimately I agree with you that environments such as this should be welcome to all viewpoints and no one should feel they can't post a comment, negative or positive, about a movie or tv show. I just feel it's high time that we all acknowledge the real source of the problem and that's the studios who have fostered an environment that's become so divisive that it's split fandoms apart, with no signs of reconciliation. Whether you love the new material or not, I think we can all agree that there's been a seismic shift in the way content is made and consumed and it's not for the better. I really miss the days where movies were nuetral ground where we could all set aside our political, religious, or cultural differences and have fun together.
I mean, ever since movies began people like or dislike them...it's just now we have forums to discuss it. I agree that it's better to discuss the merits of the aspects of the movie rather than the politics..etc. but unless independent film makers find ways to come up with more funds, the studios are always going to be filtered money by those who have an axe to grind, as opposed to a story to tell and let's face it...even an independent film maker can use his/her money to grind an axe as well. As long as there are opinions, there will also be those who take it personally or those who don't. We can't sit here though and legislate when or when not it's prudent to take offense or just have fun with it. I'd like to think "we all" loved Star Wars back in the day, but i'd be naive not to think a lot of people thought it was stupid and there weren't discussions about where people took offense or not. In fact, i remember in high school(I dreally don't mean to get off topic here) when we would be discussing in computer lab in '93 how much Star Wars was better than Star Trek....i think that war is still ongoing...lol, and to me it's fun. It's also funny and sad at the same time to think someone is crying themselves to sleep at night because someone stole their binky in the form of disagreeing with them.

Times have surely changed and i'm with you. I'd rather discuss life relevant topics that actually can impact a person's life for the better...long-term. But, as long as we're on this forum i have an understanding that we are simply talking about Indy 5 which will come and go and likely have no impact on anyones life, nor should it really. No sense in getting upset about someones opinion on it even though all of us are guilty of having opinions good or bad. I, personally, have no problem with anyone on here even though i disagree with them. There were times that it did affect me negatively, not going to lie...you know this. What i found out it wasn't others that i could blame...it was my own heart and response that was the blame. Ultimately, i found healing in not making a mountain out of a mole hill and leaving the forum was a good thing for me. Now, because of that, i come and go as i please...respond where i think i should and try not to waste precious time and not chained to trying to be right. I'm only here right now due to injury and healing. Ultimately, i care more about the people here than my opinion, whether right or wrong, and i think it can be fun in that way too. I met you and others on here...Glad i did. There are also hysterical people on here...uh...eh..umm..Alley...lol. Which some days, i just need a good laugh.
 
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