Indiana Jones 5 officially announced

The million-dollar question is, why does the audience put up with one deus-ex-machina escape but not another? I think 2/3rds of it is how they are feeling about the movie in general.
I think the reason the raft sequence gets a pass while something like the "nuke fridge" doesn't is the perception of plausibility. One could believe that an inflatable raft might fall slowly enough and might land gently enough on a snow packed surface. Now of course, as it's filmed, it wouldn't have worked but with the exact right conditions and a LOT of luck, maybe it could work? It seems plausible even if it's not. With the "nuke fridge", it's a lot harder to imagine any scenario where survival is possible.
 
After a recent Board Meeting they got the idea to retcon the raft sequence for Indy 5 using these, since they already had them at their disposal.

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I meant to add that one too. No he didn't end up with that either. Though none of Coronado's relatives were alive, even when Indy was still River Phoenix.
 
No there are plenty of movies that I've seen that were bad that I've enjoyed for different reasons- the company I was with, the film was hilariously awful (so bad it's good), etc.

I think it looks bad but I know there are people here who think otherwise and I want to know why they feel the way they do. Not to argue with them but to find silver linings. You're welcome to think I'm as irrational as you'd like. :)
At the end of the day, the way I look at it is this way...I dont watch films I love because of other's opinions (good or bad). I watch and enjoy them for myself. No matter what the reviews are or what others say or feel about it. So if I love or hate a film, that's for me alone. I try to avoid discussing with others online though. That just riles me up unnecessarily because people will always argue for both sides. Again, thats just me though. Everyone is different.
 
Idol taken by Belloq
Dimond lost at Nightclub
But...
Cross Of Coronado is put in the museum
I dont recall 100%, but I do think there were outside (and most likely non-canon) stories that mentioned the idol being recovered in the black market a little later and Short Round recovering the lost diamond years later. Again, probably not canon, but I believe some authors tried to address it somewhat in a comic series or something.
 
I dont recall 100%, but I do think there were outside (and most likely non-canon) stories that mentioned the idol being recovered in the black market a little later and Short Round recovering the lost diamond years later. Again, probably not canon, but I believe some authors tried to address it somewhat in a comic series or something.
Yep, Short round found it exactly a year later on the Goonies...in fact, he found a lot of them. lol
 
I meant to add that one too. No he didn't end up with that either. Though none of Coronado's relatives were alive, even when Indy was still River Phoenix.

In an alternative reality, somewhere, River Phoenix didn’t die and is currently playing the part of Indiana Jones—properly set in the 1930’s—and Harrison Ford has retired from the role….
 
I meant to add that one too. No he didn't end up with that either. Though none of Coronado's relatives were alive, even when Indy was still River Phoenix.

No the Cross is not a loss. Indy doesn't collect any of the artifacts for himself, he retrieves them for the museum. Remember the original agreement with the ark "and the museum gets the ark when we are through". He sells the liitle artifacts from South America (good pieces, Marcus") to the museum too.
 
I think the reason the raft sequence gets a pass while something like the "nuke fridge" doesn't is the perception of plausibility. One could believe that an inflatable raft might fall slowly enough and might land gently enough on a snow packed surface. Now of course, as it's filmed, it wouldn't have worked but with the exact right conditions and a LOT of luck, maybe it could work? It seems plausible even if it's not. With the "nuke fridge", it's a lot harder to imagine any scenario where survival is possible.

Yeah I've had that thought. The fridge was fatal for about 3 different reasons, which makes it more of a script-level flaw. The falling raft was more of a filming-stage flaw and those tend to feel more excusable.


The nuked fridge is practically a franchise-ending offense according to the internet. But Tony Stark's little rocket ride out of the terrorists' cave (in theaters the same year)? Oh, that was fine. About 4 minutes in:

 
For the record the raft sequence was totally absurd. The fridge, equally so. Though the fridge was less egregious than most of the other set pieces for Crystal Skull, which shows how low they set the bar with that film. As CopperRevan pointed out the truck going into the water was some cartoon level stupidity, but I don't need to rehash all the flaws of that movie.

Raiders is still the best of the franchise and the greatest action-adventure film ever made. If Indiana Jones has a superpower it's resilience. He just refuses to die and that's why I love him as a character. To quote one of the best lines in the series,

"I'm like a bad penny. I always turn up."
 
Yeah I've had that thought. The fridge was fatal for about 3 different reasons, which makes it more of a script-level flaw. The falling raft was more of a filming-stage flaw and those tend to feel more excusable.


The nuked fridge is practically a franchise-ending offense according to the internet. But Tony Stark's little rocket ride out of the terrorists' cave (in theaters the same year)? Oh, that was fine. About 4 minutes in:



The sand plant was a gripe of mine then, and later too. "inertial dampeners" and all that is a stretch, they should have been pouring him out of that suit quite a bit in those brutal fights getting tossed around. Internal organs and brains don't like massive Gs. Tons of movies are guilty of this for along time though. Characters thrown across rooms against a wall. Shake it off, get back in the fight. LOL
 
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