Grusderk Mask review.

* Speechless * except

$400 for a mask like this? No way - Lee forgot to mention the insides "resemble some Medieval Torture Device."
For years I've consulted many members on the lair on Grusderk's masks and wasn't sure for the money to be paid. It just seems too much.
This guy will have to start offering quality craftmanship for this kind of Price otherwise some new competitor may offer it for lower price.
 
So, going over my records, the mask itself cost me $360 US and 100 bucks for shipping. The total was $460. Guess I feel the need to be fair on my end...knew it was close to 500 bucks overall though ...had to go through months of old emails for this. In doing my research I noticed how quick the responses to my emails were. Sometimes by the minute. It bugs me that I cant even get a response at all these days. Hey ..I'm busy too ...but I have plenty of time to email a friend or browse the Lair. ( i guess the iphone helps)
Ugh ..this whole thing bugs me now, more then ever.

*edit* 100 bucks for shipping? It cost me waaay less to express it to England. WTF?
 
It's funny, I hear all these people saying Grus is planning on providing compensation for this rather hilariously horrible piece of crap, but so far, no ones really said what he has done for them. As deadly as that thing may be, I'm doing horrible at making a base to put the animatronics on so I would settle for taking this thing apart and reworking it entirely, but I don't mean to beg, just offhandedly mentioning that. Any chances you could atleast take pics of the system sans latex? I want to see the differences between it and that one nukero guy from the yahoo link.
 
This guy will have to start offering quality craftmanship for this kind of Price otherwise some new competitor may offer it for lower price.

you trying to drop subtle hints Mike your next project perhaps o_O


Lee great review, thats all i can say. straight to the point. maybe gabe should send these things out with a big red light on it saying open at your own risk..

thankfully i never parted with the stupid amount of money he wanted from for one of these abominations.
 
Dont start pimping your own work/ideas in here guys, you want to do that, make another thred, this is for warning people of the quality you could end up with.

In fact ill go out on a limb, i recon all his masks are extremely thin, probably with the excse of "they need to be flexible".

ITS ******* RUBBER IT WILL STRETCH EASILY ANYWAY!!
 
I think this serves an additional purpose on what to look out for when inspecting the quality of a mask for noobs like me?

I know it wasnt the intent, but I laughed my ass off at certain comments. But on a serious note, a seller shouldnt have to apologise and acknowledge parts of their product are "poor" after a transaction has been completed. Surely they have a duty of care to make sure the product is fit for purpose and above all are SAFE. It actually scared me to read that Lee cut himself on this mask and there was fibreglass all over the place. Lee is a very experienced mask maker as are so many of you guys on here, but im sure if more masks like this circulate with hazards inside, one day some inexperienced kid will put it on and will loose an eye.

I actually feel fortunate now to have dealt withthe guys I have on here who have supplied me with fantastic quality props and great service, im not gonna mention names cause these guys know who they are.
 
Grusderk HAS apologized to several people here, promising them compensation, but as I said before, I haven't heard anyone get anything back yet...
 
Good review mate, the vids on youtube of the finished masks look great, this however shows a bit more of the story.
Can you not just bin the skin and figure out how to repaire the armature and add one of your own masks over it?
 
ok so i had a bit of a rummage about looking at various vids of gabes work. From this VID you can clearly see the latex is as thin as the one lee has and also there is a serious lack of dread holes... so it seems to be common practice that he makes them thin and lacking detail...
 
Good straight to the balls review Lee!
I have made masks and prothestics from latex liquid/foam and helpt train people to make them,...but never ever have i seen anything like that.
It should have been binned ASAP.
I have thrown away reject pieces better than that

You couldn't even fix that to save it.
Granted the ones on youtube look better and members here have had some good/ok masks from the seller/builder but,.. o_O
If i made that,...brrrr what ever it is, i would stick my head in a bucket and fill it with cement :popcorn:
We all have our **** ups but please :sick:

Thanks for the warning mate, here's to hoping that this helps others.
Rant over
 
If your gonna make a comment like this then call me out on it. It dose not bother me. If your not calling me out then I jumped the gun. But your obviously making a reference to what I said sooooo whats up. You havent herd anything yet cause you never officially asked. I dont want to say things half the time cause its really easy to bash someone when they had a bad exp and mine was good. Dont give crap to the people who I'll use the word "like" like him and have had a good exp focus on gabe. You want info from me just ask. Others seem to know how to do this without calling someone out like a kid. Uou'll still probably not hear anything from me cause its my business. All you need to know is I'll be compisated that should be between the buyer and seller only. o_O
Calm down man, I didn't mean to call out anybody about it, i'm just saying that I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about the same thing. I haven't dealt with him personally so I don't really have the right to judge, but just saying, I'm seeing a pattern that irks me a bit. Nothing personal, man. :popcorn:
 
Calm down man, I didn't mean to call out anybody about it, i'm just saying that I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about the same thing. I haven't dealt with him personally so I don't really have the right to judge, but just saying, I'm seeing a pattern that irks me a bit. Nothing personal, man. o_O


If ur seeing a pattern its simply because the guy is a bloody con man and more and more people are finding that out....thats the only pattern u need to know about...
 
FYI.

You should not HAVE to be COMPENSATED for a ***** mask, you should never get a ***** mask, unless you are aware it is a 2nd or 3rd quality pull etc.

in my eyes that means he sends out ***** all the time knowing not many will complain because they are eithr new to this and think that is good quality or they are blinded by the mouth mechanics, how ironic that you could ACTUALLY end up blind by using one.

I would rather let hungry fire ants chew off my testicles than use ANY OF this in ANYTHING i make, the mouth mechanics are not hard to figure out, without using this peice of ****.

I stand by what i said in my initial review final comment.

"If this is what you have to suffer to get a NEARLY moving mouth system, you can stick if squarely up your arse ! "
 
Jason stop talking ***** !

o_O


Surprisingly enough im not in this for the money, if that was the case i would have sold my 1st closed mouth P1 the day i molded it, i refussed to sell it for about a year.

And again my new P1 i will not be selling.

My point is, i do not sculpt of make stuff primarily to make money, dont get me wrong the odd order is nice, but i do not wish to make what it s FUN HOBBY to me, any sort of business.

Having said that, i have a roughed out schematic for a mouth system FOR my new P1, when i eventually get time and money to mold it, i will show the breakdown and how to here on the lair, BUT not until ive done my own mask 1st :popcorn: you can all make your own then.

:sick:
 
Again Raider - no need for a deadbeat list. Topics like this speak volumes.
i understand ,it was just an idea off the top of my head...i really get pissed when i hear about **** like this and i really bugs me that the buyer is pretty much helpless in these situations. i was thinking it would be good way to stop people like this from selling (preying) on other people and the list was a quick reference , because to actually find the threads that adress this would be impossible at best. just my opinion, i know im just a member here , you guys run this thing, just trying to help.
 
Yeah that is a pretty good point you bring up there, lee. Also, always makes me feel a hell of a lot more confident in a seller knowing that he isn't just doing this because he likes it. o_O
 
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