Loki mask: recasting/legality question

[Adiemus]

Hi all. So to start with, I believe some of you are familiar with GoldenArmor/Chaucer44 and how he recasts. Well, I bought a loki mask from him some years ago and just started getting around to painting it. Since the mouth of the mask is a bit wide and un-movie like, I took an attempt at using epoxy to sculpt the mouth some into what it looks like in the movie, which came out pretty decent. I had an idea though. Because GoldenArmor's isn't completely movie accurate, the majority of the masks sold on sites like ebay and etsy are cheap 3d printed ones, and the more accurate ones I bought from some guys in Brazil were a little rough (air bubbles, cracked/missing pieces), I had the motivation to possibly replicate/mold my own mask.

The plan was to use GoldenArmor's loki mask, sculpt the mouth, make a mold of it, and finally make copies and sell them. I love the mask and it pains me that there's no real reliable/accurate source out there. Now comes the title questions: would this be considered recasting even though I made my own modifications to the mask? And if not, what are the laws around this? Would I have to get permission from GoldenArmor first? Would New Line Cinema sue me if I started selling them? I made this post in the spur of the moment and wanted answers from you guys, so I haven't researched much on the legality of it all yet.

 

[Adiemus]

I did just look up one of the first posts on here about recasting, and they stated:
A. Directly recast of original licensed piece or Original fanmade art.
B. Retooled and modified prop over an existing licensed piece or fanmade art.
So I believe if I were to do this, it would be a recast? And with this, there was this guy on Instagram called "loki.mask" who seems to have made their own loki mask. I was searching online and found his website where he made the original mask out of clay: https://douglaspacheco.artstation.com/
So since he made it by hand, then it wouldn't be considered a recast?

And if the above questions are "yes", then the only way I could sell to the public is if I were to make my own mask from scratch? Might have a big art project coming up if that's the case lol

 

[eethan]

yes, the only way that you would sell to the public would be to make your own mask from scratch and cast them.
Althouth it is also a bit ironic to consider recasting a recaster, and even ask for his permission that is a bit of a particular situation in this case. But the reality is that you would actually be continuing to recast the original maker that was already recast by golden armour, and continue to ruin the business of that original person that did their own original work. If that makes it clearer somehow.

 

[Adiemus]

yes, the only way that you would sell to the public would be to make your own mask from scratch and cast them.
Althouth it is also a bit ironic to consider recasting a recaster, and even ask for his permission that is a bit of a particular situation in this case. But the reality is that you would actually be continuing to recast the original maker that was already recast by golden armour, and continue to ruin the business of that original person that did their own original work. If that makes it clearer somehow.

That does lol thank you. The thing about the og person of the mask though is nowhere to be found. I've done A LOT of research on the masks but I never could find one that looked like GoldenArmor's. I think it would still be considered wrong to recast it though I suppose, bunch of hoops to jump through it would seem.

And if I may ask too, even if I make a mask that looks EXACTLY like the original mask, there would be no problem? How would that work? Seems like I'm borderline recasting in a way lol just because it's "mine" and I made it?