GHOSTBUSTERS Pre-Release - film discussion only, no social commentary please!

Not sure what's 'borderline' about it :lol

Neil doesn't appear to actually like anything that wasn't originated in the eighties. Me, I like some stuff from the nineties too...


No, I just like things from the 80s done RIGHT.

sadly, these days, most people don't take the time to find the right person to do the job right. after all, it's just a silly toy property...why bother putting care into it?

Just be thankful that series with the thundercats being a human rock band on modern day earth, that turned thunderian due to the swords call never got off the ground ;o)

It's very simple to win internet praise these days. just do what works. don't change a thing.

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I dunno to me it just looks forgettable no matter which argument you raise,like something that may be hot for about a month and then *poof* gone.

And BTW there's two versions of the trailer on youtube,one says "four scientists" at the beginning and the other says "four friends"-not sure why the differences.

*ETA*

I watched it again and....it STILL reminds me of a bad Ghostbusters offshoot cartoon show :unsure
 
500,000 dislikes. I hope it reaches a million by june. that'll probably be a YT first.
Sony has to be hiring people to like it now to try and catch up ;o)
 
500,000 dislikes. I hope it reaches a million by june. that'll probably be a YT first.
Sony has to be hiring people to like it now to try and catch up ;o)
So much hostility and aggression for a movie. It'll be interesting to see how the box office numbers correlate to the Youtube dislikes. I've heard people mention coded scripts which auto-vote Youtube accounts for dislikes. I wouldn't be shocked. ;o)
 
Yeah, to be honest...I think the youtube likes/dislikes thing is pointless. I don't pay attention to any of that crap. I'll make up my own mind based on the info I have. It's not like 100000 youtube votes one way or the other will make my opinion more or less valid.
 
Yeah, to be honest...I think the youtube likes/dislikes thing is pointless. I don't pay attention to any of that crap. I'll make up my own mind based on the info I have. It's not like 100000 youtube votes one way or the other will make my opinion more or less valid.

true, but it's just nice to see fans come out in support of trashing this thing.

although I think most of it is them re posting comments that sony deleted on a daily basis.
there are people who hate this thing even more than me ;o)

even I have more to do in life than that, but not by much ;o)
 
true, but it's just nice to see fans come out in support of trashing this thing.

although I think most of it is them re posting comments that sony deleted on a daily basis.
there are people who hate this thing even more than me ;o)

even I have more to do in life than that, but not by much ;o)

Shame you can only dislike once :p
 
Your sanity will be called into question by supporters if you dare to think about it for more than a second ;o).
Discussing a dislike of the film doesn't cause people to question your sanity. However, trying to lead an over-the-top personal hate attack crusade against it every step of the way sure doesn't help your cause. ;o)
 
Discussing a dislike of the film doesn't cause people to question your sanity. However, trying to lead an over-the-top personal hate attack crusade against it every step of the way sure doesn't help your cause. ;o)

You know what the funny thing is that I dont understand? That its not ok to hate something now a days, especially when its something from your childhood that you hold dear. How is it over the top? Granted Im coming into the discussion very late, but yeah, this iteration of the Turtles looks like trash. Who is this film made for? Considering that its going on nostalgia alone, why make it so much different, if they wanted it to be that different, just make something else? Its Hollywood, so predictable its ridiculous. The reason they are using Michael Bay to produce, is because of what he did with Transformers. As a fan of the cartoon/toys from the 80's, they were abysmal interpretations of the characters. But of course, they made a ton of money. The new turtles are abominations and nothing about the first one was enjoyable, as a fan. Dont kids now a days have something of their own that they would rather see than something from the 80's? Im generally asking, I dont know what kids are into these days considering I dont have any. I think NeilT has a right to say how much he hates this movie. They are bastardizing something that he cares about. I for one am on the hate train, unfortunately the only thing I can do is not see it in theaters.
 
You know what the funny thing is that I dont understand? That its not ok to hate something now a days, especially when its something from your childhood that you hold dear. How is it over the top? Granted Im coming into the discussion very late, but yeah, this iteration of the Turtles looks like trash. Who is this film made for? Considering that its going on nostalgia alone, why make it so much different, if they wanted it to be that different, just make something else? Its Hollywood, so predictable its ridiculous. The reason they are using Michael Bay to produce, is because of what he did with Transformers. As a fan of the cartoon/toys from the 80's, they were abysmal interpretations of the characters. But of course, they made a ton of money. The new turtles are abominations and nothing about the first one was enjoyable, as a fan. Dont kids now a days have something of their own that they would rather see than something from the 80's? Im generally asking, I dont know what kids are into these days considering I dont have any. I think NeilT has a right to say how much he hates this movie. They are bastardizing something that he cares about. I for one am on the hate train, unfortunately the only thing I can do is not see it in theaters.
I think you're in the wrong thread, mate! :lol This is Ghostbusters, not TMNT.

Like I said, I'm all for some good discussion from both sides, but Neil's constant barrage of negativity is way over the top. Go back and read through a few pages of this thread. It's pretty much constant-- to the point where he attacks fan documentaries that interviewed Feig. He attacks on every little snippet of info to leak out on the reboot, right down to Ivan Reitman walking around the Sony lot in a bad mood. Seriously.

I get passion, but that's over the top. True, it's okay to hate something. It's also okay to call out ridiculous behavior that does nothing but perpetuates the fanboy stereotype.

Great article, Jetta! Thanks for posting. I'm hit/miss on McCarthy. My girlfriend and I watched SPY the other night and it was absolutely hilarious. I avoided watching it for a long time due to the trailer.
 
You know what the funny thing is that I dont understand? That its not ok to hate something now a days, especially when its something from your childhood that you hold dear. How is it over the top? .

First off, let me preface by saying, not applying this to anyone here...but,

I see it as two things.

1- Thanks to FB culture being genuinely negative and hateful, it's driven most people to have an aversion to folks who have a negative outlook on things. whether the negative outlook is justified or not They automatically think back to those super crazies they hate seeing all the time online, and the positive defense kicks in. this leads to irrational positiveness.


2)they work in Hollywood and CAN'T bash it no matter how much they might want to online. every single person in hollywood I loosely know online supports this thing, and I have to ask why. some I truly believe are super fans and would love it no matter how it turned out just so long as it had a no ghost logo slapped on it. Especially fans I know in the turtle verse. some either have worked with the property, or hope to one day and are no doubt toting the company line in public. others, genuinely not so sure.


We've all been driven crazy due to the change in online culture these days. either from watching what we say, so as not to set someone off (mentioning america when bringing up superman, for instance.. I mean, come on...).....or just being tired of seeing lots of negativity online...thankfully, this is where the ignore button comes in handy.


But this one GD little movie...my god. I've honestly never seen anything like it. there is no middle road with this thing. you either love it, or hate it. folks who hate it will trash it till the day they die, and folks who love it will irrationally think up ways to defend it despite better logic. Again, I bring up someone making a robin williams suicide joke trying to guess why this movie is a reboot and not a continuation.


Nothing will please me more than to see this thing make less than two million opening weekend. if not, I'll be sadly dissapointed, but, I'll move on to the next disaster. Even though it's super fun to bash this thing till the cows come home, because it so rightfully deserves every ounce of it...it's not a world ending scenario. and that is what I will continue to do till the day it comes out.


Hey, it's not much of one, but it's a living.
;o)
 
I'd like to see someone test the theory of 'mcarthy plays the same roles'.

Try and edit together all of her big budget 'hit's together into one 10 minute clip. try and find scenes that merge together, plot wise.
If you can't tell they are all different movies, because she acts the same, the critics are right.


Mcarthy is no Rossanne, or John Goodman. or John candy. something about her has always come off as unlikable for some reason.
Just like Kelly Rippa. I always imagined Kelly Rippa couldn't wait to get the old man smell out of the studio so she could claim it as her own ;o).
 
Thanks to FB culture being genuinely negative and hateful, it's driven most people to have an aversion to folks who have a negative outlook on things. whether the negative outlook is justified or not They automatically think back to those super crazies they hate seeing all the time online, and the positive defense kicks in. this leads to irrational positiveness.
"Positive defense." Good description there. Personally, I'm not saying whether the GB reboot is going to be great or not. I'm holding off until I see it. At this point, I think it looks fun. I approached it knowing it wasn't going to be my dream GB film, it wasn't going to be a sequel, there would probably be some things I don't like. I'm judging it on it's own merits, not the intentions of the director, not the cast, not the merch. In a nutshell, I'm Switzerland on it. It could very well be horrible.

However, you mention "super crazies". I don't mean this as a personal attack, but when I read your posts on this thread needlessly attacking every single news snippet, that's exactly the thought I have in my head. What seems to be a small batch of bad apple fans are giving GB fans a very bad image. What does Ivan Reitman moping around the Sony lot have to do with the quality of the reboot? What do early private Sony emails establishing individual roles have to do with the quality of the reboot?

they work in Hollywood and CAN'T bash it no matter how much they might want to online. every single person in hollywood I loosely know online supports this thing, and I have to ask why. some I truly believe are super fans and would love it no matter how it turned out just so long as it had a no ghost logo slapped on it.
Perhaps they're genuinely excited to see the movie? I consider myself a super fan, but that doesn't mean the franchise is free of fault in my eyes. I thought the 2009 video game was a bit of a bore. I'm not a fan of EGB. Most of the merch isn't for me. However, I think the reboot looks fun. The question I'm wondering is WHY can't your industry acquaintances anticipate the reboot without there being some grand conspiracy? I've seen several industry friends call out Sony on both the good and the bad.

there is no middle road with this thing. you either love it, or hate it. folks who hate it will trash it till the day they die, and folks who love it will irrationally think up ways to defend it despite better logic.
DING DING, middle of the road right here. I'm not defending anything other than irrational hate. I know plenty of people that like certain things, dislike certain things, and are plenty verbal about it. Not jumping to a staunch conclusion and shoving it down people's throats is an a-ok thing in my book. ;o)

Nothing will please me more than to see this thing make less than two million opening weekend. if not, I'll be sadly dissapointed, but, I'll move on to the next disaster.
Why would the misfortune of others make you happy? Why not move on to something you're positive about? Focusing on things you hate can't be healthy. ;o)
 
Personally, I applaud @NeilT for doing what I rather wish I'd done for JJ-Trek and Bayformers -- point out everything wrong with their approaches over and over and loudly in the hopes that each time someone who hadn't seen it last time would this time and stop and think about it and maybe, just maybe, realize I'm right. I'm not as passionate about Ghostbusters as I am about Star Trek, Star Wars, and Transformers. I've done a lot of after-the-fact grumbling, but at the time I was willing to "give them a chance". Now, as Solo4114 has said elsewhere, I'm done "giving them a chance". When I am partway through the first teaser and go "wait... what the hell?", something's wrong there. When I have behind-the-scenes info about the approach the filmmakers have for the project that runs utterly counter to the spirit of the original, that needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

That said, @NeilT, I do think you reach from time to time, an dit hurts your credibility. If you confine your vitriol to the actual facts around the film and not cast that onto peripherally-related things, it makes it easier to take your main points seriously. I agree Melissa McCarthy seems to be a terrific person, but I find her a pale imitation of better comedians -- of both genders -- who have come before. And I can't help but wonder if some of her cousin's crazy runs in the family. I think Leslie Jones is capable of much more than the trope she plays in every outing of hers I've seen, and I want her to impress me with her range, dammit. And I just feel bad for everyone else in this film. No need for ad-hominem attacks on any of them. I feel bad for Paul that he got harangued into doing a film he didn't want to do and now he's getting roasted for it. I feel bad for Sony for having been under bad leadership for a while there. They're doing the right thing with Spider-Man, now. I honestly don't know if I want to push them to release this film or vault it. There are arguments to be made either way.

But the further out we get from that core, the less anger is warranted. Cast members visiting kids? Cool. People getting to visit the set? Cool. Toy companies not getting it, as far as merchandising? Par for the course, currently. Best thing I think we as fans could do is shout loudly enough to Reitman, Aykroyd, and Hudson that we support them and their original aims and to not feel we've abandoned them just because of this. That they should wash their hands of this mistake, take a deep breath, and make the movie they should have made, with our hearty support. Loudly enough that Sony hears and, more importantly, listens. The drop-off of Fant-four-stic and Batman, featuring Superman: Rush to Justice should have them worried. I'd like to see Feigbusters end up limping around the dregs of Rotten Tomatoes in their company, and Sony lay the blame right at Pascal's feet.

--Jonah
 
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Oh my god how embarrassing. I had multiple threads open and I must have switched them and goofed up and didnt even realize. Sorry about that! Ill just shut up now :lol

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I think you're in the wrong thread, mate! :lol This is Ghostbusters, not TMNT.

Like I said, I'm all for some good discussion from both sides, but Neil's constant barrage of negativity is way over the top. Go back and read through a few pages of this thread. It's pretty much constant-- to the point where he attacks fan documentaries that interviewed Feig. He attacks on every little snippet of info to leak out on the reboot, right down to Ivan Reitman walking around the Sony lot in a bad mood. Seriously.

I get passion, but that's over the top. True, it's okay to hate something. It's also okay to call out ridiculous behavior that does nothing but perpetuates the fanboy stereotype.


Great article, Jetta! Thanks for posting. I'm hit/miss on McCarthy. My girlfriend and I watched SPY the other night and it was absolutely hilarious. I avoided watching it for a long time due to the trailer.

I feel like a moron, youre totally right, I meant to post that in the TMNT thread, and I royally messed it up, sincerest apologies!
 
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