GHOSTBUSTERS Pre-Release - film discussion only, no social commentary please!

[Solo4114]

Well, except that I don't even know that we have a standard from which to deviate. That's kinda my point on the "All ideas sound stupid at first." Feig's story points, again, in and of themselves, are fine. Ok, they work out of an old Chinese restaurant. Peter Dinklage is an evil ghost who came back after being executed, and who commands slime rain that can possess people. There's a ghost T-Rex.

The stupid part isn't the core ideas themselves. Any of those things could work in an in-continuity sequel just fine. The stupid part is in the execution. The "Alright, you crazy white people!" lines, or the "You mean because I'm a woman?" "No, I mean because you look like a sanitation worker" line, or the in-jokes and references to the original film when you said you wanted to get away from the original and be free to make your own original movie.

Really, though, the stupid part is in believing you could capture lightning in a bottle again the way you did in 1984. You can't. It won't happen.

 

[KrangPrime]

I think the main problem is that is driving everyone insane is that fact that this is a REBOOT...

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[Westies14]

The early 80s in retrospect seem like a time of lightning everywhere for directors to just bottle up. You're at an automatic disadvantage by making a film outside of the Amblin golden era...

 

[LrdSatyr8]

Honestly, they could if they just keep it in the same universe. Look at how much more popular Terminator 2 was to the original that was filmed 20 years earlier? It can be done, it just takes a little more work on the part of the writers to make it more believable! If they stick to what is already canon, they really don't have to retell the origin of the Ghostbusters at all. Keep the proton packs and throwers. Keep the traps. Put some junk on top of a vehicle and paint it red and white and then send out a team to bust some ghosts. Not that hard! Hell they could even bring Sam Hain... or do a crossover and bring Freddy Kruger into the mix! It's a comedy... don't matter. But you don't have to REMAKE it... that's the main point! I don't care what elements they put into the movie... they can bring in a whole cast of kids... women... talking grizzley bears... don't matter... they could make all the stupid jokes they want, don't matter... hell they could even bring in Cthulu... don't MATTER just as long as they don't change the core elements! Core elements ARE what made Ghostbusters so popular in the first place... PROTON PACKS, GHOST TRAPS, PKE METERS, AND STUPID LOOKING CAR WITH CRAZY CRAP BOLTED TO IT, A GROUP OF WHATEVER THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING, MAKING STUFF UP AS THEY GO, CATCH GHOSTS NOW AND THEN, AND SAVE THE WORLD FROM SOME CATASTROPY! You change any one of those elements and you've got a waste of time and money... Why is that so hard for some people to understand??

 

[Westies14]

Honestly, they could if they just keep it in the same universe. Look at how much more popular Terminator 2 was to the original that was filmed 20 years earlier? It can be done, it just takes a little more work on the part of the writers to make it more believable! If they stick to what is already canon, they really don't have to retell the origin of the Ghostbusters at all. Keep the proton packs and throwers. Keep the traps. Put some junk on top of a vehicle and paint it red and white and then send out a team to bust some ghosts. Not that hard! Hell they could even bring Sam Hain... or do a crossover and bring Freddy Kruger into the mix! It's a comedy... don't matter. But you don't have to REMAKE it... that's the main point! I don't care what elements they put into the movie... they can bring in a whole cast of kids... women... talking grizzley bears... don't matter... they could make all the stupid jokes they want, don't matter... hell they could even bring in Cthulu... don't MATTER just as long as they don't change the core elements! Core elements ARE what made Ghostbusters so popular in the first place... PROTON PACKS, GHOST TRAPS, PKE METERS, AND STUPID LOOKING CAR WITH CRAZY CRAP BOLTED TO IT, A GROUP OF WHATEVER THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING, MAKING STUFF UP AS THEY GO, CATCH GHOSTS NOW AND THEN, AND SAVE THE WORLD FROM SOME CATASTROPY! You change any one of those elements and you've got a waste of time and money... Why is that so hard for some people to understand??

FYI, Ghostbusters and Terminator were both released in 1984. GB2 came five years later, in 1989, and T2 just two years after that in 1991.

 

[LrdSatyr8]

Really? Did that really have to be said?? I mean comon now... did that have any real bearing on the point I was trying to make? No! Is that what it all boils down to these days? Can't argue so let's tear it apart? Comon people!

 

[Westies14]

Sorry man, I can see how you're taking that comment and I truly didn't intend for that. I thought it was well established that I'm in full agreement with your main point! No wish to argue at all. I do think it's difficult to recapture the past though, and it's hard to think of an example where someone actually resumed a story decades later and had it work, and commenting on the gap between Terminator and its one quality sequel was really meant to be an aside. I have high hopes for the new Star Wars and for Showtime's Twin Peaks revival, but neither is a proven success yet (and some people seem to think there have been SW movies since ROTJ?).

 

[Michael Bergeron]

I agree. As I've said many times same universe would solve MANY issues and could be done with no cameos from the original cast. Could be it's own thing and not be seen as a replacement.

Original guys are gone, either disappeared, dead, or just moved away. Ray's niece gets the firehouse (and maybe even sells it if they don't want the same place) and starts her own all female team. Ghost butt kicking ensues.

 

[LrdSatyr8]

No prob W... The only thing I can hope for now is the release of the movie and discover that all these rumors of it being a remake are false, but I'm sure it's a complete and total longshot, but there's always that thought in the back of my mind that holds out a glimmer of hope!

 

[KrangPrime]

apparently the theme song has been recorded. why do I suspect a heavy metal version? I'm almost willing to bet that it'll 'premier' at that metal concert bust where the band comes up with it on the spot as they make the bust.

 

[Solo4114]

Won't be heavy metal. I'd expect hiphop, myself. Easier to market to the masses.

 

[KrangPrime]

Won't be heavy metal. I'd expect hiphop, myself. Easier to market to the masses.

true. just so long as it's at least palatable. that horrid thing they got to represent the turtles movie by a no name rapper no ones ever heard of was un listenable.

 

[dbalschi]

true. just so long as it's at least palatable. that horrid thing they got to represent the turtles movie by a no name rapper no ones ever heard of was un listenable.

Just because you don't know who juicy J and Wiz Khalifa are doesn't make them no names. I don't like the song either but they are both popular artists.

 

[Solo4114]

Yeah, I don't know their music, but I've at least heard of Wiz Khalifa. Didn't he just get arrested for riding a hoverboard in an airport or something?

 

[Riceball]

I agree. As I've said many times same universe would solve MANY issues and could be done with no cameos from the original cast. Could be it's own thing and not be seen as a replacement.

Original guys are gone, either disappeared, dead, or just moved away. Ray's niece gets the firehouse (and maybe even sells it if they don't want the same place) and starts her own all female team. Ghost butt kicking ensues.

I think that's the problem with most Hollywood studio execs, for one, they're not creative people and like to deal in numbers and in terms of black and white, if they can't quantify it, they don't like it. The second thing, which is related to the first, is that they don't understand fans and a fan base, they don't understand the attachment fans have to a particular IP and just see it as something that makes money. Because of that, they don't understand that sometimes appeasing the fans by throwing them a bone can go a long way to appease the fans and probably even make for a better product/film. They don't seem to realize that appealing/appeasing that 1% (or whatever) of the audience that really cares about the IP doesn't really cost them anything and won't hurt the final product because the majority of audiences won't even notice or care but would, quite likely, make for a better film.

 

[LrdSatyr8]

apparently the theme song has been recorded. why do I suspect a heavy metal version? I'm almost willing to bet that it'll 'premier' at that metal concert bust where the band comes up with it on the spot as they make the bust.

It will probably be some kind of dumb rap song by an up and coming unknown artist who the producer's kid really loves but no one has really heard before because their only presence is on Youtube or some such nonsense! I think if they get Danny Elfman to do the sound track they might be alright... maybe throw some 80's classic rock or pop songs in there for fun... I remember when the GB sound track came out and I got it and there was a Journey song on there... I'm like when was Journey even in the movie... so I sat back down and watched and there's like a 5 second scene where one of the moving guys is listening to them on headphones while taking their stuff out of the lab! Couldn't believe that actually made it onto the sound track, but was funny none the less! I'm just hoping Kanye West isn't doing anything for it!

 

[KrangPrime]

It will probably be some kind of dumb rap song by an up and coming unknown artist who the producer's kid really loves but no one has really heard before because their only presence is on Youtube or some such nonsense! I think if they get Danny Elfman to do the sound track they might be alright... maybe throw some 80's classic rock or pop songs in there for fun... I remember when the GB sound track came out and I got it and there was a Journey song on there... I'm like when was Journey even in the movie... so I sat back down and watched and there's like a 5 second scene where one of the moving guys is listening to them on headphones while taking their stuff out of the lab! Couldn't believe that actually made it onto the sound track, but was funny none the less! I'm just hoping Kanye West isn't doing anything for it!

yeah, it took me a while to notice that as well. it's such an obscure five second thing, that it it almost HAD to be an in joke thrown in by someone. otherwise, why even have it in there and heard over the headphones so clearly?

 

[Betamin]

The song will probably be rap, have very little in the lyrics to do with the actual movie, and be something like this....

Ghostbusters, mu'a frakker
you better call
or the ghost gonna getchu
you gonna fall
drinkin' a beer
it's cold and tall
Grannie's getin' chilly
better grab a shawl
I'm movin' today
better ring U-Haul
Hangin' a picture
right on the wall
Kids! go outside
and play some ball!
Watch the weather,
gonna be a squall
oh by the way,
Who you gonna call?
Word.

 

[LrdSatyr8]

The song will probably be rap, have very little in the lyrics to do with the actual movie, and be something like this....

Ghostbusters, mu'a frakker
you better call
or the ghost gonna getchu
you gonna fall
drinkin' a beer
it's cold and tall
Grannie's getin' chilly
better grab a shawl
I'm movin' today
better ring U-Haul
Hangin' a picture
right on the wall
Kids! go outside
and play some ball!
Watch the weather,
gonna be a squall
oh by the way,
Who you gonna call?
Word.

Better copyright that quick or Robin Thicke and JayZ will end up stealing it!

 

[KrangPrime]

FeigBusters in NYC. I absolutely refuse to call this ghostbusters.....it's feigs brain child through and through...


Cute Picture at least, neat slimer puppet... but god is that car fugly.

a different shot of the motorcycle