Fight Club Tyler Durden T-shirts?

[Danman]

Wow. So tom was right. He did have his jacket replicated to the exact details of the xmart jacket. Except for the collar and pocket flaps.

 

[Danman]

Two things. Either they removed the tags and logos so no one could known its a Jal and think it's one of a kind or logan replicated this jacket exactly. Either way, I'd love to know if the screen used had felt underneath

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I'd go with they removed the logos

 

[Danman]

Hey smirk, were you able to figure out brands of any of the other wardrobe? Particularly the red pants?

 

[Soulinertia]

That jacket looks truly vintage. My money is on that it is the original jacket Kaplan found in the boutique shop and not made by JAL. It looks more than 15yrs old and even more distressed then the screen used jacket currently on display in Phoenix. Judging from your photos and comparing with some of my vintage leather jackets, much of this appears to be natural wear. I'm sure it's possible they did add paint and more distressing to it to get the look they were going for, then commissioned JAL to make a couple replicas based off this design. I can't recall any scenes in the movie or in any of the photo shoots where he is wearing the jacket and we can't see the flaps. In every image I've seen of Pitt wearing the jacket, it has the straight JAL pocket flaps, not these curved western style ones. That doesn't take anything away from it though. It's an incredibly cool jacket and a real piece of art!

 

[Soulinertia]

There is no doubt in my mind this jacket has been in the hands of Kaplan, Logan and Pitt, It's just not the jacket we see in the movie.

 

[Danman]

Thanks soul. For once someone agrees with me on this. I mean. The distressing is a masterpiece. Even tom metioned to me that it look vintage and if they did that distressing as a custom job then they did amazing work. Even the rust color is exactly like the vintage rust color used in the 70's. Again I'm not taking anything away from logan

 

[Danman]

If it is a logan job and they distressed it for the film then they went to a great deal of trouble to do it. The only thing is that other then the collar and the pocket flaps, it's completely identical to Logan's creation and I've been searching for that xmart jacket online since 2001 and I've only come across jacket with a few of the same details but never anything identical. The western pockets, the upper back western stitching you see every now and then but not all of those details together.

 

[Danman]

I know soul, iamjwpc, and blacksugar ( true collectors )can give their opinions on whether or not they think a vintage jacket can go unfound for almost 20yrs with so many people searching for it or something similar. The exact leather jacket brand that Stallone wore in rocky 1 I found during a random search for a car coat on eBay. Granted, I'm sure not even half the amount of people were searching for this jacket or it wasn't nearly as recognizable but it's still a vintage jacket from a film made in 1976. No one has ever found the brand of the 1940's snake plissken jacket and many have searched for it

 

[AJRand]

Two things. Either they removed the tags and logos so no one could known its a Jal and think it's one of a kind or logan replicated this jacket exactly. Either way, I'd love to know if the screen used had felt underneath

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I'd go with they removed the logos

Its not a JAL. You could send him the pics and ask. I remember JAL said for a movie girl with dragon tattoo that they brought him a jacket they wanted replicated. Turnes out it was his jacket someone had removed the tags.

I am pretty sure this jacket was not made by JAL. He stated all the jackets still had his logo and he has the patterns cause he kept them. Remember he even kept the original fitting jackets for Brad Pitt so you could get jackets in his measurements exactly like the movie.

Someone want to send the pics to JAL to confirm? I bet it is not his.

 

[AJRand]

In fact, the jackets owned by Fox still have them. So if this jacket went from Fox to X mart it would of been Xmart that removed them. But that couldnt be the case because he didnt know who JAL was until he was discovered and he thought he had a unique piece.

And if Fox's other jackets all have the logo it means this wasnt a JAL.

 

[Danman]

I thought you and smirk had asked logan of the jacket was his and he said yes. It has two locations where tags had been removed. Probably done to keep the creators identity a secret so it can not be searched out

 

[AJRand]

I never asked if it was his and I didnt think Rupert (Smirking) did either.

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And I doubt that is the case JAL made it a point to keep his names on the jackets because he wanted to be known.

 

[Danman]

Smirk had posted earlier that logan made it.

Hi Guys. I spoke to Jonathan about the jacket tonight, whether it was a vintage find or made by him, this is what he had to say
...."I did get a few samples of vintage jackets to make the original, from Michaels specs. Also I had paint mixed and made to reduce the brightness of the original leather but it didn't adhere to the skin; so I applied the paint to the entire exterior of that coat daily for a good week at least while the movie was filmed in long beach. I remember being so through with the daily painting I gave them the paint to do it on set. I gave them at least a half gallon of the paint. For them to take over...That is my recollection. You should be able to peel the paint off the original"

So there you go, an original creation, based on selected vintage jackets. Dan, they were probably Reed's like you said a long time ago. They're the jackets that look most like it.

Night all.

 

[Danman]

Here u go

Dan, I sent JAL the pictures Tom sent us and he confirmed that he did make that jacket. But since it wasn't screen used it probably wasn't painted. The jacket on display will be. But why would Jonathan remember what colour it was? I can't remember fine details from 1998, as I'm sure you can't either. The leather was probably specifically dyed that colour because that's the colour Kaplan wanted the costume, but at some later stage it was painted darker or lighter or a different shade for the camera. The standard colour the JAL comes in is pretty close for an every day jacket.

 

[Danman]

Aj, I didn't imply that logan removed the tags. I said that someone else would've ripped off the tags. Also, i have worked as an extra on many films and if the costume is something created for the film, it generally doesn't have any official brand logos. We'll never know if the jacket you saw at the exhibit has the logan tags because it's only been seen on manaquins. Also, Aj, at one point you were arguing that logan was the designer and manufacturer of the jacket. If this jacket is a true vintage, then he just replicated a vintage piece for the costume department. Now considering he has designed many jackets for many films, it would be weird that they'd hire a renowned jacket designer to simply replicate a vintage piece. But then again, it's Hollywood and they love spend money. The simple question you guys can ask is if logan was the true designer of this jacket in which the details were put together from his and kaplan's mind and they created a one of a kind unique design or if he just replicated a jacket they gave him

 

[AJRand]

Jal has stated he is the creator. He was shown a bunch of different jackets and put them together to create what we have now. I believe he made this point last week when I saw him. I could be wrong as I am remembering a face to face conversation but I believe he stated that.

The thing about this xmart jacket is there is something odd about it:

1) Does JAL have the pattern? He keeps all the patterns of jackets he created so he should have this.

2) why is this jacket different? Because I thought when I spoke to Jal he said he created only one jacket.

3) Maybe JAL said this jacket was his but maybe it is simply a really well done replica based off the screen used jacket? And JAL didnt look at the pockets and such? Imo we should ask him and point out the different pockets and ask why. There is something off about all this.

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Also Soul's post about it looking vintage and way older than the other jackets is odd too. And I have seem the screen used too. This one aging looks real and not artificial like it is over 30 years old.

 

[smirkingrevenge]

It was made by Jonathan. The buttons and the lining are the same as mine and it has a label inside that was removed. It is NOT an original old vintage jacket. Jonathan said that he was brought samples, but not this jacket to duplicate. We'll know by the end of July because that's when x-mart is taking it to Jonathan.

Dan i didn't ask brands I'm afraid. He may not of told me anyway. I could ask him though, not a problem. But he may not remember or I might have to wait until he digs them out.

 

[Danman]

Cool. Thanks smirk.

 

[smirkingrevenge]

In fact, the jackets owned by Fox still have them. So if this jacket went from Fox to X mart it would of been Xmart that removed them. But that couldnt be the case because he didnt know who JAL was until he was discovered and he thought he had a unique piece.

And if Fox's other jackets all have the logo it means this wasnt a JAL.

X-mart is the 3rd owner of this jacket. Labels may have been removed after auction to keep it unique or stir up more interest make it look one of a kind. X-Mart told me there was a massive auction for fight club costumes in 2001 and no one cared. The fur coat was $300!!!!!!! So this jacket probably didn't cost that much more than that. And if it was known as a JAL they might have felt it would have devalued it and made it less rare, not the case, but 12 years ago it would have been different.

 

[Danman]

Wow lmao. $300!